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Swadq: I'm afraid I don't know,
that's not
the sort of bot I run :p I hope someone else can help you
frankenmint: because
this looks like its one bot
that works across several markets I was going
to spend
time
to build my own bot from scratch
that only uses cryptsy
frankenmint: like if
the market goes sideways
then use arbitrage otherwise play swing
trades
frankenmint: is
there a recognized rule of
thumb for switching a strategy
frankenmint: and I was going
to change out gox for something like coinmkt or cryptsy
jurov: also,
there's
that interesting difference between GLBSE and MPEx
bitcoingirl: its just not fair for
the sec
to charge voorhees with offering securities before offering any guidance
benkay: wait hang on i
thought
the Shavers case established
that
they don't care if it's money or not raising funds is raising funds
benkay: Trendon Shavers/Pirateat40/Bitcoin Savings and
Trust ring a bell, bitcoingirl ?
benkay: kinda goes cross-grain
to
the Shavers case.
bitcoingirl: this is my conclusion: "In order for
the SEC
to consider raising bitcoin a securities offering,
they would have
to consider bitcoin as ‘money,' which
they haven't"
benkay: or, whatever legal docs
the SEC pooped out
benkay: bitcoingirl: have you read
the indictments
too?
bitcoingirl: i was just
trying
to get some information on
the voorhees case. very interesting subject.
benkay: i'm sure we'll see it in
the next 'this week in bitcoin' from what is it - Forbes, bitcoingirl?
fluffypony: "Whats Dannys real name? is it really Daniel Brewster or what? I hv investors who want
to buy
the business how do i get hold of him?"
assbot: Neo & Bee
talk (spam free
thread)
jurov: bitcoingirl, mind sharing
the conclusion?
bitcoingirl: thanks. i
think I'm finished here for now.
peterl: you could use a btc miner
to heat your house?
gribble: You rated user frankenmint on Sat Jun 7 08:49:37 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied
these additional notes: OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod.
jurov: if
there is curl for dos, just do
jurov: because gpg does not know how
to fetch
http links?
dignork: frankenmint: you don't have
to, on unix you can run "gpg -d", and paste
the message into stdin
frankenmint: why couldnt i simply pass on
the link directly
to
the cli
frankenmint: not knowing
that I need
to save
the link into a file
jurov: decrypt
that file with gpg
jurov: download
the challenge link into a file
frankenmint: i have gpg and i could register but I can't figure out
the proper usage with
the challenge link
frankenmint: how do I decrypt
the challenge question in dos?
Apocalyptic: pankkake, I
think I saw Enky point out
that hitbtc is faking volume
davout: pankkake: i'm
told sometimes
the hitbtc orderbook empties all of a sudden,
the mm who whas
telling me
that assumes it's
their own bot
that sometimes goes offline
pankkake: neither bc or kraken publish monthly volume
themselves :/
davout: there might business models for wallets, but
trying
to do everything is not
the smartest way
benkay: also (and correct me if i'm wrong davout) but if a user ever wants
to sell btc via paymium, even if not withdrawing cash,
they have
to have a french bank account.
benkay: learned your lesson on
that one? ;)
davout: i don't know about kraken, but
the paymium approach is
that we skip
the issue entirely, we verify everyone, if people were only depositing and withdrawing btc
they could do it anonymously, but we don't really want
that kind of users since we make no money being a wallet
benkay: naively, "why do i have
to show docs if i'm just showing up with btc and leaving with btc", but i get it.
benkay: i suppose it would have
to be,
to work with
the paymium model.
benkay: p.
typical. is
this
true of btc accounts as well?
davout: the next step being, "oh wait, now you have money with us, let's start asking questions
to let you move it out"
benkay: pankkake: what was
the rejection rationale?
pankkake: but you give
them your name!! it must be
true :)
davout: that's
the way i see it, look at
their verification
tiers,
there's no such
thing in europe where you can start moving funds without being identified
pankkake: they're verification was a joke last
time I
tried. didn't even have
to upload documents for first levels
benkay: davout: implying
they're skimping?
davout: yup,
they're blessed with
this situation where
they have a financial entity backing
them, but lets
them do
the kyc diligences
themselves
pankkake: yes,
the have more
than bitcoin-central usually
benkay: but, pankkake,
they do seem
to have some volume on
the eur side
pankkake: there is
to btcusd for bitcoincentral, so gribble invents it. however,
there is for kraken, which doesn't see much action
davout: ah,
the usd one i guess :)
gribble: Kraken BTCEUR
ticker | Best bid: 479.65001, Best ask: 480.22868, Bid-ask spread: 0.57867, Last
trade: 480.36999, 24 hour volume: 190.24285332, 24 hour low: 478.05478, 24 hour high: 482.5, 24 hour vwap: 480.49926
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR
ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last
trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635
davout: "24 hour volume: 0.98730776" <<<
that can't be kraken's eur volume
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR
ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last
trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 655.54615, Best ask: 667.14256357, Bid-ask spread: 11.59641, Last
trade: 667.14256357, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 654.864, 24 hour high: 670.55345, 24 hour vwap: 661.679544831
gribble: Kraken BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 646.45777, Best ask: 656.43773, Bid-ask spread: 9.97996, Last
trade: 646.54153, 24 hour volume: 0.98730776, 24 hour low: 646.001, 24 hour high: 659.8, 24 hour vwap: 655.83189
davout: yea,
they're lucky fidor
took
them :-)
benkay: the best part about kraken is
the header on
their header
benkay: when i spoke
to ms. choi last she indicated
that was
the plan. granted,
that was forever ago and we've not kept up.
davout: payward
tried
to get msb licensed in lots of states?
davout: "i wonder how many millions of US were burnt
to discover
that one cannot do msb + btc in
the us." <<< is
there any entity who actually
tried
to get
the license in all states ?
benkay: nobody's
tried
the Paymium approach in
the states, afaik.
davout: "he said he couldn't get a bank account... as if it was out of his control" <<< actually, it wouldn't really surprise me if
this was
true
benkay: i wonder how many millions of US were burnt
to discover
that one cannot do msb + btc in
the us.
bitcoingirl: i do - but he is saying
that it wasn't his fault
tradehill went under bc he couldn't get a bank account
benkay: and coinbase will even refund your "get fucked"
trades if you complain loudly enough on reddit/twitter/bitcointalk
benkay: i've even
talked
to people who made money on cryptostocks, GLBSE, bitcoinbourse (okay maybe not bourse), but you get
the point.
benkay: and i've
talked
to people who got
their money out of BCS&T - what of it?
benkay: you've
taken a sample.
bitcoingirl: ive spoken with people
that got
their bitcoins back
jurov: after
the first incarnation of
tradehill closed, deposited bitcoins were never seen again
benkay: (feel free
to omit
the +, bitcoingirl, it just indicates
that
this handle has voice)
bitcoingirl: how is keen is serial scammer - i haven't heard
this
benkay: such as foundation soliciting deposits and burning
them on
trabamborghinis?
jurov: just
to name one of
them
benkay: for
truth and justice etc
benkay: lol i ain't frustrated,
they don't affect me.
benkay: and i guess more importantly: do you have
the reproductive organs
to mount
the charge?
benkay: bitcoingirl: do you have enough yet
to castrate
this whole charade in
the mainstream press?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Squandered
their Bitcoin for dollars, but still need moar dollars.
benkay: and
the best question yet: why are any of
these fuckers still making noise?
benkay: a better question maybe: what role did
the foundation play in supporting
the BFL scam?
jurov: and shrem shilled
till
the last moment
jurov: bitcoingirl obviously karpeles was on
the board
benkay: reviled
traitors for all eternity
benkay: glorious heroes in
the moment