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Namworld: Simulating/scanning a live one properly and actually controlling
thoughts
through simulations and predictions of inputs effects would probably require computing power and an amount of energy
that just isn't realistically feasible for centuries.
Namworld: I never said we were
there yet.
The brain is extremely complex. So many molecules of all kinds, complex structures.
jurov: even neural network simulators were found
to have weakness - researchers were able
to imperceptibly (to humans) change
the samples which
the neural networks miscategorized
punkman: the
technology of
the demagogue is as old as dirt, who needs brain-controlling computars
jurov: do we really have such machines? i don't
think so
Namworld: Yes, I didn't mean mechanical in
that fashion. More
that chemical reactions are akin
to machines. Although I guess it's not good practice
to speak casually like
that.
jurov: the brain is not "mechanical" in contemporary
technology sense. it's wetware with myriads of interlocking electrochemical processes
Namworld: Eh, misuse of new
technologies for
the purpose of enslavement is nothing new.
Namworld: I was more hinting about
technology eventually reaching brain control chip level and
the
technology being applied
to everyone. Because let's face it 1.
The brain is mechanical 2. You can control just about any sort of machine given
the
time
to develop
the approriate
tools 3. Someone at some point in
time will
try
to get it installed on everyone for selfish purposes.
FabianB: kakobrekla:
thanks, works great :)
pankkake: they're already feeding a large chunk of
the population with antidepressants
Namworld: I really hope
the "mentally ill" group doesn't include
the whole Earth population
jurov: pankkake: i really hope
these electrodes end up as ignobel candidates,
too
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fluffypony: I was just quoting Derek Zoolander - ban HIM from
Twitter!
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: OMG going
to get banned from
Twitter nao!!!
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Namworld: So I'm well aware of
those issues... but not everyone will run proper background checks.
Namworld: If
there's no criminal record, it's good enough. Notice I said
the real world didn't care about REALITY.
fluffypony: or even worse -
they could be 100% genuine and yet still be involved in completely baseless court action
that someone has
taken against
them (pissed off ex-girlfriend or ex-employee or ex-business-partner)
fluffypony: Namworld: but what does knowing
their real identity do?
they could have run all sorts of scams and just not (yet) been caught,
they could have had out-of-court settlements and all sorts
Namworld: fluffypony,
the real world doesn't care about reality. You dox people and
that's it.
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jurov: this is how england worked, back when it was still a respectable country, up until
the socialist revolution of
the 80s. << lol if only margie
t. heard you
fluffypony: the person is a) known, b)
trusted by some when
trading / lending / borrowing / dealing, c) has been around for a while, d) has not absconded with funds in
the history of
their presence on
the WoT
fluffypony: Namworld: I
think
that a starting point would be historicity
Namworld: What kind of checks can
they run at all anyway? Dox people? Seems limited
to
that.
fluffypony: "havelock should hv done
their checks on him and not offer scam companies."
assbot: Neo & Bee
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Namworld: That's
the most logical explanation I can find, and it's not very logical, but eh.
jurov: <benkay> [00:00:24] no no, coinbr resolves
to hookers << what?
fluffypony: ;;later
tell benkay F.OLD as
the symbol?
cazalla: the one with
the crooked fkn zebras
TheNewDeal: not familiar with
the one you're referring
to
cazalla: dw, it's like
the Oklahoma Michigan bet and nobody had
that one
TheNewDeal: cazalla would you like
to buy some of my exposure
to
the bastille day bet?
TheNewDeal: that's kinda neat
that all mpex people can create i.diff futures
TheNewDeal: it said midnight of
third wednesday, or 6/18, no?
TheNewDeal: it said midnight of
thi no?rd wednesday, or 6/18
TheNewDeal: that's with a 13.35 day
total
time between diff changes
TheNewDeal: I've got
the diff change happening around 06:00 on 6/18 GMT
time
cazalla: don't sweat it
TheNewDeal, it's a lock
TheNewDeal: totally just updated my prediction
to 4.8%
thestringpuller: i'm also one of
the few people here who's fiat cashflow > crypto cash flow
TheNewDeal: getting very
tired with btc price bets
TheNewDeal: I felt
the desire
to
take a risk with an a decent amount of my capital on something
that actually can be calculated easily
TheNewDeal: I've got a lot of my stake invested in
the Bastille Day, starting
to make me sweat
benkay: TheNewDeal: care
to
take a guess at when
the diff will finally reverse?
TheNewDeal: I'm pretty noobish at modeling a random walk
though
gribble: Error: Something in
there wasn't a valid number.
TheNewDeal: still looks like
there should be a
third change unless
things start going backwards
TheNewDeal: I'm updating
TheNewDeals estimate
to 4.8% increase
BingoBoingo: I'd be
thrilled if it stalled out until Bastille Day
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 11861036168.8 based on data since last change | 11960937288.6 based on data for last
three days
TheNewDeal: bitcoin network needs some steriods
this week
smickles: they are
tired, i did it
too late in
the day
smickles: ah, speaking of
that. I have
to give
them a bath. bb in 20 min or so
BingoBoingo: smickles: Either
that or
the kids will be out of
the house.
smickles: so much
to read, no way i'll get current hehe
mircea_popescu: smickles if it's <1
they justcan't self voice anymoar.
smickles: do people get de-voiced if assbot has a low L2 of
them?
smickles: oh my, can I even
type words properly anymore?
mircea_popescu: haha. i don't even recall, where you here when logs were introduced ?
the bash ?
smickles: it's like
the channel just went on without me
assbot: #bitcoin-assets +m pe
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mircea_popescu: you gotta id with gribble
then pm assbot !up
to get permavoiced.
TheNewDeal: but now bets are greater
than incoming revenue
mike_c: catch you guys
tomorrow.
TheNewDeal: the way
they report it now - with bets made
taken as a windfall, and bets resolved as a gain, kind of hides
their results of
their bets
mike_c: although mp has proposed
that ballers swap shares of mpoe like it's cash. which is interesting.
mircea_popescu: which is why
the stability of
the investment universe is actually drastically more important for bitcoin
than for fiat.
mircea_popescu: which brings us
to
the problem : because bitcoin is fixed, a 95% investment situation will be unavoidable statistically. as
the value of all paper will much exceed
the value of cash btc available, willy-nilly.
TheNewDeal: regardless, Buffet's capital is how many
times greater
than most people?
mircea_popescu: mike_c well amusingly enough i actually am holding
tons of paper. just, it's
to a large degree my own.
mircea_popescu: soyou know, gotta
take what
the man says with a gtain of salt.
mike_c: ok.. perhaps
this will bring our lines of
thought closer: in my
theoretical model, someone with as much bitcoin as you should absolutely not be 95% invested.
mircea_popescu: he also says
that he's not going
to discuss his strategy given
that it's valuable and easily replicated
mthreat: buffett
talks about
that a lot, e.g. from 1994: "Though
there are as many good businesses as ever, it is useless for us
to make purchases
that are inconsequential in relation
to Berkshire's capital. … We now consider a security for purchase only if we believe we can deploy at least $100 million in it. Given
that minimum, Berkshire's investment universe has shrunk dramatically.