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mircea_popescu: the advantage of making both "in
the same batch" is quite unclear, not like you'd be stuck with batches of like, 3 full and 7 1/4s
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's unclear
to me what exact benefit would
this be. if you can make 1
th asics, you can sell 1
th asics.
mircea_popescu: course so far
that's correlated moreover negatively over
the history of bitcoin miner manufacturers
Namworld: Anyone
that knows about
the ASIC design process, how non-sensical is
that statement?
Namworld: with regards
to $/GH/W and unparalleled ASIC diversification with essentially
three different ASIC products available from one production batch."
Namworld: "Our 28nm ASIC design architecture dubbed
the “Creator”
to be used at
the foundry level allows for simultaneous production of
the 1TH “Creator 1” Bitcoin ASIC, 256GH “Creator 2” Bitcoin ASIC and
the 4MH “Creator 3” SCRYPT ASIC from
the same wafer batch.
This unique ability, and
the lower costs associated with
the FDSOI process, lends Provenance ASIC a competitive advantage
benkay: "disliking
the usg makes you a bad person"
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punkman: what I'm describing is more like escrow
than oracle I guess
punkman: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu a silly example, me and dignork both make a 1btc
transaction
to each other, but we can only spend
them after
the bitbet oracle signs
the
transaction
mircea_popescu: and anyone can
trivially be charged a fee for finding out when x bet resolves : he sends a bet
to a virgin address
mircea_popescu: that's ok, question
that aren';t worth betting on aren't worth answering.
punkman: if
there's interest, you can also provide answers
to
things
that aren't worth betting on
punkman: anyway why not charge a fee
to sign
transactions when X bet resolves
punkman: not
the canonical one, more in
the sense of
these blockchain oracle constructions
dignork: pankkake:
the oracle can work like : yes/no/idunnohumanplease
pankkake: what kind of bets can be automatically verified? do you
trust
the source not
to fuck up?
mircea_popescu: punkman oracle service cost is unbound is
the problem.
dignork: mike_c: maybe only subset of bets, which can be automatically verified,
these bets are submitted without review, less work for bitbet op, more monies for
turnover
punkman: I
think if bitbet provided an oracle service
that might be handy for building
things on, but I'm not about
to
trust some random dude's oracle
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: y'know, i
think bitcoin has actually soured my opinion of
the concept of an "idea" << actual business experience in
the company of actual business people has soured you on infantile bullcrap. neither bitcoin nor ideas particularly involved.
pankkake: I like Amazon for delivering physical items,
they do it very well
mircea_popescu: mike_c: idk, i'm not in
the 'everything should be free' camp. << but
the camp is "nothing should be amazon"
dignork: say
they'll be redemed in case of detacted fraud
dignork: mike_c: i
think it's possible
to make a multisig fund, where each oracle op drops some funds,
these funds are deal insurance, but I didn't
think it
through completely
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: l.o.l. << don't do something merely stupid. do something spectacularly stupid instead!!! and don't even mention
the actually sane alternative,
that's gonna hurt your feelings so it doesn't exist.
mike_c: dignork: but
then you
trusting
the crowd of oracles
to make
the right decision. see rota for examples of
that not working so well.
mircea_popescu: a decade back
they introduced .ro, ie, for romania. i laughed at
them
then, i'm still laughi8ng at
them
dignork: mircea_popescu:
they open sourced
their current code in git, assuming free security reviews, stopped watchig after
that
mircea_popescu: pankkake: as well as litecoin.foundation. fuckers << dude who
the fuck cares.
mircea_popescu: "Second set of drafts coming
through
tomorrow. Seen a little preview, already looking very sharp. After
that, we refine and
then program. Looking good for
the one month ETA"
dignork: so you have oracle bot
that can be hacked/bribed w.e, but if you have multiple, it's assumed
to be harder
to do
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the dunne
thing, what about it dignork ? guy was briefly here about
that
time
jurov: mircea_popescu:
that was 7 or so years ago, google worked as advertised
then
mircea_popescu: jurov: he
typed "viki" << i
typed viki and nothing happened
nubbins`: also:
they used an actual live jazz band for
the music in mario kart 8
pankkake: the letters are available for free,
this is just a nicer packaging
benkay: this ebook
thing is a vehicle for
this startupper
to make money on others work
benkay: the value of
the letters has already been delivered in berkshire stock appreciation
nubbins`: well, maybe soured isn't
the word
pankkake: we need
the bandcamp of ebooks: no account needed, pay and get un-drmed ebook in
the format of your choice
nubbins`: y'know, i
think bitcoin has actually soured my opinion of
the concept of an "idea"
pankkake: I can save
them if I want
to, and it's not
trying
to forbid it
mike_c: you can't own
trilema pages. gotta rent
them.
benkay: Mats_cd03: we found
the stuff as what was wrong and unfucked it.
mike_c: idk, i'm not in
the 'everything should be free' camp.
pankkake: a format
that works only with amazon's reader and comes with drm,
that's an horrible combo
mike_c: $3 for an ebook sounds like
the right price
to me.
Mats_cd03: what makes you qualified
to audit cryptography
mike_c: why jerk up
the 'our work' header?
mike_c: it moves around a lot when i click
the client boxes
benkay: dorp i didn't see
the "kindle 3 dollars" button
benkay: pankkake: it pops a modal. maybe one of
the designers knows how
to make it happen without js, but
that's like 0.001% of potential clients.
pankkake: I have an un-drmed azw3 for
the interested. can be easily converted
to epub
assbot: Berkshire Hathaway Letters
to Shareholders, 2012: Warren Buffett, Max Olson: 9781595910776: Amazon.com: Books
benkay: mike_c: where is
this berkshire ebook?
mike_c: clicking
tozny worked for me
pankkake: "our works" works, but not clicking on
tozny. I don't see why
that couldn't be possible
benkay: mircea_popescu doesn't get
to see it without js sorry boss
pankkake: "if
the idea is good" oh god :(
pankkake: my javascript blocking rules don't show comments
there
fluffypony: I'm sure people would buy shares like crazy if you issue
them as colored coins (if
the idea is good)."
fluffypony: "Don't sell your soul
to VC if you don't have
to.
Try community funding first.
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pankkake: not priceless, it costs ~20€ :p not counting
the whois protections if available
pankkake: bitcoin.foundation already
taken :(
pankkake: .foundation is a newly approved
TLD
pankkake: assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PROV] 56 @ 0.002 = 0.112 BTC {3} ←
this
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transactions for 0.1 BTC
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benkay: hey mike you do dev work in
the states - have you ever gone in for errors and omissions insurance?