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ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell mike_c http://pastebin.com/qha386AV
asciilifeform: dub: had same, after coming to usa
asciilifeform: i still remember the shock of encountering widgets that resembled actual comp but weren't programmable.
dub: the one console I recall using was the old pong game that plugged into a tv
asciilifeform: btw i never had the 'wolf & eggs.' too l33t. borrowed from kid next door.
cazalla: similar to this http://northwaygames.com/wp-content/uploads/tetris.png
cazalla: we had similar knock offs in australia, it was my grandmother who bought me brick when i wanted a gameboy with tetris and she tried to tell me it was the same thing
cazalla: tfw too poor to own a gameboy, somehow $2 brick from reject shop didn't fill the void
asciilifeform: there's probably a number of these.
mircea_popescu: sincerest form of flattery and all that.
bloctoc: is the french rate that ECB negative rate from a week or two ago?
mircea_popescu: actually, failed isn't even the word. we need something strong like the french rate
bloctoc: benkay - plus marketing, rent, receivables (mentioned earlier) and plane tickets for CEO to find more money.
mircea_popescu: this is how the generation of your father failed.
mircea_popescu: benkay also known as moral hazard, this, and why someone's gotta put a stop to it
mircea_popescu: for the other, how do you know what he's stashed away ?
mircea_popescu: for one, things don't look suspicious for what they are, but for what they look
davout: ThickAsThieves: yeah, i was thinking like car accident or whatever way that wouldn't look suspicious
ThickAsThieves: cuz it'd draw more attention to his ideas?
benkay: okay derailment over thanks gents
mircea_popescu: your eye impaled upon the impending ?
benkay: huh i seem to like this word.
benkay: implying the thing impends and that i've my eye upon it.
mircea_popescu: the time to <derp derp derp> is nigh, if not upon us already
benkay: lol no the implication is that knowing that a thing is upon one is a hard thing to figure
ThickAsThieves: the time is either nigh, now, or passed
ThickAsThieves: it's implied that you'd know when it was upon you, so surmising whether it may already be is only exposing a state of nigh
benkay: grammar question: "the time to <derp derp derp> is nigh if not upon us already" << y/n?
mircea_popescu: apparently the guy is a total gold bug. the ever helpful tardopedia : " His 20 year tenure as head of Forbes magazine coincided with the decline of the publication and the Forbes family empire."
ThickAsThieves: “Somebody can’t go and use a whole bunch of our patents but then sue us for using one of theirs,” Musk said “That seems like it wouldn’t be a very nice thing to do.”
mircea_popescu: forbes didn't say that.
mircea_popescu: eh total bs source
assbot: Steve Forbes says U.S. will return to a gold standard
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was he a chechen living in turkmenistan ?
asciilifeform: ^ predicted the collapse of ussr, off by 1/2 decade
gribble: Andrei Amalrik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Amalrik>; ANDREI AMALRIK Part 1 - Stetson University: <http://www.stetson.edu/~psteeves/classes/amalrik1.html>; ANDREI AMALRIK WILL THE SOVIET UNION SURVIVE TO 1984: <http://www.stetson.edu/~psteeves/classes/amalrik2.html>
mthreat: taleb has tweeted about bitcoin twice: https://twitter.com/search?q=bitcoin%20from%3Anntaleb&src=typd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i doubt it. he's actually more expensive to kill than to ignore. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i bet mr. t is cleaning ak as we speak
mircea_popescu: and their political position is made more difficult by the presence of the millitant communists in the democrat party.
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mircea_popescu: there's no certain reason for it to work for the entire finance bureaucracy
ThickAsThieves: hehe i just read the part about he started weightlifting cuz he was worried for his safety
davout: asciilifeform: "afaik he never penetrated the 'bozo barrier field' that surrounds it" <<< haha, that's probably very true
mircea_popescu: davout because to this day about half of the us bureaucracy is shielded by only the flimsy "nobody could have predicted"
asciilifeform: good point, actually. anyone else find it interesting that the man still lives?
mircea_popescu: davout asa bonus he has a lenghty list of "i fucking told you so" for various people.
asciilifeform: afaik he never penetrated the 'bozo barrier field' that surrounds it
davout: from what i understand of the black swan, his ideas pretty much destroy the rationales by which risk is managed in traditional finance
mircea_popescu: but i'd love to have him in here.
ThickAsThieves: but the human race never fails to find new ways to surprise and disappoint
mircea_popescu: yeah, but his simple existence poses some very significant ontological problems to many folk in socialist academia
ThickAsThieves: it seems odd to me, since so far his ideas make plenty sense
mircea_popescu: he's disliked by the people who imagine he's not their peer.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: taleb, as i understand, bet on us collapse, raked in the dough.
mircea_popescu: Thanks everyone for the incredible amount of support on this project! I hope we're just getting started."
ThickAsThieves: he paints himself as disliked by his peers, is that the case?
ThickAsThieves: i'm totally ignorant of taleb other than gaining a familiarity of his name from you guys over the months
bloctoc: I don't wish to be pedantic, but the donner party did not just die, they ate each other.
asciilifeform: doesn't much matter, he already 'did the right thing'
mircea_popescu: i wonder if taleb reads this line before he dies.
asciilifeform: quite true, not the same. which is why it's a crying shame gauss, etc. didn't get to print their notebooks while at their best
mircea_popescu: i dare say the taleb notes and the gangue of great minds found at their burial are not the same
davout: mircea_popescu: tried dictionary, should've tried wikipedia instead XD
asciilifeform: ^ earlier discussion of items like the taleb notes
mircea_popescu: and this is perhaps the first time i used "dude" in its proper fucking sense in this chan. go me.
mircea_popescu: davout some dudes, tried to traverse the utah salt marshes, died.
mircea_popescu: whereas an uncombed, out of bed appearance like those notes is actually better according to the readers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah this is an interesting point. people believe [because they're trained in school to believe and they never examine it ?] that the "proper" form is and they're at their best in book form
ThickAsThieves: it puts into words concepts ive always kinda had theories about
asciilifeform: so far my favourite taleb is that link mp posted earlier
ThickAsThieves: and to whomever recommended Antifragile, it was exactly the next book I was looking for, great so far
mircea_popescu: <davout> mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume << you know the donner party also wasn't as large before as it was at the point it starved to death.
mircea_popescu: hard to hasten
asciilifeform: a toy that will hasten the owner's death, if used as theorized here
ThickAsThieves: ascii, i finished anathem, thanks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a toy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: ad-hoc ir spectrometer discussion: no dice. not that you can't train, e.g. neural net to distinguish mdma from shoe polish - you can. but the objective of identifying synthesis byproducts (basement lab folks rarely bother with recrystallization) - this one takes actual brains.
bloctoc: if bitpay takes 3 days to receive the fiat. That's a loan essentially in BTC to be repaid in USD. so, they're shorting btc and will always be shorting the bigger they get.
kakobrekla: also check this out, 2 years or derping
ThickAsThieves: <+BingoBoingo> ThickAsThieves: Continued BTCFundnation goodwill... /// isnt bitpay already a plutonium level supernode sponsor member?
kakobrekla: i found that rtbtc goes back enough
dub: she seemed retarded in the 'election' interview
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ set to 2 years load raw data ?
ThickAsThieves: she did seem to be a decent little worker bee for btcf at the conference
davout: mircea_popescu: well, if you count $10k/month/person that's like 3.6mn/year in salary, that's not *that* much compared to what they raised, and they haven't been 30 for that long o a time i'd assume
BingoBoingo: Another problem with Bitpay is they have a habit of hiring "names" http://www.coindesk.com/elizabeth-ploshay-joins-bitpay/
ThickAsThieves scrapes asciilifeform from the ground.
midnightmagic: also, on that team page, manuel araoz builds software that attacks bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: i dunno, this concept of bitcoin services doing a NASDAQ/NYSE IPO, seems somehow naturally unlikely
kakobrekla: wheres the easiest to check btc price for june 2012
mircea_popescu: from what i hear this 30mn bought them a lease on life worth about a year.
davout: just had a look at their "team" page
davout: i guess that's closer to what you were explaining initially
mircea_popescu: once they start laying down rail track and optic fiber...
davout: you don't need 10x more engineers to process 10x more payments
mircea_popescu: davout in theory.
davout: aren't there legitimate cases where companies need to raise repeatedly because their current positive cash-flow is not sufficient to address the market as it could be addressed?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But they refuse to acknowledge that as well