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pankkake: but they aren't necessarily the same
punkman: pankkake: yeah that's the problem with watermelons, although the merchants often cut one up for tasting
pankkake: but you have to open it
punkman: it's called tasting
punkman: I have this 1 weird trick
pankkake: I've mastered the chosing of avocados
pankkake: why not? there's always weird tricks with food
punkman: do I have to put them up to my ear and tap them?
punkman: why is it so hard to find a decent watermelon
fluffypony: punkman: that dude looks like Magnum PI
decimation: It would be highly satisfying to write "zek" for nationality on an official form
decimation: I'm pretty sure that's a crap translation though
decimation: asciilifeform my favorite quote from "the first circle": "A familiar figure in many prison research establishments, Professor Chelnov, an old mathematician arrested seventeen years ago and who, when he had to fill in a form, put down his nationality not as 'Russian' but as 'zek', had applied his mind to many inventions, from the direct flow boiler to the jet engine, and had put his heart and soul into several of them."
unbalanced: Big day for me, living la vida crypto. Thanks all. Going afk for a while.
unbalanced: ;;rate asciilifeform 1 Almost paranoid enough... almost. I learn a ton from him.
asciilifeform: lol, turns out pediwikia has this explained
unbalanced: ;;later tell nubbins I'm in the WOT! Only took what, 4 months from Inception? PM at will.
unbalanced: You just knew about the max 4x diff jump, I haven't heard many people who know that. But I suppose it makes sense that everyone here would.
mike_c: he's not a merchant, he's a market maker. i'm sure the diff changes are great for him.
unbalanced: You don't need it with LeaseRig.net, see the pastebin somewhere 8 miles up.
unbalanced: I suspect BingoBoingo was the hash raider. Just a theory. No judgment.
unbalanced: See this here is more chat activity than #altcoin gets in a day. Come on over people!
mircea_popescu: mike_c from what i recall BingoBoingo wasn't too adverse to the jumps
mike_c: like i said, i don't think this is any kind of life & death thing. it's smoothing out an annoyance.
unbalanced: See, with ATC you can relive the early days of BTC!
unbalanced: Purely routine. Just a test. No, no need to read the fine print. Just sign here.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: i would not, but i'd gladly take their coin.
unbalanced: You know MP, I'm testing my ATC wallet. Could you send me all your ATC, and then I'll send it back?
mircea_popescu: mike_c would you take the jd gamblers to dinner ?
mike_c: JD wouldn't be happy if gamblers had to wait 1-2 hours to deposit money
mircea_popescu: the only folk it really hurts are speculators, of the redditard type
mircea_popescu: i really don't see th econcern. if anything, slow txn are good for a coin, they keep the people in a hurry at bay
unbalanced: Yes, I guess a tslb of >1hr only matters if the coin is moving around more than once an hour. Or day.
mircea_popescu: mike_c haven't heard from the satoshijack dude in a long time
mike_c: cuz the miners should have dropped in price.
mike_c: and i ran the numbers before btc diff went up, so it could be better
unbalanced: Rough back-of-the-envelope I'd say 400 satoshis per ATC if I'm lucky. Is that what you got mike_c or am I off by an order of magnitude?
mike_c: it's like we have discussed before. it affects merchants. it's not as easy to move coin around. this makes little difference for the occasional user, but 1 hour block time on average means sometimes 2+ hours for a block.
unbalanced: See also #altcoin... that channel needs new blood.
mircea_popescu: mike_c sotell me then :D
unbalanced: thestringpuller, by "dump" mike_c meant a pastebin link somewhere above, detailing how to use leaserig.net to employ mining rigs on demand.
mike_c: i ran the numbers, but I won't tell if you don't want to know :)
unbalanced: The diff is still unfolding so I don't have a final number yet. I haven't wanted to calculate it or I might stop.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced so in th end how much did you end up paying per atc trying to mine ?
mike_c: they do to me.
mircea_popescu: mike_c they don't seem to be hurting anything tho do they ?
thestringpuller: call it Crypto Trail
unbalanced: thestringpuller, you too can live the dream!
mike_c: i don't worry about the coin dying, but +80%/-80% diff changes are annoying.
thestringpuller: seems fun, like a glimpse in the past...
mircea_popescu: unbalanced its perfectly uneconomical to try and kill the coin already.
mike_c: yeah. i don't know if it's the right thing to do, but I do think it's worth trying.
unbalanced: I just want to make it increasingly uneconomical to try to kill the coin. Just an experiment really.
mike_c: ;;rate unbalanced 1 ATC tinkerer/supporter
mike_c: well, it seems like a good thing to try to me.
unbalanced: But really, "easily" is a relative term so this may be a fool's errand.
unbalanced: I figure that the -25% to -50% range is desirable, as long as it doesn't fall so far someone can't easily spike it up 4x again.
mike_c: not yet. what kind of diff change are you trying to get this period?
mike_c: hehe, then thank you too
unbalanced: Hey, I took that dump. That's my dump! But thanks for the later-ing ThickAsThieves.
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: thanks for the dump
mike_c: so unbalanced, what kind of diff change are you shooting for this period?
unbalanced: ;;rate mike_c 1 Made btcalpha.com, great tools and analysis.
mircea_popescu: so why are you there!
decimation: solzhenitsyn's "the first circle" resonates with me. in the collectivist us, it is hard to escape this condition
unbalanced: ;;rate pankkake 1 Funny, helpful, fights BS along with the other Super-Friends.
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decimation: I'm just a zek, trying to scrape by in the world
unbalanced: ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 Wrote helpful GPG guide. May be my arch-nemesis in the ATC mines though, not sure yet.
unbalanced: Ah. I was going to ask you why they print on that orange-pink paper. Don't dodge the question!
decimation: sorry for the unclear language
decimation: heh no the link is entitled "my best interview" on taleb's page
assbot: nntaleb comments on IAm Nassim Taleb, author of Antifragile, AMA
decimation: he did an "ama" for the redditards, and he mostly dodged bitcoin: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1aoi0s/iam_nassim_taleb_author_of_antifragile_ama/c8zb3d8
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unbalanced: ;;unrate teward
unbalanced: Mmkay, so teward, I will revoke, nothing personal. Once I figure out how.
decimation: abosolutely. he might be too integrated in the wall street wot to make new friends here though
decimation: That I am unable to destroy the economics establishment, the press."
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unbalanced: ;;rate teward 1 Just met, helped me out, knows his stuff.
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decimation: lol from taleb's home page (my best interview) http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/d538a45a-4871-11e2-a1c0-00144feab49a.html#axzz2Z2Yg5a6H
decimation: which puts you right back into having to make friends and influence people in the bezzle wot
unbalanced: ;;rate jurov 1 Runs coinbr, more... has earned my trust.
asciilifeform: if you take honest sheckels - gotta sell something
decimation: if you take the king's shekels etc
asciilifeform: papers with thick endnote sections full of favourite nephews.
asciilifeform: try apply for usg grant that pads no one's pocket but your own
decimation: yeah. like my point about rolls royce just making derpy web pages would be more profitable than jet engines
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no see, wouldn't that make perfect sense ?
asciilifeform: decimation: go suggest to boss: 'we need to re-write every line written since 1969.'
asciilifeform: ideally you would have some means for linearly pissing state out to a cheap disk
decimation: I'm surprised HP isn't trying to build an fpga with precisely this
asciilifeform: not just the LUT config, but the block ram
decimation: using magnetic ram for each of the LUT modules?
asciilifeform: and build the actual state in fpga out of same.
asciilifeform: if you have the magnetic ram (actually available commercially, no need to wait for hp) you can dispense with the disk.
asciilifeform: only the circuit that marshalls state from the independent modules (e.g. keyboard buffer) to magnetic storage needs to know that it's a disk, and comes in 0...N 'LBA' blocks, etc.
decimation: in the end, you would only need the "address space" for permanant storage