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asciilifeform: 'would you, could you, in the zoo?'
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the gulag shall be quite public. webcams everywhere, with ample explanation as to what the criminal did.
mircea_popescu: i doubt very much he meant that.
asciilifeform: isn't that what is traditionally meant in this context for 'disappear' ?
mircea_popescu: the actual risk is that they're getting rounded up and sent to extermination labour camps.
mircea_popescu: they should be happy to merely disappear
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thestringpuller: since that seems to be the case, they try to plan a pregnancy for once then the OBGYN asks, "Well how many abortions have you had?"
thestringpuller: for some reason I don't think you're kidding :D
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i only fuck whores anyway. they're no longer fertile on the grounds of all the countless abortions back when they were 16.
thestringpuller: oooh more trilema to read
mircea_popescu: i'd be stuck getting back to this blogpost which is already too big anyway
mircea_popescu: well if you were what'd we talk about :)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i know exactly what mathematical contrievance you have in mind, just not convinced that it applies here
mircea_popescu: which i suppose is a very good formalisation of what i mean by "not analysable" : imagine a set of numbers which includes an order property, but excludes the highest and lowest member in any subset.
asciilifeform: if he can't do his thing because he's worn a zombie collar from birth and knows his place in the uranium mines, we're at 10.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't include the margins of any subset
asciilifeform: i'd say, if mr. newton can't do his thing because the city burns every tuesday, we're at '5000k'
mircea_popescu: no matter how they may be defined
mircea_popescu: basically, this is a magical set that never includes its margins
mircea_popescu: right. which were never part of the discussion of the ideal temperature anyway
mircea_popescu: this is part of the non-differentiability, it does not contain its degenerate cases.
asciilifeform: e.g. we don't know the ideal temperature for a living planet, but we can be pretty sure it isn't 10K
mircea_popescu: i suppose that's a much better statement than "merit isn't a thing"
mircea_popescu: the domains are not discrete ; the functions defined on them are not monotonous nor even differentiable.
asciilifeform: so the question becomes, how vigorously to shake.
asciilifeform: the ball bearings will, ideally, end up in the valleys
asciilifeform: you want to find the valleys. so you shake it.
asciilifeform: picture a toy plastic 'landscape' with hills and valleys, and a couple of ball bearings
asciilifeform: more general than this
mircea_popescu: isn't this the probabilistic thing that finds the shortest path going through one city or we ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the space isn't discrete tho.
asciilifeform: btw, anyone following the discussion who is unfamiliar with 'simulated annealing' method of mathematical wizardry, should open a book and quickly become familiar
mircea_popescu: merit isn't a thing.
mircea_popescu: merit only exists in a measuring context. the choice of a measuring context is political.
mircea_popescu: they... rose up from the ranks.
asciilifeform: well, herr newton, etc. rising up from the ranks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing << now i'm curious
mircea_popescu: pankkake addition to irker ?
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mircea_popescu: hm, 16 core cpus are cool just because you get to watch the colored lines if you feel like it
thestringpuller: the other shirts I had printed were medium in fruit of the loom, my lanky arms make it uncomfortable sometimes XD
thestringpuller: i'll do a large then
nubbins`: if you're not sure, opt for a larger size, they'll shrink a bit in the wash
mircea_popescu: i was thinking, "he'll have to think about that"
kakobrekla still thinks hashking was 13
nubbins`: thestringpuller: pm address and i'll get it printed & sent off within the next few days
nubbins`: dangerous things, words
mircea_popescu remembers when people were pissed off at hashking on the forum for stealing all their bitcoinz, and some forumer said he sounds like he's 14 and he sarcastically said o no he's 15. formonths afterwards ppl were like 15 yo stole our monyz!!11 in all seriousness.
thestringpuller: i'll take the optinal channel label!
thestringpuller: hmm i like that
nubbins`: thestringpuller: i forgot to take pix. same font, smaller, "irc.freenode.net" with "#bitcoin-assets" underneath, just below top collar
mircea_popescu: np, it shall be perpetuated as truth regardless.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> i was actually offered a consulting gig at a local credit union because of my wot rating << tru story ?
thestringpuller: oh nubbins` do you have a mockup of what it looks like with the #bitcoin-assets printed on it?
nubbins`: no joke, that pic came from a site called "gay gamer"
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> here's a recent pic of him: http://imgur.com/Ho4chGH << actually he looks like that guy when he was 30ish :D
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins`: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013
kakobrekla: what is the bots name again
mircea_popescu: <FabianB> <+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots << o ya kako please add empy
kakobrekla: learn to no fee
thestringpuller: oh well nubbins` it'll get there evenutally
thestringpuller: there is no fee on it is there :(
thestringpuller: how much for the shirt now?
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nubbins`: you can't really tell, but he's wearing dockers and a leather belt
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
KRS1: its cool tho..im gonna shuffle off now
KRS1: guess it was the "way" he did it
KRS1: danielpbarron: you are right..he did respond to me.
danielpbarron: KRS1, it looks to me like kakobrekla voice you first; I'm not sure why would would have a problem with him..
nubbins`: This user has not authenticated for more than 219 days :00000
nubbins`: This user has not authenticated for more than 164 days :0
nubbins`: it just makes a couple things more convenient
nubbins`: now you're just being silly, you don't need a wot rating to stay
KRS1: Thanks but I can't nubbins, my wot rating isn't good enough to stay. Chetty: <assbot> You need a better WOT rating. (level 2 with assbot >0)
KRS1: thank anyway danielpbarron, apparently I'm not "elite" enough for this channel..and i don't want to waste any more of kakobrekla's precious fucking time.
nubbins`: compassion == me letting her stay there thus far
Mats_cd03: shake your walker at her too
chetty: give the poor woman some water
fluffypony: nubbins`: do you live in the Bronx of Canada?
Mats_cd03: ive forgotten the passphrase
FabianB: Mats_cd03: did you loose it or did you forget the passphrase?
Mats_cd03: i forgot the private key associated with gribble :s
kakobrekla: <benkay> talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels.
kakobrekla: <benkay> <benkay> hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped // i suggested this ages ago and was shot down mercilessly.
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benkay: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309073.msg3315672#msg3315672 // but how are you going to get the pools to support a hard fork that would allow their participants to cheat?
FabianB: <+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots
mircea_popescu: according to reddit, reddit's merituous.
mircea_popescu: the problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing.,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and there'll be plenty of folks ready to help << clearly.
moiety: krs1 have you tried releasing the nick in case they havent registered it?
KRS1: ok thanks