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asciilifeform: let them outlaw farting, as well.
diametric: davout: I'm missing how you think the first sentence doesn't ban using something as money other than USD.
davout: i'm putting it in circulation as valueless tokens
diametric: No it does, the first sentence clearly states if you put into circulation as money anything but USD, you're in violation.
diametric: "A person shall not issue or put in circulation, as money, anything but the lawful money of the United States." first sentence.
diametric: davout: If the alternative currency is based on the USD its okay. So you can buy/sell with bitcoin so long as the value you give to bitcoin is coupled to USD you're fine.
davout: diametric: i read it as "issuing alternative currency based on the usd isn't forbidden"
ThickAsThieves: you could also read that as "it's legal until the fed says it isnt"
diametric: The second allows it so long as its coupled to USD
diametric: davout: It says you can exchange bitcoin for money, and you can exchange goods and services for bitcoin so long as that bitcoin value is based in USD.
dexX7: you read it as something like "you are fine with accepting btc as long as you also accept usd"?
diametric: Theres also a subtle distinction. So long as goods and services sold for bitcoin, calculate their cost in bitcoin based on USD, all is fine.
ThickAsThieves: "A person shall not issue or put in circulation, as money, anything but the lawful money of the United States. Nothing in this section shall prohibit the issuance and use of alternative currency that is redeemable for lawful money of the United States or that has value based on the value of lawful money of the United States but a person shall not be required to accept alternative
the20year2: Would be much easier just to separate the BCG from the bolthead and just throw it as far as you can
asciilifeform: and grunts are, afaik, severely punished for using it as such
diametric: the20year2: creating the toolpath from the design can be just as difficult as the design itself.
the20year2: But, as you said if it's a prototype it might make sense to test it before using. Granted I don't undersand how you came to $700 if that fee doesn't include the design work too
asciilifeform: the bureaucrats got a good deal for that 500. case never went to trial, and so they'll get to pull this shit as many times as they like.
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if i could get away with selling NSA original logo shirts as parody too
ThickAsThieves: providers being recruiting as enforcers again
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: We played well before the tournament started I believe. It was this thing started on a whim as a four player round robin. truffles nubbins` and myself were in MP's spec I believe and then Namworld was online at the exact right time. Since we need some sort of three way tiebreaker if nubbins` loses to everyone... Fuck it, five way round robin.
mircea_popescu: it's an entire apparatus, not as simple as one guy sadly.
nubbins`: security costs plummet then, as well
nubbins`: to be fair i use it as well, but, shrug
mircea_popescu: mike_c the eyes don't mind all that much just as long as you don't go all spinoza on them
ThickAsThieves: “It is important to continually improve Canada’s regime to address emerging risks, including virtual currencies such as Bitcoin, that threaten Canada’s international leadership in the fight against money laundering and terrorist financing,” said Flaherty.
mircea_popescu: As the mist leaves no scar on the dark green hill so my body leaves no scar on you and never will
asciilifeform: you could play as the 'barbarians'
ThickAsThieves: they just see her as the girl asking for the money
mircea_popescu: kids that live in the us schools today, forbidden to as much as touch, grow up with this HORRID fear of everyone and everything
ThickAsThieves: maybe use your mpex options problem as an example, it was brought up more than once that you had a problem and it should be solved, but only after preparing the information in a way you could digest would you acknowledge it
ThickAsThieves: some people require ritual in their debate is all i mean, i'm not saying it's justifiable, so much as if you talk to people the "right" way, the substance of the conversation can sometimes be allowed to surface
mircea_popescu: so he failed to establish his ground as a man, will do better as a child ?
ThickAsThieves: do you think your style may not serve you in situations like this? as in, you started with farts and piss, and thus gave him an out to start talking like a child?
mircea_popescu: as conditions equalize it'll be indeed interesting.
mircea_popescu: as far as retardation goes.
the20year: as far as IQ goes or what?
davout: the20year: what do you mean? as in inflation-proof?
mircea_popescu: and as a result, they actually had a famine, in the 90s
mircea_popescu: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-bans-halal-and-kosher-slaughter-as-minister-says-animal-rights-come-before-religion-9135580.html
mircea_popescu: "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work....After eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started...and an enormous debt to boot!"
BingoBoingo: Never before has Bowlderization done as much harm as it did to the Big Rock Candy Mountain
pankkake: I've seen a few "enough is enough" about the supposed IT sexism. I think the nonsense worked so far because those are usually quiet communities, so they took silence as acceptation
mircea_popescu: First, to recap: I had about 18,000 followers of my own back in October, when I got added to the suggested user list. (Let's call these "organic" followers.) If I'd have continued my normal rate of growth, i'd have about 25,000 followers today, but thanks to being on the list, I've got close to 300,000 followers. Surprisingly though, I only get as many retweets and replies as I'd get with my organic number of followers.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is almost as good as the Variety Speak. We need John Taffer in this channel.
mircea_popescu: r3wt use bcauth as the bot tells you eh
greenspan_fan: I've looked at the welfare state as supplanting charity, but it's interesting to think that having charity function properly in practice hurts the rational for the welfare state
mircea_popescu: theirs does not in fact work as implemented, like a lawn mower that doesn't cut, you just follow after it with clippers.
greenspan_fan: and in particular, the image of everything great ever written starting as a blank page was perfect
mircea_popescu: low effort as compared to what ?
greenspan_fan: The line about facing the "same one doom" in trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or-the-importance-of-blogging/ was excellent as well
greenspan_fan: "dismissed as idiots/not capable of understanding"
Vexual: this is my question, its very open ended as usual
mircea_popescu: i guess technically that may count as some sort of an attraction.
Vexual: mirce do you think communism as it was in romania allowed more opportunities for people to be successful?
mircea_popescu: i am not interested in a) enriching foreign third parties or b) participating in relationships of any kind on any other structure than as designed by me.
greenspan_fan: a friend of mine ordered a miner from them and now uses it mainly as a space heater
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: Protesters are worthless unless they go as far as Ukraine.
greenspan_fan: the fact that it isn't (and assuming it's possible to trade in any volume) means that you'd be selling/buying from people who clearly don't know as much as you do
mircea_popescu: well, corporal as the case may be.
mircea_popescu: and about 2x as many as france.
mircea_popescu: of course the great germany of ww1 fielded as many people as russia did,
greenspan_fan: post wwii, macarthur planned to open the korean theatre to include china as well
mircea_popescu: it was plato's decision just as well heh.
greenspan_fan: sort of-- you asked me to qualify "well-run" re: nixon. Who I had used as an example of executive quality impacting projection of power via strategic considerations
greenspan_fan: compare w/ clinton or nixon as executives, though
mircea_popescu: we can take the historical facts as historical facts tho.
greenspan_fan: ok, we cannot take the actions of george bush as an example of great or even good strategy
mircea_popescu: which they live subjectively as a rape by reality.
asciilifeform: orlov's point 'business-as-usual is a manufactured product' is a useful one
mircea_popescu: as the entire snowden thing shows.
asciilifeform: as seen in '300'
mircea_popescu: every dood with a ged and a history of shelf stacking thinks they're a person just as much as me. this bizarre state of affairs can only lead to fallover.
greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu: they move on to a new fandom (catharsis!) or get a clue; new people are attracted by the same mechanisms as the previous cohort
mircea_popescu: arguably society as a whole extracts more benefits from the stupid who think themselves smart than from any other venue,
mircea_popescu: cryptorush is a fine example in an endless string of fine examples as to why this nonsense is harmful to the stupid poor.
mircea_popescu: ie, that tons of people are completely clueless as to their proper place in the world.
greenspan_fan: you're much less likely to get hassled as a billionaire if you pretend other people are worth as much as you by some metric
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: American handegg has the same problem as boxing. Amazing where ad revenue goes when fiat backs the ads.
decimation: it strikes me as unlikely that random fanbois were able to actually design and build asics
mircea_popescu: (they spell the ligature i as a j for some god forsaken reason)
decimation: as MP pointed out bitcoin is inflationary for a long time
mircea_popescu: as it has more "intrinsic utility" or w/e ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fun fact : teleportable gold would be cheaper than gold as-is currently is.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I mean we can add some crypto to gold teleportation, but at that point the gold may as well be superfluous
mircea_popescu: "well... do you know the color of the sky just as the sun is rising ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the absence of both of these being long regarded as a bug in the implementation of physicality.
mircea_popescu: it could just as well show that the pedestrian definition of "physical" isn't really as important as we thought.
mircea_popescu: it is not nearly as silly as it seems. there's a fundamental tension at work.
asciilifeform: result: fleet burned, deep sea navigation verboten - as wasteful...
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps usable as an explanation of why the us and generallythe english world collapses today
asciilifeform: dives into, (for those of us who do not know chinese) the reasons why the gadgets did not transition into what we think of as 'technology'
BingoBoingo: Well, I guess this makes a case for chemistry as being a somewhat acceptable surrogate for food.
asciilifeform: they 'color within the lines' (as pre-braindamage paul graham put it)
asciilifeform: the chinese, as i understand, got stuck in a certain 'thermodynamic' trap
mircea_popescu: social engineering as the venetians knew it "mostly went away" too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or at least, social engineering as we know it.
mircea_popescu: and perhaps the larger loss. as people today interact with him like with shakespeare, out of reinterpreted reinterpretations of copies
decimation: this is true. I would rather have bitcoin as-is than no bitcoin
mircea_popescu: by the time they're done they will have collected enough tidbits (such as this one) to actually make an alt with a chance.