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mircea_popescu: looking forward to the "cash-basis bond evaluation" becoming a thing with us banks.
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mircea_popescu: sure you got drowned in spit, but they didn't mean anything by it.
mircea_popescu: it's not delusional, per se. it's just that china is large. when you're that large, spitting in every vessel isn't particularly noteworthy.
mircea_popescu: any more than all the uninhabited towns they built. they got scratch to waste.
mircea_popescu: china has a long history of making horrid public investments. that there's currently a china fed does not realy commit china
mike_c: hm. interesting. cuz the part of china doing the propping is also delusional?
mircea_popescu: i think equating the part of china propping the us currently with china is at best naive.
mircea_popescu: irrespective of their motivations, whether they're there cause they're trying to fuck a guy's daughter or becaue they're drunk
mircea_popescu: all the byzantine generals serving the same camp ARE in that camp,
mircea_popescu: for the purposes of the macro discussion those others are the fed.
mike_c: the fed isn't the sole buyer, they aren't entirely fake. there are others with vested interest in keeping us propped up.
mircea_popescu: but they don't perceive they have options.
mircea_popescu: tyhis has the disadvantage that it bubbles up the stock exchange and (again) real estate
mircea_popescu: their balance sheets consist entirely of worthless paper that has to be overvalued.
mircea_popescu: which is why fake low yields are so important for the us financials atm :
benkay: making all the old treasuries on all the US banks' books worth less, making them more depending on further bailouts?
mircea_popescu: if yields go down, everyone's old bonds expand on the books
mircea_popescu: so bonds being worth less really means the market's going to shit for the issuer. such as you know, default looming or w/e
mircea_popescu: it's a very schematic model, but for the basics : if yields go up low yield older bonds are worth less
mircea_popescu: 1 b+ tvoB(A) - tvoB(B)
benkay: because the available interest rate has gone up?
mircea_popescu: what is the value of A now ?
benkay: 1 B + tvoB?
mircea_popescu: do you understand how bonds are priced, for that matter ?
benkay: okay i get it thank you for your assistance.
benkay: so a bond market is in a bubble if there is lots of demand for the bonds, allowing the issuer to issue for less money.
mircea_popescu: pankkake are these the nude doods ?
ThickAsThieves: sue all the risk!
mircea_popescu: pankkake shit's gotta be rounded, otherwise children could who knows, give themselves a new cunt on the corners of the thing
ThickAsThieves: it's also funny that it's "avoid the risk of"
mircea_popescu: seems to me it's god damned necessary, people should stop hiring phantomcircuit
pankkake: as Gronibard would say, Il est pas carré, il est pas rond, il est ovale mon trou de balle
mircea_popescu: what does "unnecessary" mean in this context ?
mircea_popescu: Goldman Sachs filed with the New York Supreme Court, requesting "emergency relief" to avoid a privacy violation and "avoid the risk of unnecessary reputational damage to Goldman Sachs."
benkay: aren't they due to fold sometime this or next quarter?
benkay: thanks ThickAsThieves
benkay: hey who's the blogger doing really great mining analysis?
mircea_popescu: aren't they basically the start-up predicated on the notion that square made simple geometric shapes bankable ?
ThickAsThieves: then they will release "free" bitocin purchasing
ThickAsThieves: circle is now doing a little media trolling to get attention
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is opaque, otc-driven on top of all of it.
mircea_popescu: now that depends.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin may be volatile, but it isnt like you can just unload 100btc at any price you target
ThickAsThieves: indeed, so far, volume is the hardest thing for me to work with
mircea_popescu: noob traders generally don't understand that the trinity is price, volume, volatility.
mircea_popescu: do the people pamming me have 2k btc ready ?
mircea_popescu: suppose i bet 5 btc on "mp has three heads", then turn around and put 100 on the other side.
mircea_popescu: suppose i notice that any 5 btc i bet is followed by 20 btc in pamm bets.
mircea_popescu: take just one model of an avenue of attack. suppose i have a known bitbet address, which is up 20% to date.
mircea_popescu: it'll prolly work fine for as long as a very small fraction of trades are done this way.
ThickAsThieves: just the sheepness i guess
ThickAsThieves: i dont like them but i cant articulate exactly why
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's a great idea in theory whose greatness in practice depends on not being used.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i tell you honestly that's like the best customer support i've seen to date. you make me fucking proud.
ThickAsThieves: Georgia’s new gun rules kicked in Tuesday, allowing residents to carry firearms into bars, nightclubs, classrooms and government buildings in a measure slammed by anti-weapon activists as a “dangerous kill bill.”
mircea_popescu: what is this law ?
asciilifeform: whatever happened to shootouts being held in specially-designated places.
ThickAsThieves: guncentralize all the things!
ThickAsThieves: On Tuesday, a misunderstanding between two armed men in a convenience store in Georgia led to one man drawing his gun and being arrested on the first day of the “guns everywhere” law.
asciilifeform: 'unknown number of times' << empty magazine in the end
mircea_popescu: you gotta keep in mind we're discussing this country where they have rooms where if anyone screams "freeze" all the adults just.. freeze
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "more than three"
jurov: he threatened the officer with suicide? i see
ThickAsThieves: or counting no longer taught
ThickAsThieves: too many bullet holes to count i guess
ThickAsThieves: "Christian was shot an unknown number of times by a Purcellville police officer"
mircea_popescu: “Why would you shoot a child that is suicidal? You are there to save him, not finish him off.”
mircea_popescu: Virginia High Schooler Threatens Suicide, Police Arrive and Kill Him
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves permanently elevated plateau i say! /// such progress.
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE
BingoBoingo: <chetty> you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table? << of course these people know what a casino is, it's the place they learned how to fly through a door
chetty: Berkeley Requires Marijuana Dispensaries To Provide Free Weed For Low-Income Patients
jurov: where are we in the 1930's script again?
mircea_popescu: ok this is pretty cool.
mp_as_god: how the fuck do you reg and add nicks again ?
mircea_popescu: trying my hand at this entire lyricism thing.
mircea_popescu: well yes. both slow and thick mean dumb :). however, slow is a good fuck and thick a good ass, so...
mircea_popescu: jurov does that also connote she's slow & thick ?
mircea_popescu: random factoid of the day : mongols used to call themselves "tata". the chinese called them daddy. that's the origin of the term, in all its permutations, big daddy and what have you.
mircea_popescu: the guy with the graph
mircea_popescu: i was like... what sort of tatar tribe from 1700 did this guy grow up with
mircea_popescu: o to sink. i read "sink in"
asciilifeform: people still saw it as 'the thing to do'
mircea_popescu: wait what ? that last bit ?
asciilifeform: stalin died, condoms appeared, marriage as SOP didn't really start to sink till the '90s (ussr)
mircea_popescu: hey lambchop, if you're reading this : i've had enough entertainment i'm willing to pay. pick any bitbet you want, i'll put 1 btc in your name on the side of your choice. lemme know.
mircea_popescu: people needed to get other people's wives in their harem.
mircea_popescu: but you see, that was mostly because of the ban on contraception.
asciilifeform: standard term. ask anyone.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: secretary << that wasn't about secretary. that was 'секретутка' - 'secretute'
mircea_popescu: https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2F51tx306hb%2FCapture.jpg&t=541&c=bf37IGAdaIoDqA << ahahha nice one ThickAsThieves
kakobrekla: i know email doesnt have a ban, but i think irc does?
mircea_popescu: how long is this going to take!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69933066 BTC to 11`366 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
benkay: ;;later tell hanbot by choosing bets that, as best can be determined, will be open for around a month at the least. // learned that one myself heh
kakobrekla: thats generous of you mthreat , thanks
mthreat: kakobrekla: the cron was running once per day, I just updated it to run once per hour
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this jersey thing
mike_c: i could've sworn we said it a 100 times yesterday