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davout: i think that in essence, bitbet and the rota have a lot in common
davout: chetty mircea_popescu no because if you do only plastic pipes you can't be forced to install lead pipes
mircea_popescu: or like a computer refusing to multiply anything by 548791114
chetty: ah but that would be like refusing to bake a gay wedding cake, not allowed
mircea_popescu: the plumber quitting his plumbing has zero impact. the plumbing company wil still do the plumbing.
davout: no, that would translate to quit being a plumber, not refuse to serve a particular client because you don't have the correct tools or qualifications
mircea_popescu: what's that change.
Mats_cd03: a jury that can nullify judgments then
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 kinda what the mods are.
davout: yes, the guy who does the plumbing can perfectly throw his hands in the air, refund you, and tell you that in fact he doesn't do lead pipes
mircea_popescu: random fuckwit that can't afford a 400 dollar swimsuit isn't free to "change the way society regards women"
mircea_popescu: army captain ordered to hold a position isn't allowed to change the regimental deployment
mircea_popescu: the guy you hire to do your plumbing isn't allowed to recommend you buy a different house
mircea_popescu: but you understand the general principle of limited review ? such that a judge isn't at liberty to vacate the law for instance. ☟︎
davout: i mean why? say i'm making this bet about this music note being this or that, and poof, i become deaf
davout: fair enough :-) i'm thinking that "not his place to realise such a thing." is side-stepping the issue, and also not
mircea_popescu: a ty
mircea_popescu: cause this "general failure" thing doesn't halp.
Naphex: from their PoV anyone who gives a shit about privacy will be an extremist
mircea_popescu: that's ok, i consider nsa employees child molesters. they're going to jail.
Naphex: most people in those categories are concerned about privacy
assbot: NSA Considers Linux Journal Readers, Tor (And Linux?) Users "Extremists" - Slashdot
mircea_popescu: not his place to realise such a thing.
davout: mircea_popescu: well, what if he genuinely realizes it wasn't correct to assume he'd ever be able to measure salinity? whether he has the certainty that salinity > 0 being irrelevant given the bet conditions
mircea_popescu: should he discover salinity doesn't exist, then it gets cancelled.
mircea_popescu: that's not a realisation the mod can ever reach.
jborkl: building the database, the block chain will be searchable by txid, txcount by block, address, amount and UNIX
assbot: BitBet - Argentina beats Belgium :: 10.06 B (100%) on Yes, 0 B (0%) on No | closing in 2 days 3 hours | weight: 99`770 (100`000 to 10`000)
davout: what if the bet mod realizes he has no way to measure salinity N
mircea_popescu: but if they don't agree if it's salty or sweet, the bet as to which is is ain't getting cancelled.
mircea_popescu: if one group is like "sea is deep" and the other "no, it's salty" idem
mircea_popescu: if you got a group saying "the sea is blue" and another "the sky is azure" this isn't a legitimate dispute. they're not talking of the same thing.
davout: a dispute about the auction price being >x or <x ?
mircea_popescu: that as long as there's a dispute, a bet doesn't get cancelled.
davout: sure, that's why i didn't bet :-)
davout: based on the fact that you have no reliable source for the auction price
davout: i think that a reasonable case can be made for cancellation
mircea_popescu: well no, the guy that was requesting the bet be cancelled.
davout: the guy that was requesting support ?
mircea_popescu: davout sure. but how does that help the arguer's position ?
davout: i think my broader point is that since you don't know what you don't know, it makes sense to define a way to clarify propositions along the way, lest you end up with some rota v2
pankkake: another bitcoin-qt segfault. gotta learn to not click on it too soon
pankkake: i.e. what if buttcoin-central is renamed to gaymium
mike_c: doesn't help to add a 10 page rider to every bet
pankkake: I think davout refers to another bet
mike_c: what clarity is missing? when the bet will resolve? obviously it will resolve when the price is known. if it becomes clear the price will never be known, BB mods will do something appropriate.
davout: but then there's also the question of "where does the lack of clarity stop, and the guy's expectations start"
davout: if you argue that the resolution of bitbets can afford lack of clarity by comparing it to the way the woman of your example lacks clarity you should go all the way
Mats_cd03: benkay: everyone i know with the coiled rattlesnake and/or 'don't tread on me' is ex mil
davout: mircea_popescu: "pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck." <<< if you reason like this, then you should rename it to bitchbet
assbot: BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1 B (100%) on Yes, 0 B (0%) on No | closing in 1 day 4 hours | weight: 99`949 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: should try thias
davout: i hear they send winners spider drawings instead of money
mircea_popescu: davout bet you the krautzes send france home ?
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mircea_popescu: davout i hear nigeria beat you froggers in the wc
mircea_popescu: mostly cause of the club ambiguity
mircea_popescu: Also, newsflash, I can call this rock that I am about to throw a 'club', yet it wont feel like one when it hits your face.
kakobrekla: yes troll sensor also working
assbot: The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: more generally i suppose it being springish again, it's time to revisit last year for the new crop of noobs :
mircea_popescu: it's about a year out of date by now, if you're looking for something to do
assbot: MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: Blazedout419 in case you're still looking for that, http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/
gribble: You rated user ognasty on Fri Jun 13 17:07:59 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: pirate shill ; currently running a security that made a 60% loss over two years. a fine example of the scum that unwarrantedly imagines itself somehow part of Bitcoin..
mircea_popescu: lmao that fuckwit seriously has the gall to argue4 that stealing people's bitcoins over time is okay ?
mircea_popescu: You mean the same accounting that is used by every single financial regulatory agency in the world?
asciilifeform: hookerchain prevents this.
kakobrekla: >(gold, real estate, bread, hookers, all would be better measures of value over time than Bitcoin)
mircea_popescu: more like this-is-retarded-bitch-hour
mircea_popescu: dude lmao. "we american women" ? who's this lol
mircea_popescu: "We American women think of the swarthy type as a dark-skinned (not black), exotic, intense type of man."
benkay: hey thestringpuller lets get you inked
mircea_popescu: so get a black guy and get the tattoo on him.
benkay: "In short, Italian men are swarthy. And when someone says that, it's usually not with a shudder, but a shiver.
benkay: my skin's not dark enough for that to look at all good
benkay: also this: http://www.revolutionary-war.net/image-files/deic-logo.png
benkay: probably just the snake.
benkay: i think i'm going to get a "don't tread on me" tattoo
mircea_popescu: still the best mkt depth visualisation there is imo
assbot: Vizualizarea datelor : Market depth pentru bitcoini pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: Expropriation Is Back - Is Christine Lagarde The Most Dangerous Woman In The World? | Zero Hedge
asciilifeform: from the loltron: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/expropriation-back-christine-lagarde-most-dangerous-woman-world
ThickAsThieves: it's where the airport is
ThickAsThieves: points to forum, some dude saying he got Danny's Gox Bankruptcy mail
assbot: Danny Brewster (NEO&BEE) rumored to be in Larnaca, Greece by post office worker https://t.co/bos2fyOzAM
ThickAsThieves: zeroblock made a random neo tweet today
ThickAsThieves: did they ever find that Malaysian plane?
mircea_popescu: where is that sketch
kakobrekla: meh fuck you trolls.
mircea_popescu: oh, ocean cops ? i hear bad things about their sirens.
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mircea_popescu: different phone numbers have different amounts in them
kakobrekla: different things work in different places
Dalrymple: I met one person who would look for gullibles and offer to loan them some equipment and oversee their grow, it meant he'd get a cut and it wouldn't take place on his property, also he knew the connects to sell it in bulk
Dalrymple: It's not something I'd ever want to do, and the people who do it often get violently extorted if they aren't caught by the police
kakobrekla: and they dont give fuck for losing a few kw
kakobrekla: i know for a fact that they lose megawatts in the air here
Dalrymple: In the UK a lot of people are caught due to stealing power