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assbot: BitBet - Argentina beats Belgium :: 11.06 B (64%) on Yes, 6.27 B (36%) on No | closing in 2 days 2 hours | weight: 96`953 (100`000 to 10`000)
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/988/argentina-beats-belgium/ << someone dump this on reddit btw ? im kinda fond of the description
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo match made in heaven huh ? i saw this film cca 1940, back when cagney was the fronteer ruffian and whoever the fuck was the boston damsel
punkman: bet the other guy is butthurt
punkman: oh there's a comment, never mind
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin volatility August over $200 :: 0.19 B (78%) on Yes, 0.06 B (22%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 weeks | weight: 98`203 (100`000 to 1)
punkman: punkman: http://bitbet.us/bet/983/bitcoin-volatility-august-over-200/ <- links to http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^GSPC
[]bot: Bet placed: 3.355 BTC for No on "Krautzes send France home" http://bitbet.us/bet/987/ Odds: 56(Y):44(N) by coin, 56(Y):44(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.60838675 BTC. Current weight: 93,229.
mircea_popescu: the author sounds like a butthurt artsy chick upset that money exists.
BingoBoingo: "they ultimately signed a five-year lease for $31,667 a month in rent (plus $564 in fees)—more than six times the amount the arts collective had been previously paying." When you get taken that badly by a LANDLORD in a negotiation, maybe business isn't the right line of work for you. Disgraceful.
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mircea_popescu: how is this possible!
mircea_popescu: Bloodhound had everything going for it. TechCrunch once hailed the tradeshow app as "genius" and Peter Thiel lead a $3 million investment round in the "blowing up" company.
mircea_popescu: says scammer getting ripped a new one in a thread dedicated to how he's lost people's btc
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin is not the unit of account, as you are not held accountable for that unit by anyone."
assbot: How Quickly a "Genius" Startup Can Tank
mircea_popescu: without being stuck sending bw to EVERYONE all the time
mircea_popescu: then again you can prolly optimise the distribution a little, and preserve the "no meta" value of the original broadcast design
asciilifeform: saturation is the only real pill against traffic analysis.
trinque: mircea_popescu: that's basically what I was thinking in terms of a p2p filesharing app recently
mircea_popescu: whether you send text or it just pads with noise... no difference. it sends 1kbps
mircea_popescu: guarantees 1kbps of text.
trinque: mircea_popescu: that's interesting
asciilifeform: (if someone wants to buy a chinese 'turdano' - its own punishment.)
mircea_popescu: that constantly sends the same debit to everyone.
asciilifeform: benkay: it is a very simple design based on johnson noise. -- plus, the entire design will be published in excruciating detail.
trinque: the hard part would be getting enough people to use it for it to matter
asciilifeform: benkay: there is nothing especially secret about the rng.
mircea_popescu: davout there's an ambiguity between "mods" here. BitBet Mod in red on the site is merely the official position of bitbet.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 641.64, Best ask: 643.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.34000, Last trade: 641.62, 24 hour volume: 4768.02134696, 24 hour low: 638.79, 24 hour high: 652.79, 24 hour vwap: 646.281389953
davout: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#742364 <<< but this? ☝︎
benkay: <trinque> benkay: somebody should write something that saturates idle connections with encrypted dummy data // any bored programmers want to irritate the NSA? trinque's full of good ideas today
davout: mircea_popescu: "Irrespective of what the close date says, bets made after half time will be refunded." <<< not to nitpick, but now mods can redefine bets? :D
mircea_popescu: artifexd well i just noticed the france bet went from 2ish to 7ish on one side
mircea_popescu: davout aditional time is like, up i nthe air :D
artifexd: Not that I see.
mircea_popescu: artifexd a 5btc bet just went through no ?
davout: argh, i liked the "say 'deal', spit on the ground" approach :D
davout: so that is 1 confirmation before 45 minutes + additionnal time
assbot: BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 7.06 B (77%) on Yes, 2.14 B (23%) on No | closing in 1 day 2 hours | weight: 94`539 (100`000 to 1)
davout: so technically, before the match is ended i can bet at anytime
assbot: Rolling Coal: Conservatives who show their annoyance with liberals, Obama, and the EPA by blowing black smoke from their trucks.
benkay: in other news, i've learned that having the hairline trimmed into symmetry is a horrible idea.
assbot: BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 2.06 B (49%) on Yes, 2.14 B (51%) on No | closing in 1 day 2 hours | weight: 94`609 (100`000 to 1)
davout: mircea_popescu: according to bitbet rules and closing dates i can cancel my bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/ until the last minute of the match right?
artifexd: As her creator, I refer to her as such. And thus, yes.
jborkl: 90000 blocks through the rebuilt blockchain and I am at 25MB
mircea_popescu: artifexd somehow []bot is missing out on all the bitbet excitement lol
mircea_popescu: wow shit look at that, someone covered the krautz bet.
davout: CECI DIT, IL EST TRES RAPIDE!
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davout: as a sidenote, the whole "service is shitty, but it's fast!" has been a thing in france for the last 20 years
mircea_popescu: i don;t know many algerians with btc to bitch at
mircea_popescu: nah that'd have sucked
mircea_popescu: hanbot was like "o why are you so mean ?! wait, this is davout ? nm, be as mean as you wish!"
mircea_popescu: well... not this one
assbot: The reason you can’t have nice numbers and other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
davout: i'm starting to suspect that this france vs germany bet is going to get bigger than the berkshire one
mircea_popescu: the only thing france wins is buttruining on pikes marathon
mircea_popescu: davout tough
mike_c: kako can turn off the logger
kyuupichan: mike_c: Not sure I remember most of it. I'd rather it remained private though.
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: where's the post detailing cardano rng construction?
BingoBoingo: mike_c: The irony is once again the bombs seem to be setting themselves up for failure
davout: mircea_popescu: BUT WHAT IF THERE'S ANOTHER MATCH 58 FR vs DE IN THE WC OF SOME UNRELATED SPORT ??
mircea_popescu: kyuupichan yeah prolly going out today.
kyuupichan: The disconnect between the two is unfortunate
BingoBoingo: Omg someone is trying to unkill of of my death with bombs!!!
kyuupichan: The explanatory text is clearly "by". "On or before".
kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: But it's already happened no? Other bets are resolved early if they happen.
mike_c: kyuupichan: what was this mystery mpex conversation you had with daniel?
chetty: Many people would rather inflict pain on themselves than spend 15 minutes in a room with nothing to do but think
kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: Is the Bastille bet considered controversial? Or mods just got bored of resolving bets y/day?
mircea_popescu: eh what the heck, im so overconfident i just put another 1 btc. so there.
mircea_popescu: well ok, lem me know when you're in and ill cover to even odds
assbot: BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1.06 B (88%) on Yes, 0.14 B (12%) on No | closing in 1 day 3 hours | weight: 96`594 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: davout http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/#b4 that you ?
mircea_popescu: something like that
cgcardona: top of tha mornin sir
cgcardona tips hat to MP
mircea_popescu: they failed to understand it in practice, but this is because people are often lazy, and that's exactly how things like bitcoin can get killed in 2010.
mircea_popescu: mike_c i suspect that's perhaps stretching a point. rota judges did make a salary, and had a deeply vested interest in making th emodel work.
davout: i mean it makes no sense to try and decide whether secrecy is a better model than non-secrecy
mircea_popescu: what's sort mean and who's them.
davout: ok, so basically makes no sense to sort them
mircea_popescu: suppose there's an apple tree and a potato. now, you ask me how is a pomme better than a pomme du terre. nfi man, i just know they're opposite.
davout: mircea_popescu: so the advantage of secrecy is undecided
davout: mike_c: true
Apocalyptic: kinda reminds me of the venetian rulers
mike_c: rota did not need to decide things for the good of rota. bitbet has a vested interest in making good decisions.
davout: but there's also the "make a sovereign decision about the resolution conditions uncertainty that came to light after acceptation but before resoltuion"
mircea_popescu: davout anon mods deliberating in secret. exact opposite of the "citizenship judge" rota model
davout: because basically, there's the "evaluate outcome according to environment and bet specs" part of bitbet
davout: so, how does it manage to avoid the shortcomings of the rota?
davout: but i spent some time thinking about this while driving
davout: mircea_popescu: yeah well, i haven't ordered the ba logs paperback yet :-)
mircea_popescu: i think i even said as much in the logs, months ago