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BingoBoingo: I don't see what's wrong with calling it a college and graduating it to University once 1+ graduates have the credentials to propose new faculties to the college
diana_coman: but onth since I'm filtering the sea, I want some place where all the sea goes through
BingoBoingo: Most of the other folks I met here that share a common language with me pattern match Buenos Aires=Bigger=Better
diana_coman: in any case, my puzzle there is whether it's worth making even such concession at all; I'm normally not inclined and I'd say it's on them if they are dumb enough to not go in because it doesn't say incubator;
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: lolz; it's the "familiar" word for students though, basically pattern-matches what they expect, to have them cross the threshold (so that in all probability I have to kick 99% out after that, but such is filtering by def)
BingoBoingo: God no, I haven't seen a startup incubator that doesn't smell like the sump in my HS locker room.
diana_coman: I have been seriously pondering if I need for YoungHands to actually get a physical space to call "incubator" /similar since apparently that's the magic word that wards off evil or something.
mircea_popescu: so i'd say ~time to get crackin',
mircea_popescu: (to be perfectly clear : http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/?b=Logotron&e=#select is what i meant by "thing 1".
mircea_popescu: not intentionally an' not deliberately and not awaredly nor am i out for heads. but the situation is indeed like the case where someone just discovered the impact of filth on medicine, and everyone (by which we mean the top whatever %) understood what the theory is, and for their merits gets now to struggle with expellas issues forever.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 02:15:03 mp_en_viaje: in general, fwis, it's ~always much better to do the "use apache for threading and fs-as-cache" model than anything else. but then again i'm not the hacker, don't let me keep you from your destiny.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 16:35:05 diana_coman: I've finally got around to making the changes from http://trilema.com/2019/proper-html-linking-the-crisis-the-solution-the-resolution-conclusion/ and it works wonderfully! e.g. http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/?b=Logotron&e=#select
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:44:57 trinque: the IRC-for-input and www-for-output split was contemplated in an old thread. I still like it
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934283 << and i still don't think there's anything wrong with it. website offering search box not necessity. if bot does, all is well.
mircea_popescu: good thing we talk of flaks, that's important. comparatively, i can't argue, WAY yhe fuck more important. hurr.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:16:07 asciilifeform: i'm not about to ask folx to learn it tho ( asciilifeform in fact quite fond of forth, and used extensively. but i also recognize that to most people utterly 'martian' )
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934318 - IF it's so good, I'd gladly learn ANY martian.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the argument is utterly fucking broken. "get out ; now" "oh but mp, can i stay longer ? it's totally worth it, make so much $$$" "huh, i guess..." "but mp... make no $$$, whay!" "because you're fucked in the head. goto 1."
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 13:41:15 asciilifeform: hey diana_coman , didja ever manually test the reconnector? i -- did; but from lobbes's bot i have dark suspicion that it doesn't 100% work !!
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934178 - did not test but apparently bot tested it so I'll have at least one data point to look at when I get to it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:37:26 trinque: bv wishes not to be raised, and I shan't press the issue further.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934268 << ok, so did you also inherit the code/domain etc ? or should i rush through some replacements, eg spyked's imgpaster ? or what here ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:30:29 asciilifeform: i wonder whether in fact died. left without any goodbye -- and his www is frozen exactly as it was
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934254 << i think there's so much shame / self-loathing necessarily (and, for that matter, correctly) naturally associated by the mind with leaving here, i dinf it unsurprising dudes leave quietly.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 01:48:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934227 << i propose we give it a rest for nao, and upgrade / improve later if need to on basis of experience.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934468 << ha! fewer things to do! i aint about to protest.
asciilifeform: iirc phf suggested a fix, but i have not tested yet
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:23:35 trinque: I was by no means a lisp expert when I wrote the item, so in re: languages thread, I don't think it should reflect on CL
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 15:52:16 asciilifeform: i'ma see what mircea_popescu says when wakes up.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934227 << i propose we give it a rest for nao, and upgrade / improve later if need to on basis of experience.
mircea_popescu: i guess patch on top.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 15:30:33 bvt: i did not switch to the newer keccak code, as this would not solve underlying issue: vdiff would still crash with large files, just the limit would be 8x larger
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934214 < <fixed meanwhiles i see ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 15:17:27 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934123 <-- huh, whaddaya know, that was the problem! ty, diana_coman! unfortunately baking a patch isn't as simple as "vdiff a b", because sbcl comes with binaries included. :| will get to this when I'm back home
mircea_popescu: (though i suppose it's a wonderment whether anyone thought eg http://trilema.com/2018/lord-mp-of-tmsr-and-the-plebeian-princess-club/ similarily depicts "camera shy hanbot". in duplicate -- one's been tanning for a half year.
mircea_popescu: anyway, biosacks only need names if they're about to log here. both hanbot an' nicoleci are on, and so far what you lot wanna use them for is rather punching bags, from experience, so i don't see the urgency in naming anyone else.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 09:57:25 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931848 << this character mentioned 4 or 5 times recently... but does it have a name ? ( i admit, when 1st saw picture, assumed it was a young photo-shy hanbot )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931863 << keks, so what, i been talking of harems &c for a decade+, yet peeps been just assuming i'm fantasizing or something ?
mircea_popescu: (meh, i obviously mean D = W/t).
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 04:34:33 spyked: magemagick (what I believe mp-wp uses currently?) or gimp batch processer; regardless of what is to be used, the tools *are already there*, it's the user's problem how or what he uses. I for one don't wanna use web interface for photo processing, nor did I ever intend to add this to thetarpit, nor would I stop anyone from adding them if they wish
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934071 << about to head to bed, but tomorrow morning I'm gonna do some deep log spelunking and investigating and report findings in a blog post.
asciilifeform: trinque: i'ma also bbl. food, sleep...
trinque: I'm gonna go chase a girl around the house a bit, bbl
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-31 23:58:52 asciilifeform: (i.e. it is in fact possible to fleanode with hands! via telnet)
asciilifeform: trinque: i found , when experimented, that you have just about half minute! to answer their ping
trinque: and I was using chat.freenode.net, and lo, the bot was better connected in certain sessions than others.
trinque: to freenode, I'd be willing to wager
asciilifeform: ( i imagine ping from asia, ~decreased~ neh )
trinque: god, unrelatedly, it suddenly becomes clear that when I moved deedbot to singapore, I increased his ping.
asciilifeform: after http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934226 is put to rest, i'ma leave the logger alone, unless someone finds catastrophic problem .
asciilifeform: trinque: it is. tho i lost more than month (not counting the entirely pointless expedition of 'M', then could say lost 3mo ! )
trinque: I'm just glad to hear it's still on teh conveyor
asciilifeform: i.e. even answering the feasibility q is likely to be quite expensive.
asciilifeform: whole thread nearly borders on sin, given as almost anyffin i say on the subj is likely to be catastrophically wrong.
asciilifeform: i certainly wouldn't invite anyone to pay to build such space station until thoroughly familiar with working example 'in soft'
trinque: I'd just want to know who we're selling to. ourselves isn't enough
asciilifeform: i'ma get it to the point where does the job orig. promised. but 'unsinkable network battleship' will have to wait for actual irons , as i understand .
trinque: I have been enamored of this idea since the first mircea_popescu and asciilifeform threads on same.
asciilifeform: trinque: it would indeed 'cut world', in the sense that gives you a gossiptronic net fully layered over the traditional one. and with dozen+ entrance boxen, suddenly impossible to effectively ddos anything on the inner (i.e. what comes out of the 2nd plug) world.
trinque: I wouldn't propose building the thing without first identifying the market.
asciilifeform: i'm inclined to agree. but possibly asciilifeform is that last one who oughta talk about 'what has market', asciilifeform also thought FG had mega-market waiting.
asciilifeform: i proposed it in '16 as a 'gateway' into gossipnet. ( eats packets at line rate, emits from 2nd nic hole the ones that were found edible. )
trinque: this cuts the world enough to be useful, unless I'm stupid
asciilifeform: aha. tho presently i doubt that it's physically possible to make a 4096x4096b multiplier converge in <1ns
asciilifeform: this figure for e.g. 65nm . i.e. ~gz or so, realistically.
asciilifeform: trinque: so, actual honest iron ? 1-2mil transistors. i.e. coupla 100k $ for 1st tray, and afterwards a few cents ea. if baked in qty. as you might expect.
trinque: i.e. inside I have w/e, naked women, dancing bears, there's a membrane at the edge of my lair run by the ??? in question
asciilifeform: i can maybe answer the q, if it is made very, very concrete.
trinque: I mean peh specifically
asciilifeform: i'm not about to ask folx to learn it tho ( asciilifeform in fact quite fond of forth, and used extensively. but i also recognize that to most people utterly 'martian' )
asciilifeform: well i was genuinely curious. for all i knew, lighter
trinque: I'm not arguing for php, feeling around for method
asciilifeform: trinque: i went to look at what is php made from ( given all the prodding by mircea_popescu ) and seems to weigh at least as much as the python toolchain
asciilifeform: right. was explaining why i did not see it as a workable cut when wrote mine.
trinque: sure, I'm not trying to take it away
asciilifeform: and that can search from www, without cluttering chans ( my bot doesn't do PM and i intend to keep it that way )
asciilifeform: i like that search links from arbitrarily long ago are clickable and human-readable.
asciilifeform: this obv. worx in some applications. but i dun grasp how one would implement e.g. searchable log, this way
trinque: the IRC-for-input and www-for-output split was contemplated in an old thread. I still like it
trinque: on wot.deedbot.org I don't. it's a cut-of-the-knot approach
trinque: on the subj of CL webtrons, the approach I've used is to have the CL proggie write static html (from another place, even) to a toilet static www server.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 04:29:58 spyked: hat's the usefulness in the end if I'm not gonna do anything productive with it?
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934003 << this is I think the subcurrent here.
trinque: obviously a circumstance I'd like to see remedied.
trinque: bv wishes not to be raised, and I shan't press the issue further.
trinque: I was just thinking of doing a few pasters, in light of the current paster not looking so good.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 01:18:37 lobbes: I think, in general, it makes sense for me to chew through the logotron "todo" list right now. I would eventually like to get a php version of the reader.py written for purposes of comparison.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1933983 << I think this kind of comparison is exactly what's needed.
asciilifeform: i wish folx would get into the habit of fucking posting their barf
trinque: as I say to folks all the time BAD BUG REPORT
asciilifeform: trinque: the vtron may be buggy tho. ( i haven't tried personally however )
asciilifeform: i wonder whether in fact died. left without any goodbye -- and his www is frozen exactly as it was
asciilifeform: meanwhile in entirely unrelated bizarre : i obtained from a junk seller, what appears to be an orcish serial port card made at РФЯЦ – ВНИИТФ . the famous fortified city. at some pt will make photo-reportage re internals. oughta be interesting from 'how did folx who actually Gave A Shit build their irons?' archaeological pov.
trinque: but you know, learning is a thing. at any rate, I'm probably going to muntz a tad further and vpatch this weekend.
asciilifeform: trinque: i recall sewing 'pehbot' from it, found it a little overengineered (e.g. oopized)
trinque: I was by no means a lisp expert when I wrote the item, so in re: languages thread, I don't think it should reflect on CL
trinque: then there's some threadism weird that I solved by lopping off, where an exception wasn't handled properly and the thread died, rest remained.
asciilifeform: trinque: i suspect the latter rather
trinque: in all honesty I think I misunderstood IRC, pinging from client was implemented, responding to pings entirely not.
asciilifeform: trinque: i was curious specifically re reconnector, in light of lobbes earlier