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mircea_popescu: lobbes, upon deliberation, i really dun wanna get us-sider servers, fuck tghat dumb shit.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-14 06:05:06 mircea_popescu: dorion, you know, your article skips over the most interesting parts. i can sorta-kinda fill in a sentence like "The bank prevented us from dealing directly with clients in our country of residence 2 as the brokers were never required to obtain any sort of securities license." thus curing it into standing ; but i suspect i might be the ~only one.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-14#1951170 - I certainly couldn't fill that in and it did precisely pop up while reading, precisely this sentence; I suspect dorion needs more practice defining some manageable scope & focus for one article.
diana_coman: other than that the dc itself & tech side, it all looked quite good really; a rather pleasant thing to see all things in their place and ordered and properly provisioned and all that; but myeah.
diana_coman: anyways; I have pics and I'll still write up the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: aite. i'm a get the e5 then
diana_coman: where "me" by that stage was clearly not just me personally.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: myeah but what can I say; fwiw I didn't hold much back eg directly told him that ahem, I can see how it's "convenient" for them but that sort of convenience has a cost and moreover it's totally inconvenient for me.
mircea_popescu: when i say "the great success of lamp", i mean things quite like ^
mircea_popescu: stupid thing to "build a business around", but w/e.
diana_coman: essentially I'd need to fully interface there
diana_coman: 2. payment in gbp and invoicing with all their bells and whistles
diana_coman: on the negative side, they are totally married to 1. their account-on-website system because, quote "I've built the business around this"
diana_coman: I just came back from the dc visit too; on the plus side, they are still small enough to be able to get to know them and they seem reasonably interested/able to actually have a conversation;
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, did the whatever you were trying locally die ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951120 - currently I would go with the e5-2620; not only on larger ram & more threads aspect but also because looking at what is available otherwise, it seems to me that this at least hits on the "widely available" even more than the e3, esp in the longer term; fwiw yest I looked at what servers I could source here as well and sourcing AMDs seems to be mainly an American thing.
mircea_popescu: dorion, you know, your article skips over the most interesting parts. i can sorta-kinda fill in a sentence like "The bank prevented us from dealing directly with clients in our country of residence 2 as the brokers were never required to obtain any sort of securities license." thus curing it into standing ; but i suspect i might be the ~only one.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in glorious timewastes, space arena! never was the true substance&tragedy of design as a cvasi-rational process so well captured in so little trapping! rarely will one find such a gem of a game, either! it's purrrfect.
mircea_popescu: bvt, me too.
bvt: re tmsr os - i am curious what work plan trinque will come up with, esp wrt static linking.
bvt: ty, i guess after the article it will become possible to decide what to use for each of the hashes; after that one more patch - user-settable key for hashing, and rng work will be done
mircea_popescu: i'm really excited about this!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 22:03:27 mircea_popescu: bvt, once done fixing the kernel rng, you wana join in this fray by the way ?
bvt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950799 << yes, sure. the article with measurements will definitely come tomorrow -- most of it is written, measurents - finished, bugs - fixed.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/jasons-folding/ << Trilema -- Jason's folding.
BingoBoingo: In local news, the day of the last Presidential debate... The Argentina's president-elect came for a big photo shoot with Uruguay's sitting president and the Fat Forehead nominee. I am having serious trouble conceiving a situation where the commies aren't trying to throw the contest.
BingoBoingo priviledged the deedbot returned ledgers and invoice statements over the notes in mathing, though everything was math'd. Repeatedly. Still I admit the room for error to creep in when doing math on calulator and will entertain claims, but preferably sooner instead of later.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: You're welcome and thank you for checking.
diana_coman: it's ok, now I see where I had it wrong, got confused re start/end on the RK; it's fine as it is, thank you BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: But yes, everyone got prorated by time to figure out their customer equity.
BingoBoingo: I split all of mircea_popescu_popescu's things for their being used for different ventures, wasn't sure if anyone else wanted that in the paying out.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, on the basis of smg experience, he prorated by time
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: alternatively if you can point me directly to how you calculated http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950906, it would even save some time.
BingoBoingo: And the spew's been silenced
BingoBoingo: Well, I didn't think so, but I'll give it some minutes now that I know someone else is trying to read it.
mircea_popescu: hardly worth the bother huh
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right, I put in on the 'anyserver' but haven't done any tweaks to it other than making it clear the operation is closed/closing. I'll give it a couple minutes and see if I can silence the spew.
BingoBoingo: Even down here the little shim for converting laptop optical disc bays into generic 2.5" SATA drive bays are common enough finding one wasn't a headache
mircea_popescu: srsly, this can't become a problem.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 21:58:37 trinque: if that's possible, it opens up kids throwing the thing into w/e school computer, like we used to do with quake back in the day.
mircea_popescu: ayer to buy a 256gb one or w/e. or alternatively... to only save the MOST USED 32 gb.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1951034 << the more i think about this, the less a problem i perceive. i mean, nobody even uses cd boot anymore, they do the hybrid thing so you can use the image on sticks too. well... there's 32gb sticks for ~free, you just set it with a data partition and that's that. in the very unlikely case someone actually has enough artwork to fill 32gb, um... you just tell the pl
mircea_popescu still wants eulora prod server sorted this week.
mircea_popescu: ok so then ima put this on ice for a few.
diana_coman: I'll take my camera tomorrow and hopefully find some time in the evening to blog it up too
diana_coman: at the end of the day, if I get a rack or whatevers next to me, I can just as well plonk a server in there
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: hm, listen, can this wait until I meet those dc guys tomorrow?
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much all e3/e5. i could perhaps squeeze a celeron if pressed, but there's no amds.
mircea_popescu: you gotta tell me.
diana_coman: that's the thing, that I'm not sure that it makes all that big difference really esp atm.
mircea_popescu: they're intels tho.
diana_coman: myeah, I was just having a look at the specs
mircea_popescu: the latter has significant larger ram aperture (3x the speed, 16x the address space) and significantly more threads possibly (24 vs 8)
diana_coman: a lot of the deps there are not fully mandatory in that if one wants, one can run the client anyway but at the extreme this goes to "well, if one WANTS TO, one can make their own bloody text client already and run that"
mircea_popescu: and we intend to muchly broaden the extant gfx basis anyway, hence all these self-curing client genuflexions
diana_coman: fwiw I actually ran it without that toolkit but the resulting quality of graphics is visibly low.
mircea_popescu has 0 problem saying "oh, eulora only works on nvidia" or w/e limiting in this vein.
mircea_popescu: also, an attempt at a static nvidia-toolkit would be interesting regardless of results. afaik nobody even tried to any significant degree
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-13 05:05:55 spyked: ftr, I was considering doing my initial cuntoo boostrapper install on a qemu. I've gotten disk images and kernels prepped for that environment in the past, it's pretty easy due to the absence of odd vendor-specific drivers. this is probably not appropriate for gfx work though.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-13 05:03:13 spyked: testing, or maybe get some sort of remote kvm access installed.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951098 << that's silly. can't jus ttake the laptop over with you ?
mircea_popescu: most high level tasks are "5 minutes' worth of not being fucking stupid"
mircea_popescu: a LOT can be accomplished in ten hours, provided one doesn't pay any being an engineer rents with them.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-13 04:54:57 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950779 <-- around 10 hrs, plus-minus 2. it's not much time, but I aim to, as much as possible, stick to that 10hrs/week figure and properly break down/manage the tasks I can fit into this time.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951092 << i think it's plenty.
diana_coman: spyked: the eulora client build guides are still up to date, yes.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 21:56:47 trinque: k, so this is little else than creating a signed tarball of the cuntoo bootstrapper's output, and building a livecd/usb that can unpack that item onto a fresh system, bundled with some driver firmware and a try-all-modules kernel.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1951029 <-- just to be as pedantic as possible: plus all the deps needed to run the eulora client. from what I understand, would have to produce static builds of these, which touches new ground. not sure if e.g. http://www.eulorum.org/Gentoo is up to date, but we'd be the first to attempt doing a static build of nvidia-toolkit.
spyked: ^ imho would be worth doing this either way, if only because my familiarity with cuntoo so far is limited to reading the bootstrapper scripts.
spyked: ftr, I was considering doing my initial cuntoo boostrapper install on a qemu. I've gotten disk images and kernels prepped for that environment in the past, it's pretty easy due to the absence of odd vendor-specific drivers. this is probably not appropriate for gfx work though.
spyked: testing, or maybe get some sort of remote kvm access installed.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 22:47:54 trinque: spyked: what about you, have a usable GPU?
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1951078 <-- I have an old thinkpad with an intel 3000 (works decently for games that don't ask for the latest shaders & crap) and perhaps I could get my hands on other GPUs. the problematic point is that I'm spending a considerable portion of that allocated 10hrs in saeculum, without physical access to the hardware. so would have to work out some routine for
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 22:22:17 trinque: I'd like to approach this in phases, documentation preceding every phase's work product.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1951050 <-- this sounds more than reasonable to me
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 17:55:51 mircea_popescu: spyked, what sorta time could you commit on a weekly basis, if this tmsr os megaproject actually gets going ?
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950779 <-- around 10 hrs, plus-minus 2. it's not much time, but I aim to, as much as possible, stick to that 10hrs/week figure and properly break down/manage the tasks I can fit into this time.
diana_coman: other than that, great to read a trinque-heavy log for once, ha.
diana_coman: even better, just publish the damned thing already, will you?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 03:53:35 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trinque/2019-11-03#1000013 - any eta on this?
diana_coman: trinque: ask me if there's any info you need from me; and are you going to answer this century re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950568 ?
lobbes: mircea_popescu: nice bug findin'. I'll make sure it is rolled into the patch
lobbes: I'm aiming to get remainder of mp-wp logger complete in under two weeks. Then rest of Nov I want to tidy up auctionbot. So Dec 1st should be a good starting point for me
mircea_popescu: the first lol, i'm not dragging the whole mp-wp logger on forever.
trinque: but I want to know who wants to eat the thing with me, and start talking to them on a regular basis.
trinque: I don't want to burn anything out. I think it's upon me to specify this thing, receive feedback, and then delegate tasks.
lobbes: Not that I can't start chewing on things early, of course
lobbes: trinque: I also want to make sure you know that I still have some items to knock out this month before I can devote full focus, but starting in December I should be ready to roll
lobbes: and ty btw, for this opportunity
trinque: lobbes: if you have that GPU someone else will also, eh?
mircea_popescu: plus i don't remember you throwing a hissy fit for no apparent reason
lobbes: trinque: I might have one. How do I determine decency of gpu in this context?
lobbes: just to be clear, my I believe role in this thing (at least to start) should be at the bottom of the totem pole. I have much to learn still but am willing to work. Though I will need management on what exactly to work on. I don't think I even could have conducted the client interviews on the level trinque (or jfw, for that matter) did. I simply do not have enough experience yet
trinque: more the merrier, to a point. so long as it's *directed* effort
lobbes: trinque: I am around (and have been following the conversation)
trinque strains, yet tits do not erupt
mircea_popescu: potentially there's a good half dozen hands here, if ave1 & bvt can be seduced into it.
trinque: sounds like not very sophisticated clients, not that I'm throwing shade at your hustle jfw
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 16:59:38 jfw: dorion and I have a few consulting clients that are learning linux/unix for the first time. We use the distribution ourselves for niches it's able to fill, and we considered it a good learning environment due to avoiding various complexities
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950667 << seems like there's a lot of overlap, yes