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mircea_popescu: and it has
this major make/destroy inequality baked in,
to cherry on
top.
mircea_popescu: dub more's
to it. as i explained
to asciilifeform a while ago, it actually makes it impossible
to be evil in raport
to it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
time has compressed since
then.
their ability
to hold out had a lot
to do with
the difficulty of seafaring
then, and lack of satellites.
dub: you are
talking about zealots and morons
dub: well, if you are presuming some kind of economic principle would come
to your rescue, im sorry
mircea_popescu: whatever you may
think of
the matter, bitcoin was never in
the hands of
THOSE 3 people.
mircea_popescu: modern science has not yet found a way
to shove it back into
the womb.
dub: bitcoin was in
the hands of 3 people
dub: for it was
the point where I was closest
to losing
trust in
the system
dub: so right
there, a 90% mining cabal
dub: the scary
thing about lukes altbashing was
that, at
the
time
tycho and eutheria were cheerleading for him
mircea_popescu: compared
to
this, user derpage and luser derpage on -dev is about as relevant as fairies in
the spring rain.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has been enacted by
the fiat of a few important people, a few years ago, exactly in
the same manner.
they weren't
THAT important as a % of
the world, but
that doesn't matter : bitcoin can't be un-enacted by
the fiat of much larger entities. it has a cost of x
to make and 1mn x aren't enough
to undo it.
mircea_popescu: this is
the situation o nthe field : one has NO FUCKING CHOICE.
this is how bitcoin works, and why it wins out.
mircea_popescu: or keep
them, in which case it's actually making
the coin more valuable.
mircea_popescu: that entity can either sell
the coins it mines, in which case
they end up with me, which is what i want anyway
dub: you dont want
to look
through
that window either
mircea_popescu: so : atc is not driven by "user adoption". it's driven by
the fact
that i'm buying it. in
this context, if "evil" entity decides
to just mine all
the blocks, nobody gives a shit. so
txn aren't included ? whatever.
mircea_popescu: this situation actually allows a window be
thrown into bitcoin,
to understand how it works. jesus atc is useful, props
tat.
dub: is
that a chain hopping pool
though or atc dedi?
mircea_popescu: 03-07-2014 01:50:42 <atcbot> [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02
TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 14243.64 GH/s <<
this is
the peak
this month.
dub: you sure? at a glance
the diff doesnt look right
mircea_popescu: so if you add 8th from elegius
that's what, 60% for luke, provided nobody else joins.
mircea_popescu: dub but
there's ALREADY 5
th on board, and
these are atc dedicated,
they're not merge mining.
dub: you'd need
to get 'good' pools on board
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.00
TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 5152.05 GH/s
dub: he has 99% of
the network, no other miners get
to play
mircea_popescu: i don't get how
this is supposed
to work. so he mines and doesn't include
txn
dub: because his goal is/was
to stamp out altcoins
dub: with iocoin (maybe ix
too) he just mined
the longest chain and didnt include any
transactions
benkay: "kill your chain" what do you mean by
this?
dub: rule of
thumb, be bigger
than eligius
dub: he (and atm any number of miners) will kill your chain if you
turn on merged
thickasthieves: he means you dont wanna give bigger miners an easy excuse
to fork ATC
benkay: <dub> you want
to be at least bigger
than whatever Luke-Jr can steal before enabling mm // pardon?
dub: you want
to be at least bigger
than whatever Luke-Jr can steal before enabling mm
thickasthieves: <+benkay>
thickasthieves: is atc a merge-mine
thing? /// no, but i
think it could be, and if it is, i might be willing
to put some funds
towards
the dev, but no one wants my money so far
benkay: is
there a hashpower command?
mthreat: i've been meaning
to check out
that bar
benkay: say hi
to diego for me mthreat
dub: week since
the last update
benkay: thickasthieves: is atc a merge-mine
thing?
FabianB: mircea_popescu: ah ic, bitcoin
taking summer vacation :)
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mircea_popescu: FabianB he said he's
travelling and
the bot croaked, can't
touch
till he's back
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Fairlay: I guess we are addressing more
the new user
that have never heard of WOT - since
the old seems
to be happy with bitbet
mircea_popescu: Fairlay you know, it may be a good idea
to get in
the wot.
Fairlay: ok -
than sorry again and goodbye
Fairlay: googled for Fairlay and found it in
this history here
Fairlay: just wanted
to apologize for user posting links
to Fairlay on Bitbet
moiety: :D i
thought it was so funny
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mircea_popescu: dude
this entire bitcoin-assets system with its
tools is
turning me into a fucking singularity, im like brain on steroids.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't read
the comments yet, but I wonder how many read it as a proposal for linux developments as opposed
to IBM advertorial
mircea_popescu: decimation here's more. sha1 is implemented as "sha1sum". sha256 however is implemented as "sha256".
then sha512 is... "sha512sum"
mircea_popescu: so wait, basically your wife used some paper altcoin
to defraud grocery chains ?
BingoBoingo: OMG USG Side channel attack on
TaT via Ebay-Wife interaction
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves i don't follow, so did
the coupons yield boxes or not ?
BingoBoingo: do you read
this
thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt
to survive
the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ? << I read either
that or some kernel afficianado who would buy a unix pacemaker
thickasthieves: lol, so my wife has been buying
these cat litter coupons on ebay for mos, free box, any size
nubbins`: thestringpuller: blonde-dyed mullet kid with a skateboard making 40
tapes for his band
mircea_popescu: sciilifeform do you read
this
thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt
to survive
the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ?
mircea_popescu: Dropping out
the egd support made me puzzled for a moment, but
then I realized
that
there is no point in using egd
to feed
the randomness
to
the process, you just need
to feed entropy
to
the kernel, and let
the process get it normally. I have had, unfortunately, quite a bit of experience with entropy-generating daemons, and I wonder if
this might be
the right
time
to suggest getting a new multi-source daemon out." << a
mircea_popescu: "I actually have been
thrilled
to see
that finally
there is movement
to replace
the straight access
to /dev/random and /dev/urandom:
Ted's patch
to implement a getrandom() system call
that can be made compatible with OpenBSD's own getentropy() in user space. And even more I'm happy
to see
that at least one of
the OpenBSD/LibreSSL developers pitching in
to help shape
the interface.
thestringpuller: nubbins`: so are you gonna sell him
the album cover rights?
thickasthieves: clients always asking me what
the deal is when
they get DRA letters