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mircea_popescu: but anyway, time for me to get my toes suckled. tomorro.
mircea_popescu: perhaps you'd be well served by reading the discussion on the topic. the wot dun work as you may imagine it do\es.
Rassah: There are a lot of people in wot that have never met in person
Rassah: and it's just as reliable (see pirate@40) whereby some people can be nice and known and trusted, and turn out to be total douchebags
mircea_popescu: you're on the thin ice of presumption. what makes you think people on the wot don';t kn ow each other in person ?
mircea_popescu: you ARE goign to siberia. on foot.
mircea_popescu: think of it as "not being in the communist party" in moscow cca 1952.
mircea_popescu: not in the wot = no good. period.
mircea_popescu: of people that will either fail or be raped or both.,
Rassah: mircea_popescu: Most people I know are not in the wot. Sorry, but there is a whole separate "wot" out there that's not quite as... digital...
mircea_popescu: Rassah: I thought he was? Etherium is run by a large group of people, including finance guys << none of which in the wot ? catperson, puhlease.
mircea_popescu: decimation: web 2.0 is so poorly designed that this barely exists, instead of being a first class featue << muff said.
asciilifeform: incidentally, for a few years now one can buy similar apparatus for triangulating small arms fire. you can actually see these permanently installed in certain u.s. cities.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform generally such detectors are valuable to embarass.
dub: i've a perverse need to test newphones waterproofyness
asciilifeform: (dr. evil plants mine on street xxx, you left xxx ahead of schedule, mine blows. locals admit nothing, say 'gas leak.' wave velocity sensor on your desk tells truth.)
mircea_popescu: decimation: everyone knows that eastern europeans are going to cheat and steal the carp << i can attest, carp is huge in eeu
asciilifeform: although i can think of one case
asciilifeform still didn't think this required electronics. if you're in range, ear/nose ought to work
asciilifeform is familiar with history, where the briefcase is always behind one cement column too far, the mine is always three cars away, etc.
mircea_popescu: decimation: I thought it was always native << you were right, it was.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know making a hit is not as trivial as it sounds.
dub fails to quickly find pics of loomed 7*48 port fibre blades and gives up
asciilifeform: 'q: what to do if a shell lands in your trench? a: jump twenty meters and scatter yourself around!' - ww1, british.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know they missed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: shockwave << what's the use if the charge is already set off and the crater smoking ?
Rassah: mircea_popescu: It sounded like you doubted my faith in bitcoin. Frankly I am offended. The statement I made was lolzy and derpy beause it is essentially saying that bitcoin will become so valuable that it will be valueless, which is a logical contradiction, and yet I have heard that statement countless times over the years
Duffer1: dub it's as far as i was willing to go, not about to rebraid each wire lol
BingoBoingo: Huh, I'm only running a .21 according to this machine
mircea_popescu: mthreat you gettting blown too ?
mircea_popescu: i can type
mircea_popescu: btw, let the permanent rtecord reflect that i am less drunken than mthreat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if your alarm picks up TATP, sell it to the americans, they'll cream their pants
Rassah: mircea_popescu: Wait, why are you telling me that bitcoin will work?..........
Rassah: That's the most entertainingly dumb thing I have heard. I wonder if anyone else has any others
Rassah: mircea_popescu: ??? I mean stupider than the claim I said
Rassah: By the way, does anyone have a better (lolsier) reason for why bitcoin will never work than "Bitcoin is deflationary, and will keep going up in price as people hoard it, until it becomes wortless?"
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu: conventional munitions alarm << you mean, ears ringing? or smelled the unmistakeable smell of trotyl? or actual electric alarm? << no there;s an actual alarm.
cazalla: he'll be taking it in the ass, that's about it
BingoBoingo: HANDSofSTEEL: If you want to take both sides, BitBet is probably the best tool for that
cazalla: Duffer1, i know that feel, ocd cable management
HANDSofSTEEL: thanks for the correction
asciilifeform: Duffer1: what is remarkable in these photos ?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 this s not nearly nsfw enough for here
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
HANDSofSTEEL: but yes there are alterior motives
HANDSofSTEEL: i actually think the technology is awesome is what piques my interest
sqsqsqsqsq: you like it, the pump and dump?
HANDSofSTEEL: then that will be a good start for early investors
HANDSofSTEEL: if for some reason they stop selling them now
HANDSofSTEEL: well its catch 22, the more on initial, the worse the entry price is, but there is increased interest
HANDSofSTEEL: the less the better
Duffer1: haven't they already received several thousand perfectly healthy btc?
HANDSofSTEEL: might be good to get on both sides
Duffer1: start well for who is the question
dub: I expect that it will, at least, not start well
Duffer1: etherum isn't going to end well
assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum’s Genesis Sale Offers | When Bitcoin Met Pete
BingoBoingo: HANDSofSTEEL: If you really want to go long on ethereum, mircea_popescu wants to go short. I'd advise reading up on ethereum criticism before doing anything rash though.
kakobrekla: i guess it would be fair to note that todays mentions are not parsed in search yet.
BingoBoingo: HANDSofSTEEL: Yeah, the log are here and as kakobrekla Has blessed you with, search
HANDSofSTEEL: wanted to see what the overall vibe was like but i see there are logs online to look at
BingoBoingo: HANDSofSTEEL: What brings you to these parts?
Rassah: I thought lawyers did coke, no pot?
dub: but we were talking about cops
dub: Lawyers are teh biggest pottheads in my experience
Rassah: sorry, term is "fur suit," but I guess technicaly costumes
Rassah: I used to work at Disney World. People who wore suits often smoked weed, dropped acid, etc, because they could always blame the consequences on head exhaustion
HANDSofSTEEL: thanks for the warm welcome
Rassah: dub: Lots of suiters working at Disney World are like that
dub: got a buddy who was basically high 24/7 on the job
dub: BingoBoingo: not afaik, they go for the real deal
BingoBoingo: I wonder if the 5-0 has an eu de meth the can spray on to be more convincing undercover
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Smelled like the more solid, you're going to get addicted kind
BingoBoingo: I tend to treat people in Bitcoin T-shirts the same way drug dealers treat people wearing I <3 crack T-shirts
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: That was danielpbarron
BingoBoingo: So, last friday I'm at the bar and my friends point out a dude with a Bitcoin T-shirt. Suggest I start a conversation. I point out that in the best case they are a stranger, and in the worst case they are some petty scammer I blogged about.
TheNewDeal: somebody just went to that bitcoin hippy festival called porcine or something
Rassah: Any of you guys ever go to conferences?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Rejected tx's happen on a scale.
TheNewDeal: well I didn't say empty. You said reject tx's
TheNewDeal: don't btc miners do that too?
Rassah: I don't keep NMC as mone, stre of value, or a transaction mechanism. I keep it as "a cost to register and renew a domain name"
BingoBoingo: Then there's the tendency of NMC miners to reject tx's because it's just their free bonus coin with purchase of BTC mining
Rassah: If the demand for .bit domain names, addresses, and identities goes up, demand for namecoin will go up. Right now, it just says that no one realy uses .bit
Rassah: Why do you need to stabilize Namecoin? It's not money :/
BingoBoingo: Rassah: Being a plus that can be mined on top of BTC with little opportunity cost is a handicap.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Because what do the Big BTC pools that merge namecoin do? Almost uniformly they dump it. Now... there's enough NMC out there that a sufficiently well monetized party could stabilize the market, but doing so would be expensive and bloody
Rassah: BingoBoingo: I'm interested too. How so?
Rassah: decimation: K... Point is, regardless of what ether is ultimately worth, if they do come up with a system that's as usable as they hope it will be, you could think of ether is jet fuel needed to run it. It won't be money, and, privately, the ether guys don't seem to want etherium to be money either. Just coins you plunk into the system to keep it rnning
BingoBoingo: The merged mining that saved namecoin now cripples it.
Rassah: decimation: What do you think about Namecoin?
TheNewDeal: so true
BingoBoingo: Well, their biggest concern should be locating themselves in friendly jurisdictions that don't extradite.
decimation: the label "money" isn't relevant - jet fuel is eminently salable, whereas the salability of ethereum is extremely dubious - and that's the property I was interested in specifying with the word "money"
Rassah: Though not sure about the ethics of this...
Rassah: In summary, they had an idea they thought was awesome, they wanted to spend a year working on this awesome idea of theirs, without having to worry about jobs or income, so they marketed their idea to bitcoiners who like dumping money into altcoins... Sounds like they weren't dumb at all about this :)
BingoBoingo: Among the other things Sonny V could go back to jail for equities fraud is a leading candidate.
BingoBoingo: If you don't have anything to deliver and you sell "whatevers" the "whatevers" you bought constitute equity in the concern