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mircea_popescu: can you name
the people
that were butchered in
the benghazi pile of lol ?
decimation: someone, somewhere misses
the deceased, presumably
decimation: I'm not sure
that usg is capable of keeping
the deaths of its employees secret
mircea_popescu: decimation here's a
thought : if
the number of us agents executed was small, you'd see a lot of publicity over
the cases.
the reason you don't hear a peep about it is
that..
decimation: the USA: "they believed
their own propaganda bullshit"
chetty: <mircea_popescu> so you know,
the day i can bribe a mexican official
to shoot a federal agent for sport...//by
then it wont matter
HeySteve: orlov has a lot
to say about
the failure of imperial USA, he's not
the only one
to predict balkanization
decimation: if
the power of usg wanes
to
that degree, I
think you will see
the power return
to
the localities/states
assbot: Public Enemy - By
The
Time I Get
To Arizona - YouTube
mircea_popescu: so you know,
the day i can bribe a mexican official
to shoot a federal agent for sport...
mircea_popescu: california was and will be happy
to continue as a province of mexico city.
chetty: I
thought
they were in Chicago
mircea_popescu: there's no particular reason
the command center of
that continent has
to be in
the far away east coast.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless,
the mexican drug cartels already sprung all
the way
to arizona.
dub: but a spring in
the sense of populace uprising, nah
chetty: nah, don forget
the migration from
the south,
they will repopiulate
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform american really has naught
to do with it.
mircea_popescu: they call it vegetarian or w/e
the hell, but facts are facts.
chetty: much of
the world is already way
too dependant on internet, heck its even in soda vending machines now
mircea_popescu: if us bans cotton
tomorrow, or oil, or w/e, it'd simply be because it finally became
too poor
to afford it.
mircea_popescu: banning consumer grade shit usually is accomplished
through being poor.
mircea_popescu: there's
two conflated points here. you can ban "consumer" grade shit any
time.
this is fine but irrelevant. bitcoin is not consumer stuff.
dub: iraq is
the most recent example I'm aware of, but pick anywhere
the 'arab spring' reared up
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, radio waves melting
the ice or what? xD
mircea_popescu: <dub> remembering
the internet does get banned periodically in various locales << in
the sense it's banned in antarctica, sure.
DreadKnight: dub, communism is not freedom; china made own linux distro and imposed it, for a fee, in internet-caffee places and other businesses, kicking microsoft in
the nuts and finally
taking over
DreadKnight: asciilifeform, maybe, but at least something got out about
the event instead of
total darkness
xmj_: dub is missing
the point
chetty: exactly like
that, and stalin didnt send anyone
to gulags (oh oops actually
there wasnt anyone named stalin
to do
that)
DreadKnight: college students had a protest,
they were shot by government / military
xmj_: chetty: like nothing happened on june 4, 1989, in
tiananmen square?
DreadKnight: I like
that btc got mentioned quite a few
times in a sci-fi / futuristic show called "Almost Human"
dub: there are
technical measures
they could bring against bitcoin
DreadKnight: you don't get
to see aspiring ads displayed on
tv anyway
chetty: if its against
the law
to rain before sundown
then it cannot happen and if you say it did you are guilty of something
dub: remembering
the internet does get banned periodically in various locales
DreadKnight: hah,
there are a lot of re-branded pharmaceutical drugs nowadays, basically
the same
thing as aspiring or other common stuff, just at way higher prices
DreadKnight: punkman, I'm aware, good point as well :) I guess it's were all
the banks and money related problems started appearing... and inflation!
FabianB: <+mircea_popescu> FabianB: isn't on bbet either, often bets with 0.1 on yes and 10 btc on no <<
that's not so often is it ? <-- no, just saw a few
xmj_: great minds
think alike
chetty: ban bitcoin? might as well
try
to ban
the internet
mircea_popescu: xmj_
taleb sed so, AndrewJackson even has it in his part message.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, yeah good point, but I see ltc as
the "next missile in line
to fire", just in case
xmj_: someone banning bitcoin would be
the best
thing ever, as it's much like a hydra.
punkman: DreadKnigh, fiat was digital much earlier
than computers
mircea_popescu: it's not merely "more fish in
the pond".
that's
the easy part. "more swimming fishes,
that are doing fine in spite of a laundry list of <deffects> you may imagine"
DreadKnight: yeah, in case btc gets banned, you got more fish in
the pond; so either ban "digital currencies" but fiat money kinda got converted
to digital with credit cards
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ltc is primarily
the politician's captive daughter re "we'll ban bitcoin!"
benkay: improvement on
the scale of bitcoin over dollars
benkay: <DreadKnight> some
try
to improve stuff under
the hood, but I don't have
the
technical expertise
to figure out if
those changes are really improvements // if
the improvement isn't plain as
the nose on my kike face it and everyone behind it are going
to get glassed
DreadKnight: so it was just a matter of
time; mining difficulty keeps increasing
DreadKnight: asciilifeform, well, after GPU mining was redundant on btc, a lot of people switched
to ltc, but pretty much no coin is worth mining with GPU anymore now
DreadKnight: it's not very likely any
time soon
that all humans will only use a coin, same goes for languages; a lot of people benefit from conversions / exchanges
DreadKnight: it's good
to have ltc around, just like
there's both gold and silver
DreadKnight: they're kinda like branches of software, so a bit of experimentation is good
to be done in "test areas" rather
than on
the popular blockchain everybody is using
DreadKnight: some
try
to improve stuff under
the hood, but I don't have
the
technical expertise
to figure out if
those changes are really improvements
DreadKnight: there are only a few coins
that actually bring something new
to
the
table
DreadKnight: altcoins are kinda like linux distros nowadays, a lot of people making yet another one for no apparent reason (trying
to get rich with not much work), just
to change
the name and such, hoping
they might get lucky
DreadKnight: benkay, anyway, was wondering why you said you would nuke
those people since you didn't provided an argument; are you against seeing more joke coins or what?
DreadKnight: benkay,
took my quite a bit
to remember
that MPEx
thing and figure out what part of it names stand for, still not sure about
the full name; it's an acronym; anyway, stock related stuff is usually named using acronyms and rather obscure compared
to regular brands
benkay: what's
the MPEx brand and how does it make or break MPEx?
benkay: i suppose if
they're undifferentiable from other chicom-originating crap, DreadKnight. otherwise,
there's value provided
that a brand has nothing
to do with.
mircea_popescu: and i guess if it weren't on coindesk. which
two are problly synonymous anywaqy.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: 46k-spent-mining-hardware-final-reckoning <<
that'd have been a much better post if it actually included numbers. you know, paid
this,
then, made back
this much so far etc.
DreadKnight: there's a lot of psychology in branding, can even make or break
the products
themselves
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, very common names can give companies or product a huge boost regarding making
those finances
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight no, mainly you're
turrning yourself into a problem because you keep beating
that dead horse discussion while we're
talking finance, which is
the overriding
topic here.
DreadKnight: benkay, first
that I hear
that word, guess it's a location xD
mircea_popescu: jurov you mean
the ~20 btc
that sold for 21ish average and
the book is pretty much back ?
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, mainly I have a problem with Apple and who allowed it
to have
that name
jurov: i mean, if i wanted
to liquidate s.nsa, i'd have
to sell for 90% and still wait
till it gets filled
mircea_popescu: benkay well he has a serious problem with a bunch of kids
that wish
to be made rich by bitcoin
through nothing more
than just
that.
DreadKnight: benkay,
that's exactly what most people say xD
DreadKnight: kuzetsa, me
too, it
tans
the fruit and
ties it
to hardware and evil
benkay: jurov et al a huge issue in btc finance right now is
the lack of long
term plays and
the fixation on returns! now!
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: when I hear "apple" I
think of
the company and feel a little sick
DreadKnight: so it's not really my own problem, is something related
to our design and
the masses
DreadKnight: benkay, most people when
they hear "apple" get a little more spit in
their mouth, it's how psychology works, you have involuntary reflexes which you can't control properly
mircea_popescu: but
this is a sidepoint anyway, im more interested in
the f.* impossible
to liquidate
thing
mircea_popescu: jurov so it'd
take months
to sell for more
than
the average ?
this is expected no ?
jurov: iirc 20% above ipo/long
time average price
DreadKnight: benkay, so when you
talk about common stuff like food you
think about
the less known altcoin or hardware company and
the other way around, which is evil
DreadKnight: benkay, bacon is food, apple is food, naming software or hardware after food is somewhat applying psychological manipulation,
think about
the Pavlov's dog
jurov: i have multiple past experiences
that one has
to wait months for such asks
to be sold
mircea_popescu: it is sinful
to at
the same
time know and not have announced.