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gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: you're still missing the whole "bind *real-eval* to nil" part of the discussion
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:51:28; punkman: gabriel_laddel: I get your point but also, this kinda sounds to me like "don't use math symbols, write it all with the full power of english"
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> trinque: well these are all very good questions, but that's application development. << NO, this is developing separate universes
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> trinque: I don't see how this is a problem? << I am a librarian, a collector. I want to collect information without collecting a bunch of executable rat turds
trinque: gabriel_laddel: what of gentlemen like BingoBoingo that want to write and link things
trinque: and on the other end, gabriel_laddel will tell you that's a (small) subset of his lispy metaverse
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it spills trans. << I though that was called prison???
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:35:09; gabriel_laddel: there is a partially complete js->parenscript transpiler so that you don't have to read js
trinque: gabriel_laddel: hypertext is a word.
trinque: gabriel_laddel: yeah that
punkman: gabriel_laddel: well even if you can translate all the worl'ds js to lisp, I still don't want any JS
trinque: gabriel_laddel: yeah that immediately pissed me off
BingoBoingo: trinque: I am referring to the latter in reference to gabriel_laddel's assertion javascript should be parsed at all.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: But at some point people want to put arbitray string on their own.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> XML syntax is a heinous misstep that affords little, demands much << It is, and When gabriel_laddel talks massamune unfortunately I read XML or XML with paren
trinque: gabriel_laddel: sounds very nice
trinque: BingoBoingo: I would say mr gabriel_laddel has it, that all syntaxes can be done within the lisp system, and simultaneously you find that the vast majority aren't necessary ☟︎
trinque: gabriel_laddel: not at all; they've already learned more syntax via basic algebra
trinque: gabriel_laddel: just the bit about how if we don't make all these assumptions about order of operations, and arrange things sensibly, we've got sexps
trinque: gabriel_laddel: nice "hey look we invented lisp" at the beginning there
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: No, You don't fucking make XML
punkman: gabriel_laddel: I haven't because I don't wanna emacs
punkman: gabriel_laddel: I get your point but also, this kinda sounds to me like "don't use math symbols, write it all with the full power of english" ☟︎
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: If I want to print pretty papers I don't need, want, or desire turing complete postscript
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> punkman: you lose the full power of the programming language. << In nearly every case a 3rd part gives you code you don't want a full language. You want a plainly crippled language.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: You have to understand I am appraoching this as a trained Librarian. Scripting is at best a form of highlighting (never a reason for broswerscript or postscript to be turing complete) Everything else it does is vandalism
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: A page is a document. Why should anyone other than the user impose any scripts upon the text?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Sharp blades excise tumors like javascript
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> Incidentally, improving the browser interface is what I plan on using to punish interns / employees who create DSLs, configuration file formats, non-reader macro syntax extensions... << How is "improving:" and not "killing" the word here
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 21:39:45; ascii_field: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel http://www.sigsam.org/bulletin/articles/178/stoutemyer.pdf << some actual implementation details re: 'derive' & 'mulisp'
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 23:21:26; trinque: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Conkeror has made its way into daily use; JS debugging tips? Best thing providing a JS REPL in Emacs?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> asciilifeform: if gpg is so librarification-resistant, how have you jammed it into the cardano? << He only needs format comptibility
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2015 02:38:55; mircea_popescu: in today's lulz : it turns out that bitcoin-qt interface, if presented with a malformed value such as 1,275 btc instead of the 1.275 notation,
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what's your definition of decency ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: On that topic truly useful literature is going to be elusive
asciilifeform: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5702/65435673.1d1/0_87bdb_b406c8ac_orig << american pooh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: microshit has not improved a single thing it touched, from z80 rom basic, xenix, msdos (yes), to this day
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i had to guess, would say that it checks for a standard prologue before jumping to the return addr found on stack
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I though you manced the necros? Isn't that what dark ELF's do?
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 01:15:49; *: ben_vulpes dosimieter
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking of this, does kakobrekla's magical car still run ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 01:04:57; pete_dushenski: "I thought the support BitcoinXT had was way bigger because of so many people praising it on /r/Bitcoin. I wanted to help scale bitcoin so I spent about $200 to set up 10 BitcoinXT nodes for a month."
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 00:41:21; pete_dushenski: it's not like i expect him to go anywhere a la pankkake, tat, or decimation, but i don't trust him.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it had to go on a boat!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo next time film him, put him online. << He may or may not have been recorded. If his handlers read this they probably ought to see if their agent has a file with one of the more trusted local constables.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know of any reason to think that esr regrets turning; he probably regrets not taking sufficiently many 'pieces of silver'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> “under federal law, a judge is technically allowed to sentence a defendant based on conduct that was uncharged, [or]charged and dismissed, or even charged and acquitted. That’s because the standard of proof at trial is beyond a reasonable doubt while the standard of proof at sentencing is by a preponderance, i.e. more likely than not. […] The government can dismiss charges if it wishes, but if the court thin
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:51:36; mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 00:46:13; pete_dushenski: http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-come-from/ << A) A Culture of Honor in part 6 aptly describes the wot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'loses' is a smoke screen to begin with. usg never really loses a trial, how could it
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:55:30; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my first gig out of school was at an abominable usg-contracting salt mine where little gurlz straight out of mit, for that fact alone, were promoted, repeatedly, over everyone else's head
asciilifeform: then yes, mircea_popescu has it.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 00:56:08; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266760 << the idea of children being -ev is so counter-historical.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the lulziest part is that this is OFFICIAL usg newspeak. e.g., police 'swat' tanks in my town have big fat RESCUE stencilled on the side
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 00:57:08; mircea_popescu: "s-as-effort-to-rescue-bitcoin-falters" hahahaha WHAT ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see gpggram for another interesting tidbit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was down for 2 1/2 hours total, even.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, it rebooted TWICE AGAIN last night
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No point being able to beat full USG if vulnerable to papersigners like new look voorhes and shren at the same time.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> those are least concern tho << I'm not sure least concern. Lesser concern, yes. Probably by attack frequency not least.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mail
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: and i'm none too amused by 'oh no she didn't' 'oh yes she did' banter either
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: wasn't lolin' man, was just wondering what the occasion was !
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You should try the newsmines
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> ;;ud coon's age << But biologically a coon's maximum lifespan is 18 months to 36 months
ben_vulpes: anyways, pete_dushenski, i'd love to talk some day when you've got something other than "lol ur handle bro" lined up
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nah, just a minute is a long time nao
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> ben_vulpes: i just saw 'benkay' logged in and was inquiring, as i hadn't seen that handle in a coon's age. << Coon vernacular for that period of time is "a minute" now
BingoBoingo: Everything and nothing is going on. Which is why mircea_popescu's Bitcoin exam will eventually need metaphysics and biology sections
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i just saw 'benkay' logged in and was inquiring, as i hadn't seen that handle in a coon's age.
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> *' experiment ?
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> benkay: what happened to the 'ben_vulpes
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: benkay has left IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: the "experiment", i mean.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: looks like, ya
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: what, did the nick disconnect while i wasn't looking?
shinohai: LOL pete_dushenski thanks for logging that
pete_dushenski: https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3k0imx/the_number_of_xt_blocks_in_the_last_1000_is/ << sweet redditard tears
BingoBoingo guessing ben_vulpes is at a bar
pete_dushenski: benkay: what happened to the 'ben_vulpes
BingoBoingo: No, Greece and Hungary are supposed to save Syria by becoming Syria mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo has yet to see pete_dushenski talk about wishes to leave a tract of geography disputed by two Satans
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 23:36:03; ben_vulpes: eh, just pay for the children.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: dude's manufacturing discontent. what.
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.mats.-1:33fbc075d363f966c5a2041fe3ce19f176f71eec14fdd72e3cdee9400bc41912
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: It's a show, a true gem. Really destroys one's faith in American real estate
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm not watching it, just bet. Watching "To Catch a Contractor" instead
BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> wow, picking up blondies at porcfest works that well, huh. << hah. I was referring to my past when I didn't yet believe in The Bible
mats: ben_vulpes: just joking.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, wise words, indeed I should have
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 22:01:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266458 << the principal way through which the usg world of chimps succeeds is by getting the intelligent people to withdraw rather than kill them.\
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 21:46:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266334 << listen, here's a plan : move to mongolia, or any of the stans. you're close enough to china to acclimate and also in a sane place. rent a chunk of a local dc and do sysadmin for it.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 21:36:14; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, im disqualifying the whole production on the basis of the following quote :
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: who knows what 0days lurk in the abs controller.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 19:06:41; ascii_field: if everett's picture of consciousness were to turn out physically real, he would remain alive and obscenely loaded in the branch where the bits resolved to the key.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 16:54:55; ascii_field: very doubtful that anything will come of it, but at present time no one, afaik, has so much as asked them.