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pete_dushenski: i'm off to go play some badminton and pedal my bike around town. later!
punkman1: pete_dushenski, yeah someone's gotta build those big ships
pete_dushenski: punkman1: so that's what they do instead of getting laid
chetty: hahaha I been preaching that one (or similar) for a while, no one wants to give up finger pointing
mike_c: what's that math? we have 10 bacteria in us?
pete_dushenski: not the least of which is because they outnumber us in our own bodies 10-1
pete_dushenski: if we start with the blame game. we'll end up pointing the finger at bacteria.
chetty: blame the brits
pete_dushenski: not that i give two fucks about that mess. israel, if anywhere, should be in south america
pete_dushenski: sorta what we're seeing with the current conflict
pete_dushenski: but even that original property, that land o' israel, was distributed by fiat: "kick out everyone else, you deserve this" kind a thing
pete_dushenski: definitely more web of trust based
pete_dushenski: it was a basic economy to be sure
pete_dushenski: jooz who fell into debt were freed on the jubilee year, but not gentiles...
pete_dushenski: agricultural land was returned to its "rightful" owner every 7 years, making it effectively rented out, with only property in walled cities able to be permanently transferred.
pete_dushenski: "undercapitalization" in economies with jubilees allowed them to last a century or ten rather than this fizz bang pop nao it's here now it isn't stuff
pete_dushenski: decimation: as happens in societies without stable property rights. If you do this at all you can expect an immediately higher default premium which would make an economy undercapitalized." <<
pete_dushenski: “It’s possible that taking physical pain relievers provides men with more cognitive resources to express the pain they feel,” << alcohol seems to work this way
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pete_dushenski: zillabtc: and they all faild? << what was mircea_popescu saying about people sitting quietly and reading solving all the world's woes?
chetty: <pete_dushenski> punkman1: he's a believer << show this stellartard "never say never" and he'll be a belieber too// belivers we got, need a few more skeptics to throw mud around, imo
assbot: pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2014/критика-и-самокритика/ << quite enjoyed this. makes me appreciate the current state of affairs. and want to find some toes to suck.
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pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well i got a condition where i can't differentiate canadian settlements. << maybe we shouldn't have colour-coded them...
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: maybe i'm just lazy and stupid. that's always possible. << so humble.
pete_dushenski: punkman1: he's a believer << show this stellartard "never say never" and he'll be a belieber too
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu yup, definitely mixed em up. thanks for spotting this and for the comment :)
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes oo new sizes eh? i see that survant james has already found there way into the line-up :D
assbot: The Transition. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell fluffypony thanks man. there was a whole transition and everything: http://contravex.com/2014/07/29/the-transition/
pete_dushenski: as if they'll actually pay the "fine"
ThickAsThieves: hotels just need a way to review customers
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chetty: I guess they accidentally do right sometimes
ThickAsThieves: though i doubt court cares what TBF wants
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ThickAsThieves: yep the political/emotional/whateverthefuck climate polarization seems to force any school of thought to require worship-like devotion
chetty: everything gets blown up into religion these days ..global warming, feminazi, PETA
ThickAsThieves: i guess it's great tho
ThickAsThieves: so much hope and so many ideologies are projected onto bitcoin, fantasy and theory get blurred
punkman1: ThickAsThieves: they need the Rake: "Never believe a thing simply because you want it to be true"
chetty: I generally consider it a useful mental exercise to consider the possible extremes
ThickAsThieves: someone is saying it's quite religious, and it does feel that way sometimes
ThickAsThieves: in most cases, a future they may never even see
ThickAsThieves: yes i agree bitcoin is a great tool, but it's hard for people to resist the urge to close their eyes and blink into a magical future
punkman1: as an individual you may have the power to not allow the state inspector count your pigs before you sell them
ThickAsThieves: peter todd quit bitcoin for viacoin?
punkman1: it's not bitcoin that puts the state out of business. individuals do that, perhaps empowered by bitcoin in various ways.
chetty: always a good thing :)
ThickAsThieves: i'm just playing the other side
ThickAsThieves: yes the guy did write a decent article
chetty: I think we are all fumbling a bit, not sure where all of this leads
ThickAsThieves: it's a thin line between the derps claiming the magic of bitcoin 2.0 and the magic of bitcoinpolitics 2.0
chetty: he should, but its not a bad start on some of the ideas
ThickAsThieves: i think Oleg should explore these things too
ThickAsThieves: but how many places to go that won't impost a state on you?
ThickAsThieves: is it voluntary to answer the door if men with guns are knocking?
chetty: ThickAsThieves, it could but taxes would be voluntary
ThickAsThieves: i'm also unclear as to why a 'state' (in whatever adapted form) can't exist with bitcoin around
ThickAsThieves: i can rationalize a majority of what he's saying, but it's overconfident that everything would go exactly as he sees it
ThickAsThieves: able to pay them a single penny." can i haz some koolaid too?
ThickAsThieves: "But as more and more businesses avoid paying more and more taxes, there is less money being left for the government. That means that extraction will become increasingly less effective and therefore allowing even more people to avoid taxation on even larger scale. This cycle would repeat until all government employees will run away to seek real jobs because their bosses wouldn’t be
ThickAsThieves: "So if you support the idea of Bitcoin, you acknowledge the hazard of entrusting the entire economy to trusted third parties. You acknowledge that the ultimate power must be spread thin among every single participant and never be entrusted in hands of a few, even if it’s a democratically elected government." Good luck with that.
assbot: Oleg Andreev - Bitcoin is not compatible with the State
punkman1: and they'll love it because they didn't even have $100 to begin with
BigBitz: "We've sent everyone out their $100 Wal-Mart Gift Cards, thanks Insurance"
fluffypony: and only up to $100
fluffypony: they'll only pay if it's directly their fault
fluffypony: they won't pay anything if the loss is your fault
assbot: PSA: Circle and Xapo account insurance does NOT cover ALL your lost bitcoins. It only covers up to $100. : Bitcoin
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punkman1: "Last night my mate asked to use a USB port to charge his cigarette, but I was using it to charge my book. The future is stupid."
punkman1: greek words are tricky
fluffypony: no no no, we're making Words as a Service in the cloud
punkman1: are you making glutenfree text-analytics too?
fluffypony: got to get someone to make a Greek wordlist, and wanted to make sure the rules we apply to the English one could be applied to Greek as well
fluffypony: but Greek letters in words are individual letters as they are with English, right?
fluffypony: and you'll have to excuse my utter ignorance
punkman1: I got the card yeah
fluffypony: EsteNuno: same EsteNuno as the one from BTCT?
mircea_popescu: armored in the styx as it were.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's more in the line of "well what bad can happen to me now!"
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> nfi why it should be such a big deal, but it undeniably is. << theatre hue
mircea_popescu: the shit that's on my blog jesus
mircea_popescu: "I invented a new type of gameI: DOOR GAME!"
ben_vulpes: but either the clojure api for s3 or the java lib underneath it have a bug in their pre-signed url implementations.
ben_vulpes: i burned days DAYS DAYSSSSSSS trying to get pre-signed URLs to work from java last month before giving up and hard coding AWS credentials into the deploy scripts
mircea_popescu: of course they aren't lol.
ben_vulpes: now i have to have a conversation with some people who are really sold on virtualization about how either i'm a retard or these layers of indirection are not worth the fucking cost.
ben_vulpes: well nothing, duh. they have the stick here.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what do you want them to do ?
ben_vulpes: "sorry, you can't log to a bucket in a different region"
ben_vulpes: it's just SO GREAT to not actually have to manage your own hardware! look! we even have a k/v store you can post shit to!
mircea_popescu: this is the unlimited shared hosting v2.0
ben_vulpes: yeah i'm clearly the retarded one here
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i don't think you understand.