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MolokoDeck: I was wondering about that. I'm not clear on how much influence a nonce has on hash outcomes. so that explains that question.
MolokoDeck: I've done it that way.
MolokoDeck: also in php one would either have to use a package or use system calls to do the encryption.
mircea_popescu: you'd need a nonce as large as the keyspace of the hash
MolokoDeck: doable in php or python. php has a fairly bad reputation in cryptocurrency lately. And in computer science for different reasons (you can't predict the outcome of certain operations).
BingoBoingo: I just met you, this is crazy. Here's my weiner. So blow me baby.
mircea_popescu: <MolokoDeck> right, you'd dither the nonce until you got some other block to match the hash. << the nonce isn't actually large enough
BigBitz: and this is crazy.
MolokoDeck: whatever happened to that optical matrix multiplcation chip?
BingoBoingo: lol, There was an optical computing conversation this week...
MolokoDeck: I'm not sure there's a quantum algorith for SHA256 that's particularly leveraged, but there are supposedly turing-complete quantum gate computers that could accellerate that. Let's not go into that.
BigBitz: If they had some quantums, maybe :P
MolokoDeck: oh nevermind. It would have to match the ENTIRE hash. megayears. ok. i get it.
BigBitz: heh, I may be clueless, but I don't think a miner can influence the hash value of the clock.
MolokoDeck: right, you'd dither the nonce until you got some other block to match the hash.
MolokoDeck: it wouldn't be on the central trusted registry though, but that may not be entirely secure. or someone would have to check an document the recieved by another channel against the central registry or website.
MolokoDeck: you can't change the hash, but you could make any block match the hash, possibly, if you had enough mining time.
MolokoDeck: lemme think about that.
MolokoDeck: since the hash is inserted as a comment in the blockchain, I think one might be able to create bogus blocks that have the same has by inserting a salt and mining a single hash here.
MolokoDeck: the blockchain is being used to make an immutable public record of the authenticating hash of the document bundle being published.
MolokoDeck: so I overloade the term "validate".
MolokoDeck: the block of documents gets cryptosigned with a hash of the documents inside. That hash gets sent to the blockchain. The other validation (initial validation) is of the cryptosignature on each document. The documents have to be legit before they go into the bundle that get's logged and recorded permenently as a hash on the blockchain.
MolokoDeck: automated contract notarization I would think.
mircea_popescu: tis in teh logs.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu you're trying to create some new bot? what purpose?
MolokoDeck: the bot has to buffer state and monitor for validations, which could take tens of minutes, then inform the irc channel, and update the central web logs for public notice.
mircea_popescu: yes, only the hash.
MolokoDeck: only the validating hash goes on the blockchain, not the entire block of documents, I take it?
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck hey there.
MolokoDeck: "2. all the valid deeds received in a specified interval, say 512 seconds, are appended together, hashed, and the resulting hash is inserted into a bitcoin transaction, which becomes part of the bitcoin blocchain."
MolokoDeck: am I reading the same thing you are?
RagnarDanneskjol: nothing to do with inserting hash to bitcoin
MolokoDeck: also requires the bot to have a wallet.
MolokoDeck: insertion of validation hash onto the bitcoin block chain with a transaction: requires use of the bitcoind API or connection to the bitcoin mining network.
MolokoDeck: authentication test from a single-point trusted registry.
MolokoDeck: so, I'm still reviewing the bitcoin-assets log related to a bot project involving posting and cryptosigning cryptodocuments.. or something to that effect.
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - I have my bot dev on the other line - he is reading the logs right now. This guy runs the bot for my room. lemme know if you're around to chat it up w/ him
BingoBoingo: Oh, I went from having under 10k Meat in merchandise in my mall store to...
BingoBoingo: In time
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nope. i'm willing to pay a pittance to take over code already written and not making a penny.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> make a connection. << http://survantjames.com does objective-c whatever, provided you're willing to pay fiat objective-c rates for people who actually know what they're doing.
assbot: Tef Poe/FootKlan (TefPoe) auf Twitter
kyuupichan: dub: tq
BingoBoingo: 150 would definitely be too many
mike_c: ah. 30 people right now. i wonder what the right # is.
mike_c: i was too lazy to look. did anybody get kicked out of assbot L1?
mike_c: lol fluffypony. you don't get to accept! assbot rates who assbot wants.
TheNewDeal: love how many dumbasses / psuedonyms thermos exposed to back himself
TheNewDeal: this thread is goldem
mike_c: I saw :) i disagree with a couple points, but a counter-rebuttal.. too meta
assbot: PetaMeta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: peepz just got this irresistible impulse to believe they know shit.
mike_c: ^ the story of all interesting bitbets
mircea_popescu: anyway, remember all the knowitalls that explained how unfair a bet it was, right then ? because OBIVOUSLY etc.
mike_c: he hadn't heard about the bet yet
mircea_popescu: he was underwater by abou 10% at some point there
mircea_popescu: mike_c got a solid 20% there.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which part is the record in this case?
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (86%) on Yes, 186.56 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 4 days | weight: 55`100 (100`000 to 1)
dreamstring: word, thanks for the reads. Im gonna cash out for the night while i delve into some of theses. thanks guys.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Imma hypothesize that few things introduce people to each other and unite communities as effectively as teargas. <<< candida, actually :D
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: blogs and bash are a quicker primer, logs take a while
dreamstring: Just through the logs bash?
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: I'm kind of expecting that if you read you can have a few thousand words on why it was broken
dreamstring: I'll be much more willing to discuss the details of what i have planned once i know how this place operates though, thanks.
dreamstring: Oh that was a sad sad attempt at what I thought would be a two second plug
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: Just admit you were woefully under prepared and you are gong to actually read.
dreamstring: im on the defense on you shooting down the altcoin
dreamstring: Alright im ready to have my ass handed to me
TheNewDeal: oooo this looks good
gribble: [CLOSED] GLBSE drama - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117235.0>; Scammer tag : Nefario, theymos, others known and unknown - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/scammer-tag-nefario-theymos-others-known-and-unknown>; AMA Request: The most powerful man in bitcoin, Theymos. | The ...: <http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/2013/05/02/ama-request-the-most-powerful-man-in- (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;google theymos scammer tag
kakobrekla: i guess the real question is - they have a logo yet?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I tried but he seemed more interested in polishing bullet points.
kakobrekla: up him if you intend to have a convo btw.
BingoBoingo: <dreamstring> the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world. << I haven't had one in years
dreamstring: the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla> are you here to learn? << This dreamstring
dreamstring: and was there something i left unanswered?
dreamstring: im not trying to argue, i think i have a very valid plan of attack
kakobrekla: answer the q?
dreamstring: people who dont want smart phones are living in the past, why should the btc community care about them anyway, and the VM farming i already created a verifciation system that needs a hardware id and device verification to use
kakobrekla: are you here to learn?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe you were right about voicing the reddit referrals...
dreamstring: and then based on how you use your money that you are distributed, well the smart use it well/open their own stores on the market, the poor just get paid for having a phone
dreamstring: this allows everyone to start off on an even note
dreamstring: in the sense that those with money can afford more asics can afford to make more
dreamstring: to an even market with people in the US
BingoBoingo: <dreamstring> but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against << Who said this is a part of Bitcoin, Bitcoin fights the stupid getting richer...
dreamstring: introduce peolpe in india/kenya/africa that use MPESA rn
dreamstring: and a global decentralized trading platform on every phone through a centralized security outlet
dreamstring: but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against
BingoBoingo: And what does that offer anyone who has money that could give such a currency value?
dreamstring: in theory the hashrate doesnt mean anything besides securing from a 51% and determining who contributed what amount of work
dreamstring: Nothing besides the fact that by using a PoW/PoS hybrid you can group people into different teir groups based on their cell phones to make sure everyone is getting the same distribution of the currency.
dreamstring: damn man im all about that shark week but idk what this is getting at
BingoBoingo: dreamstring: nah, the red stuff is whale shit, not menstral painting
dreamstring: im getting trolled arent i.
dreamstring: The app aims to distribute the currency to each person to download the free app equally, as well as offer different teirs/levels of accounts for shopping, buying/selling, and trading goods and services.
dreamstring: While I have a voice, I'd like to put out for any developers interested in a possible position in a start up based around creating a mobile mining oriented cryptocurrency. The company is the Dreamstring platform, aiming to create a crypto that distributes supply and time using the fibonacci, as well as creating an equal distribution to each cellular phone user to download the mobile application.