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gribble: Nick 'Naphex', with hostmask 'Naphex!~naphex@btcxchange.ro', is identified as user 'Naphex', with GPG key id 64CDBADCE1E0BBAF, key fingerprint F3D76A985F5844814A93F46364CDBADCE1E0BBAF, and bitcoin address 12mVDqdWqFY6zrCqNqgHbxhDPB4ZVUuaTu
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I expected you as more of a Devil Wears Prada kinda guy :-P
asciilifeform: re: darkmarket: anything vaguely approaching this is (at least by thinking people) regarded as 'guilty until proven innocent' of honeypot
davout: so, as soon as they actually hear about it they'll fuck the deal up
France-bitcoin: we don't have any on our channel as far as i know...
HeySteve: I see a reputation system as pretty critical to the success of something like dark markets
ThickAsThieves: A user downloads the DarkMarket software, which runs as a daemon in the background of the user’s operating system, allowing them to connect to the DarkMarket network through any browser. The DarkMarket daemon incorporates a library of commands for peer-to-peer networking known as ZeroMQ, which allows the user’s PC to become a node in a distributed network where every user can
mircea_popescu: gypsies always have lived as nomads. most of the ancient roman empire is inhabited by sedentary farmer types. the differences are quite marked, and children are wired to react negatively to difference.
gribble: Nick 'dooglus', with hostmask 'dooglus!~biufter@unaffiliated/dooglus', is identified as user 'dooglus', with GPG key id 4BE6A010492A358E, key fingerprint 258EAE7C26B1F2EBCFA180C04BE6A010492A358E, and bitcoin address 1Doog7asLrYah3yeUppBVj8nUYnFkmXm2N
mircea_popescu: the entire " They should either be sent to the bankruptcy court, destroyed as dividends to bitcoin holders, ~or used for development of maidsafe~..." thing
asciilifeform: benkay: the romanian internet situation was dire << don't know about the rest of Ro, but in Timis. there were fiber bundles as thick as a man's neck, everywhere.
fluffypony: crumbs, so someone suggested returning the mtgox coins sent to MaidSafe to the sender - so Dan Larimer from BitShares says: "Sending them back to the thief? That makes no sense. They should either be sent to the bankruptcy court, destroyed as dividends to bitcoin holders, or used for development of maidsafe... the only thing that must not happen is the issuance of Safecoin to the thief."
fluffypony: if anyone wants me to put them down as a CoinBr referral...first to give me their invitation code gets it
Anduck: neo as?
toddf: yes I've followed the thread, same content as on bitcointalk.org
fluffypony: they exploded, dominated the scene as everyone referred their friends and all the home owners wanted tenants through them
fluffypony: there was a rental agency that had this awesome comm structure - find a tenant and you get half of their management fee for the lifetime of the tenant (they charge ~10% of the rent as a management fee)
davout: mircea_popescu: i recall visiting some old farm, and being shown tools that looked rudimentary, but were in fact perfectly balances as to minimize the strain on the farmer
mircea_popescu: as teh observation goes, all nsa successes to date are social engineering, not mathematical.
mircea_popescu: ie, that it's not accidental, but deliberate, as part of a broader govt sponsored industry agreement to keep mobiles weak cryptographically
gribble: Nick 'Naphex', with hostmask 'Naphex!~naphex@btcxchange.ro', is identified as user 'Naphex', with GPG key id 64CDBADCE1E0BBAF, key fingerprint F3D76A985F5844814A93F46364CDBADCE1E0BBAF, and bitcoin address 12mVDqdWqFY6zrCqNqgHbxhDPB4ZVUuaTu
fluffypony: because PC components are classified by customs as "spare parts"
bitcoinpete: "Here’s the straight dope: you ain’t that great, and you sure as hell ain’t that unique. Get in line with the other millions in your age group and suck it up."
benkay: Once the number of mimics is sufficiently high, their valueless enterprises become too conspicuous and they no longer pass off as legitimate investments.
mircea_popescu: as a result, all the proper urinals are nao destroyed.
BingoBoingo: Amazing how in the US Steam plants are generally just a University thing and yet every on campus steam plant I've seen has been as boring as shit.
asciilifeform: i lost interest in the project >1yr ago, when i realized that i won't be selling so much as 1 btc while i live here.
mircea_popescu: you get a list as long as you wish, provided you publish it by tomorrow.
asciilifeform: phun phact. cryptoag still exists! and used by diplomats, etc. how to explain? only theory i can think of is that folks deliberately buy into the crapola - as a gesture of doggy submission to usa
mircea_popescu: what i meant was strictly this, that your particular response matched what i may have accepted as proof that you indeed may know how you read it.
mircea_popescu: so, as kids, one party game was to whistle into an old, low baud modem. they were slow enough that it was still sort-of feasible. the game was, who gets the modem going for longer thinking it's got a sane modem on the other end
mircea_popescu: i might as well ask obama if he really meant i can keep my insurance.
mircea_popescu: well that's as far as it can possibly go huh
mircea_popescu: now without offense, let me just propose to you as a theory that it's possible you'd not know how you read it. in the same sense advertising works.
Apocalyptic: a possible explanation may be that cryptography as a field wasn't that broad in academia back then
mircea_popescu: as the things stand right now, they never had an internal bitcoin,
bounce: yeah, but we're not talking NSA as a whole. we're talking the stuff that comes out of there in the form of algorithms
mircea_popescu: for all the brilliant russians living in the 70s, the ussr was dumb as rocks.
mircea_popescu: yo, bruce, wakeup call : the nsa is about as fucktartded as you are. srsly.
jurov: as soon as the current starts to change, parasite reactances appear
gribble: Nick 'kakobrekla', with hostmask 'kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla', is identified as user 'kakobrekla', with GPG key id 27AF75321F2489E8, key fingerprint 27C3CE9A20851312F086268C27AF75321F2489E8, and bitcoin address None
mike_c: hehe, guarantcoin comment: "Looks good; Nice logo as well."
jurov: right, hire satan as PR
mircea_popescu: actual last trade was X, but actual last trade AS REPORTED by assbot is y
Naphex: davout: thats as far as i know lol
davout: Naphex: your banking relationship may be great, but as soon as you handle someone else's fiat by opening them an account, allowing them to cash in and out, you need a financial registration
davout: mircea_popescu: before as well iirc
mircea_popescu: and add a simple html form where i can dump my files as a gpg -r -a
mircea_popescu: on the page where one can submit documents to be verified, add a link to a textfile constructed as gpg -export-pubkey -a | gpg --clearsign -a
asciilifeform: this bugger was no show piece, meant as workhorse
fluffypony: as long as that wave is 5+ years and not 6 months
fluffypony: kakobrekla: that's fine, I'm not aiming to create a massive company that will be around forever, quite happy riding a wave, making money, and letting it wind down as we transition to the next thing
kakobrekla: not looking so much for exchanging as to adding.
mircea_popescu: -ti-as"
fluffypony: mod6: I read that as "I shoot peasants" and I was like "ooooh, he must live in Australia"
gribble: Nick 'BigBitz', with hostmask 'BigBitz!~BigBitz@dab.stonabox.me', is identified as user 'BigBitz', with GPG key id AB6B34E4289B7F96, key fingerprint E6D96C3A035A057AD9DD8A9DAB6B34E4289B7F96, and bitcoin address 1BigBitzyouKT2eVYvHbRUNMkCp9bvAvSu
mircea_popescu: f. they're great, as they are.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> and generally i met these guys and like them as people, so would hope that any bad ideas can be squashed earlier than later << except that's not what they want. they want their stupidity to be empowered by incompetent management, exactly like brewster. which is why they worked for him rather than for me. the only thing they'd do differently, the ONLY thing, would be for it to "work" this time. by itsel
Naphex: everybody throw a btc idea out there, as fast as possible :p
ThickAsThieves: and generally i met these guys and like them as people, so would hope that any bad ideas can be squashed earlier than later
fluffypony: Naphex: doesn't matter, we're expecting 0.5 to address X, not to the "wallet" as a whole
mircea_popescu: nao trying to pass it off as somehow relevant.
fluffypony: the exchange can be required to KYC us as the depositer
ThickAsThieves: as in, are you separately part of GearTribe
Naphex: fluffypony: is bitcoin recognised as a financial instrument? or 'electronic money' in SA?
ThickAsThieves: including software as a solution seems appropriate
fluffypony: we'd have to register as a financial services provider and a deposit taking institution
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: how else do you do it then? as an LoC?
ThickAsThieves: you dont want your investors/board acting as employees
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: as in "opened for business", will rephrase
fluffypony: benkay: pretty much everything you suggested, I kept PayBee in as I don't want to split it out into an entity on its own just yet
davout: kakobrekla: as long as we don't have the same gf :D
asciilifeform: you want them bobbing about as close to SOFAR depth as possible
mircea_popescu: and there's no such thing as gravity etc.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve voice here is a wholly innovative, quite well designed thing. it has exactly nothing in common with "moderation" as used on the interwebs forums
mircea_popescu: <HeySteve> timestamping doesn't initially seem to add much to a WoT, but I'm starting to think the more data points the easier to spot Sibyls <<< wot has timestamps as it is.
HeySteve: essentially mining rights will be restricted to those who have been vouched for or rated as definitely being real people
fluffypony: there's that point about #bitcoin-assets +m producing an aristocracy, of sorts, but that's not the same as modereation
HeySteve: I'm thinking rating will be a transaction, so that's timestamped and recorded. as you say, it is another level of context
HeySteve: well if a fork is for stabbing, a blockchain is for timestamping as nanotube said to me
kakobrekla: as long as you can attach you linkedin profile to it, you should be fine!
ThickAsThieves: well, theyre only as good as the person assessing the issuer decided
HeySteve: rating points are only as good as their issuer
ThickAsThieves: same as with WoT ratings
ThickAsThieves: yesterday it was already established that a point system could work as an economy
ThickAsThieves: those could still be identified as such
HeySteve: I thought bitundo resolved as unlikely to work as a service
ThickAsThieves: "The above approach works as long as the majority of hashpower is honest"
bounce: so the SEC recognises "National Stock Exchange" (never heard of'em) as a SRO and now they're going to set rules for Atlas ATS. any rules are good rules, amirite or amirite?
HeySteve: evidence of the person's existence, as vetted by other "proven humans"
HeySteve: if we consider trust as it's presently used as separate to what I'd call "realism"
mircea_popescu: (they just spotted the radar and replied with a pulse, making it take its own pulse reply as random scatter and discard the measurement)
mircea_popescu: bounce i wouldn't trust a tempest-proof case rated as such by a us institution and/or manufactured by a us corp
TestingUnoDosTre: 6.66 out of 10, as in you have been more bored within the last 12 days BingoBoingo
TestingUnoDosTre: the reason why I asked about quetiapine is because I use it, and think of it as habit forming
artifexd: "He feels the black" <- black as in ostracized?
artifexd: BingoBoingo, we seem to both use english as a source for our vocabulary but you put words together in ways that completely confound me.
BingoBoingo: moiety: In 'Murica we use brand names like Seroquel (also known as benadryl on steroids)
artifexd: Bottom line is that if one is bipolar, lamotrigine is awesome as long as the side effects don't kill you. If you aren't bipolar are there any benefits?
artifexd: So why the comment that lithium is not a simple mood stabilizer when I wasn't talking about lithium. Unless you meant that as to also say that lamotrigine is also not a simple mood stabilizer.