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BingoBoingo: Guess who just had the Feds knock on their door!
TomServo: I mean assbot quoting the actual log entry
kakobrekla: it sez right there, Logged on 10-08-2014 11:09:36
TomServo: Woah, that's new right?
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2014 11:09:36; moiety: I really didn't know what to say yesterday but I've had time to think now. I will leave the phone line on for the remainder of the term when I can and update the blog but I won't be able to be on IRC. Since I won't be on IRC anymore, if there is anything I should really know, please leave a message on skype or the blog. The reasons being, this isn't working out for me and I need to focus on working to keep
kakobrekla: TheNewDeal she left for undetermined amounts of t-matter.
Kamuela: kakobrekla: it was me, but i've had that domain for years and years (previously) and some of the older stuff definitely reflects being 11 years old!
Kamuela: kakobrekla: thank you, man, for both the voice and that
kakobrekla: also this is you? http://web.archive.org/web/20120801003219/http://kamuelafranco.com/
kakobrekla: (fyi i send everyone there, even ninjashogun - bad cases get slaughtered sooner or later)
kakobrekla: Kamuela well anyway, i can only show you the door, you are the one who has to step through it; http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
Kamuela: kakobrekla: does this also require a login? http://lnkd.in/bA2NERy
kakobrekla: ok, so this is me: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla
Kamuela: getting out is a bit harder, but something the initial contractors will shoulder voluntarily
Kamuela: the superniche initial target market are just Bitcoin supporters and enthusiasts, but ultimately it can compete with something like odesk by undercutting its fees especially as in many places getting into Bitcoin is getting ridiculously easy, meaning obtaining it
Kamuela: speculating? that's it? one of the biggest uses of currency is in transaction and the building of capital. we have some stock markets and that's great and will continue to grow along with 2.0 uses, but as a currency it needs to facilitate real trade
assbot: trixisowned comments on With the mtgox fiasco being long forgotten, Mark Karpeles launches a new business, "forever.net" selling VPS, VoIP & dedicated servers: bitcoin is NOT accepted.
Kamuela: you also need to solve the problem of "what is Bitcoin useful for"
Kamuela: you're always subject to a bank at a cash exchange
Kamuela: the technology isn't decentralized first, but the idea that anyone can offer services and receive Bitcoin as compensation is the most decentralized of all exchanges, imo
Kamuela: initially it isn't, it's a single-server application. but ultimately i will seek to develop many methods of access via alternate and distributed networks
Kamuela: why am i the one? because i'm committed to keeping it useful for people as far as it can be taken. i'm not looking to grow and sell out. my interests are aligned with keeping it one of the most decentralized ways to act in the BTC economy
Kamuela: someone who shares the interests of many for a Bitcoin work market, a go-to for both supplemental and potentially off-grid lifestyles
Kamuela: and for it to be truly competitive to something like odesk, it will need to be flexible enough to establish itself in an overseas jurisdiction only when completely necessary. meaning dealing in USD first and setting up a bank account makes it legally complex from the getgo
kakobrekla: ok so who are you and what makes you think you are theoretically capable of running such a thing?
Kamuela: i'd like to keep it within bitcoin's community and equity based because everything else is a crock of sh** honestly. it's not fair to give people merchandise and coupons for something that's going to generate revenue
thestringpuller: so you come to us #b-a this the day of our daughter's wedding
Kamuela: i could attempt to develop it myself, but my skills there are really crap. i have designs and nearing full use cases for the MVP
kakobrekla: but to pay you need get capital.
kakobrekla: so you wanna be the ceo and pay someone to code something up?
Kamuela: I'm in talks with differential to do it in the meteor framework
kakobrekla: who are you/your team?
Kamuela: briefly, a bitcoin work market a la odesk. development team ready
kakobrekla: what is the project about?
Kamuela: i'm trying to figure out the best way to crowdfund a bitcoin project. i really want to give equity and profit-sharing because i think anything else is BS
nubbins`: meantime, your 5 posters should be printed and mailed out within the next week or so
kakobrekla: that is not even the point for a while now.
kakobrekla: yeah mp, we totaly pwnd you. next time just say lol!
nubbins`: still magma at this point?
nubbins`: suppose the molten rock is rising to the top of the cone, but has not yet reached it
kakobrekla: its an exercise to alert reader.
kakobrekla ponders how to get out of that one.
nubbins`: although this does bring us to the question of how you can throw things into magma
kakobrekla: if you can throw things into it (-> air exposed) < that is your ASSumption . i didnt say lava.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: re: irc - perhaps the conformal servers?
mircea_popescu: this is a lulzy proposition, but too complex a point to try and explain it. cheaper to just let people try and pick up the pieces later.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1: looks like he was credited, but i can't tell what the website is supposed to be << best i can determine, it's aiming to be a b-a without the ba, predicated on the theory that you can somehow have ideologically neutral sources of power.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: uh, if Bitcoin is the French revolution, I'm out << the discussion was to amplitude. it is just as large an event. as i say there, it just happens to be going the other way, that's all.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: what a waste of silicon with such a limited lifespan.... << one of the more abundant elements and what sand is made out of. i never thought i'd see one feel sorry ~for silicon~
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: yeah, you can liquidate it by throwing it in hot magma << if you can throw things into it (-> air exposed) it's probably not hot enough to liquidate Si.
assbot: The Times January 3 2009 - Imgur
nubbins`: "jon, you're drowning this man in information" "oh fuck, you're right"
nubbins`: one of the reasons why i got out while i still could
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if he spent too long working in some large corp and it... changed him.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: tyvm for the pre-announcement 8) << it's out of this world how the guy does things innit.
nubbins`: !up topace
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: What brings you round these parts. (apologies If I've asked before, I drink) << i'm stealin gthis one.
mircea_popescu: interesting "When a buy or sell order is submitted, the ANXBTC platform receives matching orders from an extensive number of buyers and sellers who have registered as part of the ANX Open Dealer Network. " << "we selftrade. deal with it"
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mike_c seconded
mircea_popescu: no argument, it's just teh postmodernism
fluffypony: so it doesn't really matter who issues them :)
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> it seems decent - based out of Hong Kong, so that's their primary market the cards are backed by a bank in Poland << so weirdly contradictory.
TheNewDeal: the only article not written by the two site people is the one from pete_d
pankkake: some of them were first published there yes
Kamuela: figured they were born on the site
Kamuela: content that wasn't republished from somewhere else. am i totally wrong? do all those cite their original sources?
Kamuela: not saying they're more than essays though or that the main focus of that area is lots of content
Kamuela: ah yeah, same here. you said blog aggregator though, which is why i said that it seemed they were original articles, which they are, right?
TheNewDeal: that's what I'm talking about
Kamuela: TheNewDeal: we may be talking about two different things
Kamuela: Duffer1: thank you
TheNewDeal: about 3/4 of them are written by two of the site "Director of Research" or "Treasurer"
Kamuela: TheNewDeal: is it? i was under the impression mempool was all original articles
TheNewDeal: true true
Duffer1: looks like he was credited, but i can't tell what the website is supposed to be
TomServo: Gah, I forgot MP had an article there.. it was probably: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/gpg-contracts/
Kamuela: I'm trying to fix chrome so I can show you lol, the process refuses to die
Kamuela: did I probably butcher the real name? lol let me try to get the link. give me a moment to delete my chrome profile...
TheNewDeal: who wrote that
Kamuela: I read the article on nakamotoinstitute that mentioned this channel
asciilifeform: b00lcrap: this isn't how it works. gotta say something of substance.
Kamuela: trying to open chrome on mint... and nothing happens. it's like trying to start a car with a dead battery
TheNewDeal: I was reading an article the other day that the founder/owner created it after helping mark karpeles run mt gox
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nubbins`: they're very hard to find
pankkake: was that expensive or did no one think about buying those?
nubbins`: ^ just arrived in the mail :D
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
artifexd: ;;later tell mike_c Any thoughts on why S.MPOE has fallen off a cliff?
pankkake: uh, if Bitcoin is the French revolution, I'm out
ben_vulpes: <BlueMeanie4> some of these bitcoin people are reminiscint of the french revolution. for a few weeks they thought they could completely redesign the whole universe. << that party did rewrite the rules, and bitcoin'll do the same.
jborkl: but I do not really know, just looking at the ones under my desk and they look like trash
jborkl: I am not sure on that one 100%, I don't think there is anything worth it
thestringpuller: I was just wondering because I used to do IT for a company that would buy large amounts of old CPU's, and sell them to recyclers who would extract precious metals from them.
jborkl: but current gen i think trash
jborkl: mine is in the closet, the fpgas retained value since they could be retasked
kakobrekla: yeah, you can liquidate it by throwing it in hot magma
thestringpuller: or would their be a way to recycle the components in some kinda "liquidation event"?
thestringpuller: is it best to throw it away