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mircea_popescu: fascism is exactly
the opposite :
the misguided expectation/belief
that
the problems of
the group will be resolved by an individual.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, socialism is
the misguided expectation/belief
that
the problems of
the individual will be resolved by
the group.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: for
the poor student - what is a real economy?
ben_vulpes: with a heavy dose of "also we can handle with a fair degree of politeness anyone in your business who feels compelled
to comment on
the quality of our work"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I'm approaching
this problem
though as someone dropping into a culture as a full
time n00b
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: best as i can
tell, my business' sole selling point is "we're not fucking retarded and won't flake on you as soon as something more shiny comes along"
ben_vulpes: no gold's bullshit as an index due
to its captivity in government vaults and its absurd inflation via notes
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what do you mean by "fascist" in
this context?
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as bitcoin is a lot more fascist
than stalin ever got... i guess prepare for a helluva lot o' love.
decimation: absolutely,
the cold war defense complex was aimlessly looking for a 'mission'
BingoBoingo: Were
there really
that much of a backstock of American Flag Lapel pins just waiting for such a crisis?
BingoBoingo: It's also why
the War on Drugs got all of
the Military and Propaganda department support in 1992, and why
the enshrinement of 9/11 so rapidly
took little
time.
decimation: BingoBoingo: agreed.
The same "anti-"communists now hate Putin because he represents everything
they hated about Soviet fascism.
This is why usg has such an irrational policy vis-a-vie Russia
BingoBoingo: The US government won by persisting, Eastern Bloc People qon by quitting
the conflict.
BingoBoingo: decimation:
The paranoia shapes
the discourse
though, as well as
the range of possible public discourse. A
the end of
the Cold War
the Soviet block got
to purge
that, but
the "West" had
to redirect it
to prop
their system up.
decimation: re: cold war paranoia: in retrospect, I
think
the paranoia was for midwestern kulaks,
the elites were all "anti-"communists, in
the sense
that
they
thought
that
the soviet union wasn't "real" communism.
Those elites didn't mind sending said kulaks
to die in various foreign adventures
though.
mircea_popescu: there's no strength
to be had among people whose history isn't
thus described.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> "white hierarchy collapsed" << seems legit. I blame complacency & wealth
that came after
the destruction of WWII << ALso
the decades of persistent paranoia
through
the cold war
decimation: "white hierarchy collapsed" << seems legit. I blame complacency & wealth
that came after
the destruction of WWII
ben_vulpes: a sample of some horrible modern klezmer
techno
assbot: Release group Blind
Threshold by Beats Antique - MusicBrainz
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but anyway,
the point was
that inasmuch as she's not published her cunt her education is quite appalingly poor.
mircea_popescu: (if you've not seen
that film btw... you might have
to. possibly worst film ever made + 10 minutes of monica belucci being raped in
the dirt)
mircea_popescu: how does
the french underground go from rengaine
to "Irreversible" ?
BingoBoingo: <decimation> a more interesting question is: how does 'black music' go from louis armstrong
to
thug rap in 50 years? << CIA corruption
mircea_popescu: decimation
the white hierarchy supporting society collapsed ?
decimation: a more interesting question is: how does 'black music' go from louis armstrong
to
thug rap in 50 years?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: beats antique is sort of in
the genre of mention
mircea_popescu: yes, on a first listen. but i'm culturally rigid enough
to generally regard
the entire
thing as you know... little more
than children babbling.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever listened
to
the album in question?
decimation: ben_vulpes: in
the world of ex-gov't employees collecting
their post-employment paychecks,
this was a pretty stupid case
ben_vulpes: i figure
this is related
to why i can't make any money scamming "nobody will ever fall for
that!"
ben_vulpes: i can't wrap my head around how
these people would give dryuns kids jobs and not see
this coming
ten miles away
decimation: "According
to her plea agreement, Druyun contacted Sears four years ago and asked if he could arrange a Boeing job for her daughter's
then-boyfriend, Michael McKee. McKee was "immediately contracted" by Sears and began working at Boeing in September 2000,
the document shows."
assbot: Daughter shielded in Boeing scandal - Chicago
Tribune
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm now playing
The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill loud enough for
the bums outside
the warehouse
to hear
decimation: ben_vulpes: you mean how did
they get her
to
talk?
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah
that's how I read it.
the
taxpayers "needed"
to give
that money away, and plenty of 'legitimate' boeing execs will get golden parachutes, etc.
mircea_popescu: "how dares
this lowly individual give boeing money we'd have given it anyway"
mircea_popescu: but having someone
to scapegoat is always
the preferred avenue. poor abakumov.
mircea_popescu: decimation "scam" only inasmuch as boeing is
tbtf anyway, so without
this scam it'd have had
to be a different scam.
decimation: it is well known
that
the way
to 'game'
this system is
to provide very favorable business
terms
to a large company, who will hire you after you 'retire' for a very large salary
decimation: USG doesn't allow gov't employees
to have free meals or more
than $20 per year in gifts from potential 'business' contacts
ben_vulpes: ;;later
tell ognasty do stop in
to
the channel of record and explain how i'm abusing
the WoT rating system.
decimation: mircea_popescu: my experience is
that most fleecing of
the
taxpayers
takes place by former gov't employees
mircea_popescu: and in
the same vein : i find it amusing
that folks in a quarrel with
the government hire government agents
to "defend"
them at significant expense.
decimation: I find
this
to be as likely as darth vader abiding by his verbal contract
decimation: the latest deal is 'roth' -
the deal being
that if you pay
taxes now, usg promises never
to
tax your earnings on
that money again
decimation: asciilifeform: I find it amusing
that folks with retirement accounts work so hard
to 'shelter'
them from
taxation under
the latest rules, as if usg would allow one
to accumulate wealth without
taking it
mircea_popescu: the same argument could be made by a blonde
twerking ditz going "it's not
that she ever ran into anything labeled physics"
mircea_popescu: it's not
that when i ran into
the local mobsters i immediately knew. it's
that
they ALSO figured it out within five minutes.
decimation: mircea_popescu: it is rarely
the case
that one walks around
the city finding
things labeled 'mob'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is why stuff like 1984 are so good.
the fuckwit hero actually believes
that o'brien is
the guy
to go
to for
the secret book.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's
this fresh danielpbarron drama BigBitz ? << My best impression is he is
trying
to WoT up a bunch of local acquaintances and... old
tensions and dramas come forth, but I lack context
to interpret severity...
ben_vulpes: i got my first negrating
this month guys
decimation is innocent of
the mob, in a midwestern way
mircea_popescu: as an ~urban~ institution mind you. it has nothing
to do with italians, other
than in
the sense italians were at
the
time
the most urban ethnic group in
the us
decimation: asciilifeform: it's amusing
to what degree folks are willing
to comply with plainly idiotic usg regulations
mircea_popescu: decimation
that for one
thing. for
the other,
the only way
to read yarvin's definition outside of "the mob" would require absolute midwestern innocence of
the mob
ben_vulpes: of fucking course bingo,
the latter is black and makes better music
ben_vulpes: hook from
the latter "i guess
that cunt gettin' eatin"
assbot: 80% AR-15 Lower Receiver Determination Letter from
the ATF -
The Firearm Blog
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BingoBoingo: Went from being promising
to scamsite so fast
that one did
decimation: mircea_popescu: I would ceratianly agree
that whatever one wants
to label "brahmin culture" in
the us, it hasn't contributed much
to global human capital
BingoBoingo: cazalla:
The GAW
thing smells so much of scam and marketing Y as X
mircea_popescu: what's next, capitalist profit = robbery of
the workers ?
mircea_popescu: um. you're playing
too fast and kinda loose with
the definitions.
decimation: robbing said urban poor folk
to propagandize
their children
mircea_popescu: <decimation> is professor a criminal or part of
the overclass? <<
to be a criminal he'd have
to commit a crime. what's
the crime here ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: phun phact. in usa,
the popular 'm16/ar' rifle is not legally 'arms' if it is missing
the little aluminum part
that holds
the clip and
trigger mechanism. << According
to US definitions
that part IS
the rifle
mircea_popescu: <decimation> mircea_popescu: growing up in
the 90's I witnessed Brahmin culture shift from vaguely rock 'n roll
to
thug rap << wut ?!