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decimation: heh that was a terrible movie, vague remember that part.
asciilifeform can't help but remember that atrocious film, where the last remaining tanker, still full, inhabited by motorcycle (!) gang, which smokes.
decimation: like, the entire population is ready for some weird road warrior future maybe?
decimation: there is something deeply weird about the average usian's compunction to get in a car to go 1/2 mile
asciilifeform: there even exist special grounds devoted to shanty towns where people live in (normally engine-less) trailers.
asciilifeform: (for the psychiatric rumunations re: how & why - straight to herr orlov)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a transition in the lifecycle
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i saw this yes.
asciilifeform: in that folks will liquidate their dwelling, clothes, etc. - to fuel the beast.
decimation: definitely, it's easy to find 'car bums'
asciilifeform: to the point that, ask american, what he will do immediately prior to starving, he'll answer - 'live in car'
decimation: usg does much to encourage this notion among the masses
asciilifeform: so pretty much everyone imagines that they merit a personal box on wheels, and carries on living the pretense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only justified transport.
asciilifeform: can she afford to come over for a fuck >> in usa, transport is massively subsidized (see earlier discussions re: silicon valley & slave labour for why)
decimation: I suspect half of the 'occupy' protesters were either unpaid 'interns' or students living on mommy's stipend
mircea_popescu: (and for a needed counterbalance in all the "onoes pesos" derpage : argentinian hipster chick - mostly can)
mircea_popescu: self-projected pretense to the contrary notwithstanding
mircea_popescu: seems to me if she can't even afford to get fucked she must be pretty damned cheap.
decimation: so their cost is well distributed among the population (group)
mircea_popescu: can she afford to come over for a fuck ?
mircea_popescu: decimation suppose you meet one of them, and you really like each other.
decimation: mircea_popescu: in the 'street beggar' sense?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> the us is too poor to afford leeches who climatederp all day << they doin';t really cost as much as all that.
decimation: or take a well-paid sinecure in 'industry'
asciilifeform: the braindamage is baked in. a hypothetical set of intelligent minions would just despair and fellate their pistols.
decimation: one wonders about the brain-damaged minions employed by usg to oversee such things
decimation: I once spoke with an ee prof who explained that he had to justify his error correction/information theory research in terms of helping poor minorities
decimation: yeah it's hard to get much more 'nano' than ripping apart hydrocarbons for energy
asciilifeform: we use them.
asciilifeform: arguably even the concept of a 'good' battery has fundamental problems
decimation: it's just too bad that batteries are so terrible
decimation: the ionosphere is a worthy research target, I'm just not sure a giant HF transmitter will help much in unraveling its secrets
decimation: the us is too poor to afford leeches who climatederp all day
asciilifeform: (idea of pumping the ionosphere to solve the 'mains socket in your pocket' problem is quite old. dates to at least n. tesla.)
asciilifeform: who were freed up now to climatederp
asciilifeform: built. tried.
decimation: of course I would rank haarp research far above most social science derpage, at least they are building stuff, trying ideas
asciilifeform: usa is a circus for the eternal war between welfare leeches with degrees and ones without
decimation: perhaps said Congressmen could find a few hundred welfare recipients of various kinds to give up their benefits for ionospheric research
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decimation: "HAARP put the world on notice two years ago that it would be shutting down and did not submit a budget request for FY 15, Keeney said, “but no one paid any attention.” Now, he says, they’re complaining. “People came unglued,” Keeney said, noting that he’s already had inquiries from Congress. Universities that depended upon HAARP research grants also are upset, he said."
decimation: asciilifeform: yes, I think you are right http://www.arrl.org/news/haarp-facility-shuts-down << hams hated it because of the HF spam
assbot: Multi-hop whistler-mode ELF/VLF signals and triggered emissions excited by the HAARP HF heater | Stanford VLF Group
decimation: asciilifeform: there's also the "HAARP" http://vlf.stanford.edu/pubs/multi-hop-whistler-mode-elfvlf-signals-and-triggered-emissions-excited-haarp-hf-heater
assbot: Orgia studenteasca pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
decimation: decoding the enciphered stream is an exercise for the interested reader :)
assbot: VLF transmitter DHO38 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: asciilifeform: that 'websdr' page allows you to listen to existing elf/vlf transmitters like DHO38 (it comes in loud and strong) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLF_transmitter_DHO38
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BingoBoingo: To most Norte Americanos even UK English is as foreign to them as any Romance Language as the vocaulary on its own is an insurmountable barrier even before approaching grammar
asciilifeform: (rumour has it that it was obsoleted by a clever satellite downlink employing laser)
asciilifeform suspects that costliest telegraph bits, not including his 'blockchaintelegraph', were the american 'elf' naval transmitter - before the latter was scrapped for cost reasons
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, it's how this international thing works in its actually useful incarnations.
decimation: asciilifeform: Taleb would say that some bit redundancy is probably a good idea
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the idea that there's more than one peoples reading romanian encourages me. im writing a large piece now and ima link a ton of good romanian material, all quite relevant and i imagine a lot moire instructive to teh english native than the romanian.
asciilifeform: and of course the costliest bits: mistaken ones.
decimation: asciilifeform: as in machining a plate carrying said bits, or the bits required to control the machine?
asciilifeform: why stop there. consider cost of, e.g., cnc machining, 'bitwise.'
decimation: asciilifeform: or try bouncing some bits off the moon
assbot: Orgia studenteasca pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2012/orgia-studenteasca/ < ever read this one ?
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asciilifeform: early TTY machines did not use ascii << try as they might, couldn't have - ascii was standardized in '63.
decimation: obviously Putin et.al. are convinced that any western opposition is going to be weak and divided. I suspect he even has tacit approval from Germany
decimation: asciilifeform: it is amusing to watch Russia call the west's bluff on this matter
decimation: ben_vulpes: I can. see ascii's blockchain teleprinter
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decimation: 26 letters + 10 numbers = 36, which is 4 more than 2^5, unfortunately. so there were many schemes for attempting to 'squeeze' 36 (plus control chars) into 5 bits
assbot: Baudot code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: interestingly these early TTY machines did not use ascii, they used something like baudot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code
decimation: ben_vulpes: that was probably a word processor like this: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/wang2200a/
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=760175.0 << This GAW thing seems more and more dangerous... to idiots
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo inasmuch as you know that there's a phase 4, you also know your addressing didn't work. << You know sometimes this works a la Dallas. Sometimes this doesn't like Dennis Rodman.
assbot: FISH and the Jellyfish Convoy - TICOM Archive
decimation: this is what the german wwii enciphered RTTY machines looked like:
ben_vulpes: there were 4 lines of lcd (or maybe only 2, i was a wee one at the time) and then transmitted them to the poo-snaper via fax iirc
ben_vulpes: my mother once wrote her articles on a 4 line typewriter-cum-puter thing
decimation: (for radio teletype (rtty))
decimation: traditionally one uses frequency-shift keying over radio to send these characters, using a restricted character set
ben_vulpes: there's like 80 years of decisions in this thing.
ben_vulpes: lol decimation i have that precise url open right now already
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah this problem again...
ben_vulpes: teletype, which...ancient transmission of text hardware?
assbot: Teleprinter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah, i figured tty was involved but what does that first 't' stand for?
ben_vulpes: is this one of those "tar" -> "tape archive" things?
decimation: terminal being in this case a kind of typewriter that can be remotely controlled
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo inasmuch as you know that there's a phase 4, you also know your addressing didn't work.
decimation: heh, no teletype is an old-school method of transmitting ascii/baudot from a computer/remote station to your 'terminal'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's like, what's the difference between phase 2 and phase 4 lymphoma ? << The chance of addessing the problem completely with a knife and some anti-folates?
ben_vulpes: on a radically different topic (if nobody minds), when miscellaneous computerboxen tell me "falling back to teletype" is that a reference to the Teletype Corporation of the thirties?
ben_vulpes: in the "socialize the losses, privitize the gains"?
mircea_popescu: it's like, what's the difference between phase 2 and phase 4 lymphoma ?
ben_vulpes: i mean i have no clue. perhaps communism is just a thing that the us progpagandacrats came up with to point at to distract the proles from that as what was going on on the daily at home
BingoBoingo: decimation> yes, it's useful anyway. By that definition, the usg 'anti-communists' I mentioned above are quite simply socialists with a beef against the soviets << I dunno any other explanation for Patton's political positions.
decimation: yes, it's useful anyway. By that definition, the usg 'anti-communists' I mentioned above are quite simply socialists with a beef against the soviets
mircea_popescu: hint : the group doesn't actually exist, not in any way meaningful on the plane where the individuals do. consequently, both these come up with pretty contorted and quickly insane misrepresentations of the group
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: for the poor student - what is a real economy? << One that doesn't resemble the dating environment in a prison