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mircea_popescu: anyway, what irks me isn't the weirdo stuff in the us as much as the memetic tendency. if it worked like, "if you want women to park anywhere and bakers to bake anything, go to ohio ; if you want women to not be allowed to park anywhere, go to montana" etc it'd be fine.
mircea_popescu: which is why so much lobby to not distinguish natural and manufactured women
chetty: mircea_popescu, well it used to be like that nayway, these days it can be a choice
mircea_popescu: it's quite logical, if you care to follow the twisted remants of logic inside the system
mircea_popescu: a woman is a woman afore the state.
mircea_popescu: chetty a baker applies for permission to be a baker.
diametric: bakers aren't afforded the luxury of a special status
chetty: personally I have trouble seeing the difference between "women can't park here." and bakers must bake any cake requested
assbot: How the other half lives, or Michael O. Church is a scummy fuckwit pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: in principle, disallowing absurd selection practices for employers may be unavoidable. otherwise, think of that church idiot and his "advice"
diametric: asciilifeform: there are only very specific sets of things hoas can't do. For example they can't say "no blacks allowed" or "women can't park here."
asciilifeform ianal, does not know if 'integral torture' on real estate sales would be permitted in usa
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also, the thing you cite is employment law.
asciilifeform: though, if i recall, it concerned employment rather than real estate
mircea_popescu: only if you take fed money.
diametric: usually hoas are run by bored housewives and middle managers that want to feel the power of lording over people.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i recall that if your torture test ends up affecting one ethnic faction more than another, you get in hot water
mircea_popescu: ha! i beat someone to it for once, even if it was 2nd pass.
mircea_popescu: diametric may have a point. you can prolly ge away with a community agreement where every tenant has to play scrabble or some shit
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diametric: asciilifeform: re: home owners associations. they can basically place any number of arbitrary conditions on home ownership.
asciilifeform: diametric: really? i was told it was banned as 'racist' at one point.
asciilifeform: point not being that i personally relish integral puzzles, but that if it were possible to escape usaschwitz by getting good at them, i'd be inclined to try.
diametric: asciilifeform: you actually can make stipulations like that in american housing.
mircea_popescu: let teenagers suck the cock and do the integrals, wtf are they for.
mircea_popescu: i got more $mil than #patience.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck ?
asciilifeform: but i'd rather do these integrals every ten minutes, than be asked to come up with $mil.
asciilifeform can't be arsed. does not frequent said forums, or advocate this recipe.
chetty: not so very different than making people jump through gpg hoops to get voice in here
mircea_popescu: well is this one ?
mircea_popescu: does that russian forum actually expect someone to type out (2/3 * x ** (2/3))/((3/4 * x ** (3/4) -(6/7 * x ** (6/7) )+x as a reply to a captcha ?
asciilifeform brings this up as example of something that you certainly, definitely, under threat of harsh punishments, could not get away with in allocation of american housing.
mircea_popescu: heh. so the top is what, like 2/3x^2/3 + x ?
asciilifeform: and the like.
mircea_popescu: what am i supposed to be, 18 ?!
The20YearIRCloud: If i'm going in those areas, i'm getting land for the land, not to build cheap houses
asciilifeform: (perhaps mircea_popescu and i might've forgotten how to grind gnarly integrals mentally, but we still have the neurons to grind with 'macsyma' etc.)
mircea_popescu: but it's simple pattern recognition, right ? of the ilk of "what is x2 + y2 + 2xy"
mircea_popescu: haha they actually use integrals as captchas ?
asciilifeform: doesn't have to be integrals. i just picked an example from 'captchas' used on some russian forums.
assbot: Logged on 06-04-2014 14:59:26; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok. considering the what/how debate as accepted foundation : at any time there's a number of turkeys and a number of engineers.
mircea_popescu: im not even sure i could do integration by hand, outside of recognising the formulaic equivalents.
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't, THAT has to be fixed, not this.
mircea_popescu: the idea holds water tho. money is supposed to work as an iq-meter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "and their capitols"
asciilifeform: or even 'name the 50 states of usa'
asciilifeform: cannot, for example, 'to buy property here you must solve this here single-variable integral.'
asciilifeform: those aren't areas I want property in << designated ghettoschwitzes, yes. notice how it is highly illegal to keep out scum other than through real estate pricing, in any part of usa.
asciilifeform: if could afford to escape - would. just like every other schmuck
mircea_popescu: yeah well, partisan dugouts in the us may have to wait a few years.
asciilifeform: gotta be in usa << currently. (as discussed in the past)
The20YearIRCloud: there's areas where I live that they don't care what you put up or what you live in (Sheds included), but those aren't areas I want property in
mircea_popescu: well yeah. was a bunch o people, they got building permit and proceeded to built like at home. concrete pillars, brick walls etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall a story of yours, about a chum who went to usa and left in disgust, when he was not permitted to build other than a cardboard house.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it'd be great, but would have to be deep in a forest, secret, with a stump for a chimney - just like during the war. because living in something that isn't a house is highly illegal in usa (unless part of a designated ghettoschwitz)
mircea_popescu: i hear all the truant tattooed teenagers swarm there
asciilifeform has workshop in a very large garden shed, that came with current rental. itches every time coming out of it.
asciilifeform: fiberglass toxic << yes
asciilifeform: big glass << laugh all you like, 'corning co.' is one of the few remaining mega-industrial giants in usa
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud how do you keep the wevils out ?
nubbins`: BIG GLASS IS IN THE TREES
The20YearIRCloud: There's this one type of soy insullation we want, it's 4x more efficient per cubic meter than anything fiberglass has to offer, and some municipalities still don't allow
mircea_popescu: fiberglass isn't that bad, but it's fucking toxyc.
The20YearIRCloud: the fiberglass people a pretty crazy when it comes to supressing new types of insullation
nubbins`: wait, i thought it was unions that did his house-pod things in
The20YearIRCloud: We're just catching on to doing steel skinned, soy insullated houses
asciilifeform: real estate parasite scum live, breathe, to keep housing costly.
asciilifeform: for the same reason buckminster fuller's injection-molded plastic house was banned.
rithm: mircea_popescu i totally do not follow the chat and just jump in randomly as if i knew what were going on
The20YearIRCloud: At least, a trailer lives up to code when it was built, and it isn't illegal to use one that's old as dirt
asciilifeform: Not legal in my area to use a shipping container << perhaps you can guess why.
rithm: shipping container buried the side of a hill sounds lovely to me
The20YearIRCloud: Not legal in my area to use a shipping container
mircea_popescu: why not just buy shipping containers then. not so expensive, can be stacked...
asciilifeform would happily live in a refrigerator truck, or a partizan dugout, or similar, if it didn't come with being corralled into a ghetto of similar wretches
rithm: closer to 1000
mircea_popescu: what's the floor surface of a trailer ? 200sq ft ?
The20YearIRCloud: But the premise is to take crappy trailers, and have my guys refurbish them in a way that they'd be superior to most conventionally built houses with regards to energy, and then rent em out for median pricing
asciilifeform: mortages grow on gubermint trees << more complicated than this. no houses in the usual sense, near what remains of civilization in usa, are permitted to cost less than mid six digit.
mircea_popescu: so what is that, the ohio happy brothel ?
ThickAsThieves: i rented a trailer when i first moced to fl
The20YearIRCloud: I've got a pretty good concept of what i want to do, just need a municipality where I can do it legally
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud trailers ?!
chetty: asciilifeform, no need for that anymore, mortages grow on gubermint trees
asciilifeform thought trailer was for 'owning home' when you only have a few thousand usd in pocket
asciilifeform: wait - people rent these?
The20YearIRCloud: we're looking at two different lots that have them, i'm pretty darn excited, it all gets me one step closer to being the slumlord I desire
The20YearIRCloud: I found a few singlewide trailers for our company
asciilifeform: form a circle let's hold hands << in old science fiction, it'd have been 'cripple builds cybernetic mega-coc, proceeds to kill worlds'
mircea_popescu: ^ prolly done to death.
ThickAsThieves: good tshirt for a porn actress
mircea_popescu: anyway, the us-agitprop makes me chaf. "o noes, you can do anything, retards are people too, form a circle let's hold hands"
ThickAsThieves: cock must be this big to ride
ThickAsThieves: well, the goal is to be entertained, not impressed per se :)
mircea_popescu: isn't it some derpy "kid wants to be fighter jet pilot, cock not big enough, o lala la drama" story ?
mircea_popescu: i think i have.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, the pill just makes you uber horny.
ThickAsThieves: ever seen than movie?
mircea_popescu: im almost tempted by your theory. "you can sleep better if you never have sex again. here's the pill"