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chetty: if you actually figured out all your tax in us wouldnt be much diff
mircea_popescu: their deal is, "we have all this oil, we will spend the proceeds on welfare, in exchange we also take everyone's money"
asciilifeform: (seems like norway has, or at least had at the time, a confiscatory tax scheme where you lose essentially 100 percent after a certain point.)
asciilifeform: at one point he figured out that, given taxation law in No, his standard of living would not much change if he cut his consulting to 2-3 months of a year.
asciilifeform: here's what i recall (any other delvers in naggum archive, feel free to correct)
mircea_popescu: well then dunno.
mircea_popescu: well, amateur in the "this is what i think the law should be" school of amateurship, or amateur in the "trying to figure out what this thing is" school of amateurship ?
mircea_popescu: is to think of a basic program of equal length.
mircea_popescu: the cleanest way to represent the legal tradition, as well as the legal implementation of that tradition in any extant sovereign of the fiat, geographical, obsolete kind,
mircea_popescu: i have little faith the man was actually apt to follow the legal intricacies, which altogether require a different mind than one which wilfully chose lisp over say basic.
asciilifeform: there's more detail in other posts, i think.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform course, that's his off the cuff interpretation of what happened.
mircea_popescu: So the easy question to ask is this: “Are you trying to figure out whether to change? Or trying to figure out which change to make?” << good point. first category needs to hire a manager, not talk to salesmen.
mircea_popescu: not the sorts of jobs one can do and remain in possession of his wits.
mircea_popescu: same thing with cops. people don't like the psychopatholgy of policemen, but then again the same "people" are lying and trying to beat down the cop two dozen times a day
mircea_popescu: "You can’t simply ask someone if they have no intention of buying a Macintosh. Everybody lies, especially to salespeople." << the funny thing in there is, people generally despise SALESMEN for being lying scumbags. but, in fact, people lie to them as an article of faith, and in sheer volume necessarily exceed anything the salesman could push out.
asciilifeform: (whole thing worth reading)
asciilifeform: '...the Norwegian government, which for a few years decided to tax me based on what I should have been _able_ to earn, and therefore _probably_ earned without reporting to them, so I should pay taxes on it, plus penalties for lying to them...'
mircea_popescu: didja do your homework ? yessir. didja learn anything ? o, no, i wouldn't do that!
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mircea_popescu: "They weren’t interested in finding out whether Macintosh would be useful for them: They were interested in being able to say to the world that they have an open mind and researched all the possibilities, but somehow, somehow, they finished up back where they started, using the same damn thing that everyone else is using."
mircea_popescu: but it starts looking badly if they somehow manage to stay.
mircea_popescu: hey, nobody's fault they were born among imbeciles.
chetty is glad you put the 'good' modifier in there
mircea_popescu: there's nothing more shameful than being a good usian.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3129896583995790@naggum.no.html << naggum & the tax men
mircea_popescu: this is what the idiotic us puritan obsession with propriety has gotten. this. it's a scourge upon humanity and a shameful macula of untold disgrace.
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mircea_popescu: fuck that. i'll fire you for being bland.
mircea_popescu: "What they really meant was, Nobody ever got fired for buying a Windows Box."
mircea_popescu: Would these people buy a Macintosh? No. But they would take up a lot of our time asking “What is the benefit of Mac? Why is it superior to Windows? Explain why we should I buy one for each employee.” And no matter how interested they seemed, and no matter what we said or did, they would weigh their options… and then buy a Windows computer."
mircea_popescu: "In those days, nobody bought Macintoshes. But strangely, our office was besieged by people wanting us to demonstrate the Macintosh and its nifty features.
assbot: Herd Thither, Me Hither (revised)
mircea_popescu: http://braythwayt.com/2013/11/27/herd-thither-me-hither.html < not a bad read this.
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mircea_popescu: i'll readily contend that naggum is a sufficient, if by no means the only good reason to dismantle any statal revenue service.
mircea_popescu: if turing is a good (and in fact the only) good reason to dismantle the statally organised repression of gayness
mircea_popescu: oh teh norvegian revenue service. heh. fucktards.
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mircea_popescu: "He ran in to some very serious problems that poisoned his existence for many years, and made him lose faith in humans. These problems (I won’t go into details, let sleeping dogs lie) would have agonized anyone, but most people would, in time, have come to terms with life’s injustice and cruelty." << asciilifeform what, was the guy in jail or something ?
thestringpuller: i understand your notion tho :P
thestringpuller: i think the end they made a business on letting his wife get fucked by millionaires but I'm fuzzy
mircea_popescu: maybe because you don't wanna sleep in the bed where all the random bacteria off random cocks collect and pool.
thestringpuller: there is a movie about that.
mircea_popescu: why fuck your own wife when someone will pay to fuck her for you, for that matter.
thestringpuller: what if you don't care about that and just the money?
mircea_popescu: because they'll make it shitty.
thestringpuller: why make the movie yourself when someone will pay you to make it for you
thestringpuller: so much money in licensing though
mircea_popescu: people have this constant naive approach, a pipe breaks ? push your palm on it.
mircea_popescu: at the cost of killing the whole copyright notion altogether.
bounce: to the point that as soon as the mouse threatens to go out of copyright, copyright gets extended
mircea_popescu: donald is one of the very few well managed franchises.
mircea_popescu: my money is on the latter really.
bounce is sure there's a libarts dissertation or two in there somewhere
bounce: could have to do with the demographic, where teen memory is slightly longer than pre-teen memory so they (feel they) need regular reboots to capture the demographic or something. could also have to do with the writers not being on a short enough leash. dunno really.
mircea_popescu: http://perpelle.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/iberkeley-liten.jpg <<< asciilifeform dunno if that's naggum or not, but i gotta say that'd be the prototype for the romanian "fata de-mpins vagoane", ie, railcart pushing face
mircea_popescu: chetty no i mean teenagers and young adults.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> chetty well you're not in the demographic you know ?// you mean libtards? I dun have to be in it to be sick of it
xmj: you're crazy yourself. law of attraction, like attracts like, all that
xmj: same thing here.
xmj: thestringpuller: then you're legit crazy
xmj: thestringpuller: do the people from the other gender you attract mostly exhibit craziness?
mircea_popescu: bounce well to be honest (and i've unstudiously avoided both for two decades or more), they're all the same one thing, and so the classics have been badly reimplemented by the us pulp industry many times, and they keep rebooting it
thestringpuller: people tell me that I'm crazy a lot!
bounce doesn't really want to know but can't help but wonder what the top reboot count is, and which series.
thestringpuller: i'm almost certain hanbot is a partial robot though you say she is human ~_~
bounce: a series isn't a series without a reboot or two, apparently.
mircea_popescu: then they bitch about how it's being replicated.
mircea_popescu: bounce now why'd that be amazing. it's supposed to be cheap and replicable.
bounce: (says me, having studiously avoided both for the last couple of years, as much as possible anyway)
mircea_popescu: chetty well you're not in the demographic you know ?
bounce: here, take a happy pill
chetty is totally sick and tired of the girls vs. boys crap
mircea_popescu: thoroughly debunked argument tho. http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spiderwomans_ass
chetty: well if girls got actual armor they might play more :P
mircea_popescu: so the girls build their girlclub to support each other through puberty and dream of one day being married.
mircea_popescu: this is like junior high courtyard bs. the girls get upset that the boys ignore them so they complain. which the boys ignore, because the girls stink and are stupid and who wants to be involved with one.
mircea_popescu: im kinda surprised they noticed and even care.
thestringpuller: it's just funny to me that even "gamers" are sick of the feminist...
thestringpuller: I'm certain you'd sue someone who steals that idea...
mircea_popescu: i could be him, if i ever deign to write for forbes, which seems unlikely unless i buy it and then it'll be Popescu
thestringpuller: What it boils down to is many people feeling upset that the video game space has been so heavily politicized with a left-leaning, feminist-driven slant," he said.
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asciilifeform: (i had no part in this, it was all long after i left)
asciilifeform: neat balloon pic though.
decimation: could buy on ebay at that quality level
asciilifeform: ' Physical components are in great condition, vacuum testing and electronics replacement is underway.'
decimation: yeah they want $50 per month http://www.hacdc.org/membership/ << they have scanning electron microscope now apparently
asciilifeform: incidentally, the ruined church where 'hack-dc' met also hosted a 'clojure' society. after attending a few meetings and trying to actually put the system to use, i ended up writing... well, that post.
asciilifeform: afaik these started out as banal 'communal workshop' arrangements
decimation: it seems the hype for those things outstrips the actual usefulness - usefulness defined as meeting actual people working on interesting ideas
asciilifeform: went a dozen or so times, some years ago. snore.
decimation: asciilifeform: did you ever show up at the dc 'maker space'?
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asciilifeform: when i walk by that thing, hard to escape the feeling that my 'ratfacecage' is waiting there, in the cellars somewhere.
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