log☇︎
621100+ entries in 0.334s
moriarty: lol then again i don't think many people in here know too much about stocks or ##econometrics
BingoBoingo: moriarty: Aristocracy is great, but... You've got to maintain a position in it. If you suck it doesn't matter that you're a Borgia.
xmj: but first, i have to finish porting GitLab to FreeBSD, it'll be done by tonight.
moriarty: it's to the tune of 8 billion yearly
xmj: fluffypony: yeah, he's currently driving me up the walls.
moriarty: do you realise the extent of NSA's contractual dishouts?
fluffypony: moriarty is best troll
BingoBoingo: The point is if you are a Hilton that sucks, you can make porn or Biodiesel.
moriarty: xmj, oh you want something more direct, try t-bills
moriarty: xmj, you thought the NSA was designed for something other than economic superiority?
xmj: bounce: that's a perfectly valid strategy
bounce: but the takeaway ought to be that you (ie, those in power) are rigging the system then blaming the victims for having let the system end up being rigged against them.
xmj: USD does not represent equity in the US government.
xmj: moriarty: not the same thing
moriarty: xmj, just buy the USD
bounce: if everybody does that then they're no longer superior
assbot: Welcome to the City of London Corporation
moriarty: i.e. when you pass it on to some offspring, you don't have to fix it again
moriarty: bounce, if you can fix your genes to be permanently superior, then i'm all for it
moriarty: bounce, well, i am not against genetic therapy, as long as it's a permanent change and not a superficial treatment
xmj: can't do that with NSA Inc.
xmj: bounce: the cheaper option is to prevent dysgenics..
moriarty: xmj, it's funny how google and NSA have the same objectives as organisations
moriarty: xmj, at least i'm not google, i don't pretend to do no evil :) and then rape everyone
bounce: logical conclusion from your own troll, dear
bounce: will you donate the money for gene therapy against poorness to any and all poor who come asking?
moriarty: bounce, it's the new world where if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide
moriarty: if you're poor then, well, you need to get started on balancing all the red in your ledgers
bounce: we can do so much better, yet aren't doing it. we're making unnecessary tradeoffs and are telling ourselfs it's the best we can have so suck it up
moriarty: and that offsets whatever you did wrong
moriarty: if you're rich, then chances are you're doing something right
moriarty: bounce, and what's wrong with that
bounce: that's a false dichotomy and therefore rationalisation bullshit
bounce: tangentially, the more money and/or (benign) visibility you have, the easier it gets to right certain wrongs, perversely supporting broken systems like this.
moriarty: bounce, there's always a tradeoff between convenience and security/privacy never forget that
bounce: more specifically, the banking system is now so unavoidable (yet) and so privacy unfriendly that it's quickly becoming more of a hazard than a boon for the clients.
moriarty: it's about time such abuses were prevented
moriarty: lol thank god for the k-line
fluffypony: bounce: its because they were designed when ancient and crummy infrastructure was still a thinf
moriarty: so what you perceive as exclusivity today came from very humble beginnings :)
moriarty: because it was mainly dealing with postal deliveries in competition with the USPS
moriarty: and of course that's how American Express got its name
bounce: the problem is that the whole thing is optimised for appearance, not substance. technically the whole credit card thing doesn't work very well.
moriarty: so if you were a customer at a bank and you shopped at a departmental store, you could use such a card to settle your transactions
moriarty: and cards came about as a tabs based system between banks and departmental stores or oil companies
moriarty: so Visa came about from the now defunct IBANCO and Mastercard's counterpart is ICA
moriarty: or two in this case
moriarty: sure, Visa and Mastercard are actually a consortium of banks that came together to merge their electronic funds transfer networks into one
xmj: AmEx does that directly
xmj: banks need to refurbish Visa+MC.
xmj: VISA + MasterCard provide the infrastructure but not the credit carts itself
xmj: also: not the only difference.
moriarty: but they're being crowded out by more prestigious but newer players
moriarty: they target the upper segment of the market
xmj: there's american express, too
cazalla: BingoBoingo, these things almost alwawys come out down under
xmj: thestringpuller: that's what happens when people actually start reading bloated software. same thing with openssl after libressl fork.
xmj: but, they're with moderate impact
thestringpuller: this is sorta terrifying
bounce: because compared to that evil cash, visa and mastercard are so much better propositions... for the customer.
thestringpuller: silent as fuck tonight
BingoBoingo: Fuckers better win this baseball game
asciilifeform: if you get the same old crater - perhaps he lives elsewhere
danielpbarron: but try to nuke God; see what happens.
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform likes to suggest pondering theological implications of a glassed middle east << With sufficient yields can make spotting the oil easier
danielpbarron: the hypothetical nuking of Israel, that is.
danielpbarron: I doubt it very much, since the city of Jerusalem is literally God
assbot: Why Christians Are Criticizing Cruz—and Israel | The American Conservative
asciilifeform likes to suggest pondering theological implications of a glassed middle east
decimation: danielpbarron: I'm not accusing you of anything - I am just tired of nominal Christians in the us kowtowing to Israel
assbot: Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
danielpbarron: how could I know such a thing?
decimation: danielpbarron: how many Christian churches actively proselytize the Jews?
decimation: therefore I am dubious that folk would be able to differentiate
assbot: Romans 11:19-24 NKJV - You will say then, Branches were - Bible Gateway
BingoBoingo: In the courtroom, who doesn't want a pipe hitting member of the tribe on their team?
BingoBoingo: And in Law school the Goy's can't call out aspiring goy's because PC
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: More people want a Goy lawyer, but don't want an actual Goy. The actual goys tend to retreat to either left coast after law school.
asciilifeform: or is it that other folks won't go to a 'goy' lawyer ?
asciilifeform: lol, lawyers have ethnic mafia there ?
BingoBoingo: The tend to be ostracized by actual people of Yweh's nose, but no local WASPs care
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (for the ethnowank aficionados, it is generally thought that limonov was a 'paper' jew - i.e. signed on as one to get visa to usa) << In the middle West you get plastic jews, people who undergoe trans ethnicism for lawyer jobs
asciilifeform: (he appears to know how)
asciilifeform: or let him explain how to recreate the lifestyle of a mongol hordesman in modern times
asciilifeform: we could start with his idea of 'young and old men ought to live in separate countries.'
asciilifeform: herr l. is near the top of my list of rich'n'famous folks i'd personally enjoy seeing in here.
asciilifeform: (for the ethnowank aficionados, it is generally thought that limonov was a 'paper' jew - i.e. signed on as one to get visa to usa)
BingoBoingo: I mean the french can do it well, just when we have aspiring diesel that would suppose "Freedom Fries"
decimation: I look forward to the next regime change in the us so that the 'anti-communists' can be named
BingoBoingo: dub> 50 types of forcemeat the soviet dream << There is good forcemeat
dub: 50 types of forcemeat the soviet dream
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> decimation: 'favored ally' of the fdr socialists << nope. of the anti-soviet u.s. 'backbone' << Patton's "Murica
asciilifeform: decimation: folks from soviet blok were lured with imaginary 'nice' jobs, the proverbial fifty types of sausage, posh cars, etc.
danielpbarron: God causes all things; there is no "need to."
asciilifeform: decimation: engineered 'brain drain' was a weapon in use at the time
asciilifeform: decimation: 'favored ally' of the fdr socialists << nope. of the anti-soviet u.s. 'backbone'
decimation: among other things, a sect of Christianity that is premillennial, some of whom believe that the jews must be gathered in the middle east to start the end of the world and Jesus's return
danielpbarron: i'm not sure what that means, decimation
BingoBoingo: decimation: Jews because they are the non-ISIS middle east hedgemon, gotta catch them ALL, HEDGEMON!!!
decimation: danielpbarron: don't tell me you are dispensationalist?