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mircea_popescu: chetty are
these
the shills for
that desert project selling $500k houses on land
that costs $500k per square mile ?
mircea_popescu: jesus everyone's been busy on a friday night! how am i
to have a lyf with you peoples!
assbot: Lessons from
the Argentine | Casey Research
mircea_popescu: but don't mind me, by all means, please continue, advertise
to
the social media crowd,
that's where
the power is lmao.
mircea_popescu: dignork:
they do have something commercial, but I did not look
too close <<<
then people wonder why
there's a bubble. why hello sir, when people can't be bothered with even looking at
the "products"
their name is so bad, i suspek perhaps it may be
the case
there's going
to be problems achieving cashflow. just a hunch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: also lol, mircea_popescu getting his boxes off dhcp just
today...? < no, actually, "you had one job" woman forgot
to pay netbill, ended up plugging
their wifi into one of my spares so
they can has interwebs
they don't deserve.
mircea_popescu: dub: get back
to me when you've stood in a cold noisy DC on a con call
to mumbai for 15 hours <<< virgin after her first
time : "hey, fucking is kinda fun!" old whore : "get back
to me after you've had
to clean
two dozen sailor pricks honey"
mircea_popescu: once
this support seeking habit forms, overwhelming it is nigh on impossible, and in any case overwhelming it would require
the one
thing
that its existence prevents : a working mind.
mircea_popescu: if you learn japanese when you're 1 yo, you're a native speaker. if you don't, you might be able
to learn some semblance later on, but for most people it'll never happen, and for a
tiny minority it will still overwhelmingly never be as good.
mircea_popescu: the problem being, of course,
that once
this fork has been passed
there's no way back.
there isn't a phase
transition from manchild seeking support from reality
to adult.
there's just a choice, at a narrow band of
time during preadolescence somewhere.
mircea_popescu: if children are allowed
to form support groups from reality, you will have reddit.
mircea_popescu: this is why beatings are so important for education : people will do
the right
thing just as soon as all apparent alternatives have been exhausted. if children are isolated and beaten into submission, you wil have poetry and scientific research.
mircea_popescu: myriadgetsmehard: ben you are acting like
the dinosaurs i get enough shit from man :) <<
the age old solution
tried first by
the infant confronted with
the unimpressed adults ? make an infant support group!
deedBot: Deed bundle published
to filename: 322774-1EURX82WPk2Yv6TLQMXGxwYJpaUsDs6tvj.txt
deedBot: BTC SPENT: amount_withdrawn = 0.00011000
TRACKING: BUNDLE_PENDING-1EURX82WPk2Yv6TLQMXGxwYJpaUsDs6tvj.txt
RagnarsBitch: punkman - if you wanna see deed confirmation, need
to keep bot voiced for next hour. Awaiting direction on who's
to register/ hold
the keys for it
MolokoDesk: ok. it's stopped raining here and I have some chores
to run out
there.
MolokoDesk: it creeps me out
that
there's no incoming queue.
MolokoDesk: if it doesn't work
the first
time you make another copy.
MolokoDesk: this is more like a xerox machine
that signs in blood.
MolokoDesk: I wouldn't run a
trading exchange without an incoming queue.
MolokoDesk: and didn't get an acknowledgement from deedBot about
the first one ... 3WT0JW5
MolokoDesk: notice
that punkman did 3WT0JW5
then did almost immediately 7ZHFZCPE
MolokoDesk: or someone writes a bot
to spew a few deeds
they have laying around.
MolokoDesk: It may have just been an issue. what if
two people just happen
to want
to .deed something at
the same instant?
MolokoDesk: if someone sets
the expiration
time on a pastebin
to 1 minute
that might not be so swell. Nobody should do
that
though.
MolokoDesk: the obvious solution is
to put
the pastebin
tokens into a queue and handle
them one at a
time regardless of how fast
they come in.
MolokoDesk: I
think if it's in
the process of waiting for gribble and you dump another incoming deed bundle,
the unbundler is asynchronous and can stomp on
the chain of gribble dialogs and force a new one
to start.
MolokoDesk: I
think
the sha1
test case I was using wasn't in WoT at
the
time is why I've never noticed one before.
MolokoDesk: I probably need
to add
the queue we were discussing, ragnar.
MolokoDesk: I wonder if you created a collision with
two deeds
that close
together.
cazalla: betting league
tonight BingoBoingo?
deedBot: deed keyID: 33588BE08B232B13
trust: 8 nick: punkman (valid and scheduled for next bundle)
MolokoDesk: just wanted
to check something:
that you can't set
the main channel
to a nick.
MolokoDesk: the cuckoo clock announcement at
the
top of
the hour... I'll
turn
that off now. and reload
the bot. if nobody's waiting for a bundle
to
track
to
the blockchain.
MolokoDesk: this is verbose deedBot. nothing but a
terse summary of what it decided about
the contract in your pastebin bundle at
the beginning, and an announcement of where it publishes
the hourly bundles will show eventually/soon/next
punkman: best
to minimize
the number of lines deedbot prints
MolokoDesk: I
think it has implicit
type conversion inconsistencies
too.
MolokoDesk: I use php a lot
though, as a sketchpad language for rapid prototyping. it lets one do a lot without
thinking about
the details.
MolokoDesk: another uh delusion, I guess, is
that SQL is supposed
to make it easier
to program. Every few years
there's some software putsch
that claims "you'll never have
to program again, our language is so user-friendly and intuitive" I
think SQL was originally promoted
that way. It was going
to be some 4th generation language.
bounce: two
things I dislike about sqlite really. its lack of
type checking, and it having become a bit of a hype, a "must have" in certain circles.
MolokoDesk: there's relative awful and absolute awful. Absolute awful would be something
that does a join using a loop and a bunch of separate lookups. You'll see people who use declarative languages and aren't aware of
the judo available in SQL.
They often have no idea what
the computer is actually doing, just what
the language constructs accomplish in
terms of final output.
MolokoDesk: there are all kinds of oblique proverbs about commercial software development like: "good, fast and cheap, choose any
two"
punkman: not awful is
the exception
bounce: still plenty of awful open source code Out
There
MolokoDesk: open source may have remedied
that culturally. If everyone is going
to see your code it matters what it does, how it does it and what it looks like.
bounce: some people even get paid
too much
to write good code, so
they write shitty code instead.
too expensive
to do it right.
MolokoDesk: some people get paid for coding instead of
thinking.
MolokoDesk: so you get
this quick and dirty code
that's kind of awful in such a case.
MolokoDesk: heh.there are conflicts of interest having
to do with actually having
to write and maintain a program. Many developers have no long
term relationship with
the results of
their work, so
they're concerned with optmizing return on
their
time with a customer
they're probably only going
to work with once.
punkman: bounce, and people
that know a lot of
the
theory
tend
to come up with shitty schemas
MolokoDesk: there are a lot of high level skills involved
that wouldn't be reflected in
the language reference card.
MolokoDesk: oh yeah, designing
the database
to reflect how it's going
to be used and
the semantics of
the data and
the relations between
the
tables etc.
bounce: plenty people using "sql"
turn out
to've little inklink of
the
theory backing
the
thing and so aren't very good at using it what it's for--expressing relations between data.
then you end up with a glorified key/value store, which is a waste of all
that complexity. such people
think mysql is a good idea.
MolokoDesk: knowing when
to use various joins and such
to reduce
the computational load of searches or relations between
tables.
bounce: it is if you include
the recursion extensions. how about relational algebra?
MolokoDesk: also one needs
to know about various exploits
that can get
through various "...real_sql_string()" filters
MolokoDesk: it's probably a
turing-complete language,
though I've never used it
that way.
MolokoDesk: I've been doing it for a long
time off and on. since like uh... 1980s
MolokoDesk: anyway, I don't wanna spam a bunch of newb sqlite3 agony here.
Thanks for
the suggestion regarding a new
tool.
MolokoDesk: now I have
the SQL command file
to create
the database.
MolokoDesk: ok. got it. sqlite3 RatingSystem.db
then .output FOO.txt
then .dump .quit cat FOO.txt
MolokoDesk: laff. nevermind. I was in
the wrong directory, so it was, in fact, creating
the database file.
MolokoDesk: it's like it
thinks it's opening a new database with
that name and zeros
the file.
punkman: and it destroyed
the file?
that sounds improbable
MolokoDesk: I'm sure
this
totally works if you're used
to using it.
MolokoDesk: no. it's 2.8.17 I don't admin
this box so I can't change
that.
MolokoDesk: oh.
that's because sqlite destroyed
the file when I opened it with sqlite.
MolokoDesk: (well. so far none of
the command line commands work in sqlite on a linux box with RatingSystem.db listed as
the "main" database. won't show
the
tables etc.
RagnarDanneskjol: hey punkman,
this is my friend MolokoDesk - do you mind rating him so he can self voice?
deedBot: Deed bundle published
to filename: 322765-12e5euoDVvFGoS2V2QY1CB1mn97ETfVfSM.txt
MolokoDesk checks
to see if SQLite is already installed.
MolokoDesk: deedBot needs
to be.. ok. yeah,
told
that it's now operating in
this channel using .dump
deedBot: (switching DEEDBOT_CHAN from #cex-squawk
to #bitcoin-assets)
punkman: (for some other project
that is)
punkman: but you should
try sqlite when you get a chance, it's good stuff
MolokoDesk: but yeah,
there's
the data on a platter.
MolokoDesk: especially something I already have
two solutions
to.
MolokoDesk: something can be easy but
take a week
to get working.
MolokoDesk: assuming you have sudo access on
the server it's going
to run on...
MolokoDesk: well.. let's see.. first you have
to apt-get SQLite and hope it runs...
MolokoDesk: yeah, it's easy if you want
to get involved in all
that.