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asciilifeform: so sit it under znc. why suffer with sslism in own proggy.
asciilifeform: see also
asciilifeform: indeed does
asciilifeform: ( can be sat behind znc, in principle, if for some reason really want. but i haven't )
asciilifeform: rright but e.g. my bot is sslism-free
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929258 << hrm i cannot resist to ask : what's ssl doing in there ?
asciilifeform: trinque: whatcha working on these days ?
asciilifeform: tarsnap's www indeed pretty good . i remember it from a 2015 thread.
asciilifeform: trinque's sample is a+++ imho. oughta go in.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and perhaps also , the 'Account management is done through RSA process' oughta point to mp's 'social engineering' article
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: trinque has a point ; turn the 'BMC' into link to 1 of the pertinent qntras plox
asciilifeform: btw wb trinque
asciilifeform: it's been there since 1st day of new logtron
asciilifeform: trinque: apropos -- i took the liberty to put piz banner on http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/ ( btw open to improvements, if someone knows how to draw... )
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! logotron vtree updated ; includes all currently-deployed changes .
asciilifeform: alaska not bigenuff to meet projected gula^H^H^H^Hresettlement capacity ?
asciilifeform: wai now the bargain bin.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol!! i thought crapple was to 'buy russia'
asciilifeform: oh ffs!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929170 << abolished by peter I . what's ~it~ doing in unicode ? and if ~this~ is there, wainot also egyptian hiroglyphs ?
asciilifeform: *logo
asciilifeform: ♨ << loox like 'java log' ?!! (what's it doing in unicoad? is there 'coca cola' logo also?! and if not -- wainot?? )
asciilifeform: ♞ << funnily enuff has ~ears~ on my terminals. as in no chess b00k afaik ever.
asciilifeform: or i suppose possible that these are in fact microshit 'wingdings', and the genuine q/r/etc are elsewhere in that talmud
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929178 << these btw are mutilated, as per mp's description, on erry terminal i have. evidently bakers of uniturd standard never bothered to open a maffs schoolbook...
asciilifeform: ty phf , mp_en_viaje, lobbes .
asciilifeform: will issue vpatch later tonight/tomorrow
asciilifeform: i'ma leave off with these, cuz erryone prolly already tossed their lunch ; but who has idea re others, welcome to throw in.
asciilifeform: !qs Ⓐ Ⓩ
asciilifeform: !qs ♥ ♠ ♦ ♣
asciilifeform: !qs ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦
asciilifeform: !qs ⊠ ⊡
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929204 << also eaten.
asciilifeform: http://logs.minigame.biz/2015-08-26.log.html#t20:04:33
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 0 eggog on dulap-side log.
asciilifeform now, finally, goes to tea. brb.
asciilifeform: ty for reading the paste of bot, phf ; evidently not 1 other soul read!
asciilifeform: for all i know even supports http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928981 .
asciilifeform: ^ eaten, clearly
asciilifeform: !qs °±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿
asciilifeform: incl. your log
asciilifeform: phf: i see blank line in both client and log
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plox to reissue the barfologies if you still have'em handy. whole episode may easily be 'coarse error of pilotage' of asciilifeform
asciilifeform: lobbes plox to move your bot here, where it belongs, lol
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought he had multichan support, but apparently moved it wholesale to #a-test , lol
asciilifeform: lol lobbes's bot dead ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.minigame.biz/2015-08-26.log.html#t20:04:33
asciilifeform: let's live-fire lobbes's example:
asciilifeform unplugs the one in #asciilifeform-test , is redundant nao
asciilifeform: phf-type (corrected) bot is live.
asciilifeform: 3... 2... 1...
asciilifeform: on 2nd thought, i'ma do the swap nao, ~erryone seems to be asleep
asciilifeform would like to add hexdump logging on all eggog, before resetting the main bot
asciilifeform: phf: ty; appears to be the reason for the barf seen vs. lobbes's collection of barfolade. nao need to reproduce mp_en_viaje's
asciilifeform: test bot -- reset, running.
asciilifeform: for some reason thought .strip an' .decode were destructive ops, when wrote this
asciilifeform fixed, restarts #asciilifeform-test bot...
asciilifeform: oh hm, it is , innit
asciilifeform loox again
asciilifeform: as i set it, lol
asciilifeform: UTF8 .
asciilifeform: the latin-1 fallbacks, per phf's algo, re-encode happily, python per se dun barf. postgres barfs when fed the result.
asciilifeform: representative example barfology from test using lobbes's turd last night in #asciilifeform-test
asciilifeform: phf: this -- worx . this is not the problem. problem happens when the re-encoded string is fed to postgres.
asciilifeform: the phf-style variant is currently sitting in #asciilifeform-test , btw, and can be diddled , put turd there and try to search for it, if it's in the test bot's log, search will return correct res
asciilifeform: (cuz it's specifically a postgres query boojum)
asciilifeform: and which postgres.
asciilifeform: phf: post plz how tested and which py.
asciilifeform: phf: the issue seems to be postgres , i.e. mine is set to utf8 , so anything that is to sit down in it gotta validly re-encode to utf8
asciilifeform: ohai phf
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929071 << the interesting bit is that i got 0 barf when importing phf's log (i.e. including all of the historic uniturds seen in log in 'era 2')
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje when you wake up, plz describe how you actually got the barfola into yer irc client, so can reproduce.
asciilifeform: (i.e. #asciilifeform-test bot happily eats 100% of the examples )
asciilifeform: pasting from the wikitardia dun seem to do the trick either
asciilifeform: grrr apparently can't reproduce by pasting from phf's log, cuz -- surprise!111 -- it all turns into valid utf8 when displayed there
asciilifeform: ^ this one is the last-vpatch ver
asciilifeform: !quptime
asciilifeform: however, the bot that is here , does ~not~ have the phf pill, that one is in #asciilifeform-test
asciilifeform: ( today strictly )
asciilifeform: i see 9 duds actually
asciilifeform digging through barfology log on dulap, will brb
asciilifeform: nao will have to see wtf it was that mp_en_viaje found (3 'magick' turds ? )
asciilifeform: uniturd search worked from day 1 ( of items that actually made it into the db, that is )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: worx same in mine, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=%F0%9F%9C%B0&chan=trilema
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: btw just as i thought, lobbes's searchtron fails if fed the liquishit in question.
asciilifeform: and if someone wants to write 100,000 lines of shitython to write 'dwim', let him fucking scroll to the bottom of the log page, click 'get source', grab the fucking vtree, and write.
asciilifeform: let the people who smeared the 58 acres of shit on cardboard, stuffed it into their modem, and sent it to fleanode, clean it up.
asciilifeform: grudgingly i built in utf8 so that can say кто ты по жизни and τὰ γὰρ ὀψώνια τῆς ἁμαρτίας θάνατος etc. but , for all that has been said re utf8, it is at least supported by postgres . whereas i am not about to spend rest of life trying to write 'dwim ai' to eat erry possible microshit encoding that someone may have at whatever point excreted .
asciilifeform: there exist, incidentally, at least a dozen liquishit encodings that aint either ascii or utf8. and SOMEBODY's terminal supports'em. but imho the fact that fleanode actually eats and relays these, is a bug! of fleanode.
asciilifeform: and whoever doesn't like it, can write own logger. and if mp_en_viaje wants to tear off my epaulettes and make own logger in cobol, he can.
asciilifeform: unless someone supplies, in next coupla days, a simple AND WORKING pill, i'ma do this : anything coming into the bot that dun decode cleanly as utf8, will have the offending chars (i.e. any with 8th bit set) replaced with that glyph that depicts a steaming pile of shit.
asciilifeform: 'I mean literally, the guy's from Washitistan, they write things with their own excrement there, and the Unicode Foundation introduced actual excrement in the standard so now whenever someone asks for the networking code in your project they are delivered physical faeces on cardboard. About fifty eight acres of it. Where would you like this put, sir ?' (tm)(r)(mp)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928976 << see, worx
asciilifeform: why the fuck is this even a good idea ? to support arbitrary liquishit in logs ? imho the Right Thing would be 'if you want yer logs imported or echoed, put'em into utf8 or stuff up arse' .
asciilifeform: ~pasting~ e.g. '2000000 ÷ (154 × 1088 × 1.25) = 9.549274255x' dun trigger the barfolade, btw. cuz on civilized box, lobbes's txt is ALREADY utf8 when yer viewing it. only triggering lobbes's echo , where it pisses the malcoded garbage straight into irc, triggers.
asciilifeform burned entire evening on this, and is no closer to a ~lead~ to a solution (not even speaking of actual solution) than before.
asciilifeform: current variant (w/ phf's non-curative decode-fallback).
asciilifeform: before anyone suggests 'store'em in pg as bins, not text' -- nope, cuz you can't index for text search on bins
asciilifeform dug on www, found 9000+ folx with same barf, but nuffin resembling a pill