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asciilifeform: decimation: i.e. traded for a slightly smaller quantity of 'clean'
TheNewDeal: I looked up the stashes today
asciilifeform: decimation: it was washed in the most elementary way
decimation: it would be interesting to try to trace the btc in the sr stash
mircea_popescu: i doubt hte usg gets anything at this point. just a lengthy succession of narrow "experts" who keep passing data cross a "telephone wire", while the meanings of the terms used change on every pass. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: easier to sit on a ledge than to replace the cattle.
mircea_popescu: it's one of those win-win/lose-lose scenarios. basically they're cutting their herds to drown us in blood
asciilifeform: and i suspect usg also gets it. they're banking on just one hope, killing btc somehow through stampede
mircea_popescu: that's the model.
mircea_popescu: when they give the tanks to isis, they give them.
asciilifeform: decimation: i pointed this out earlier, yes
mircea_popescu: but there's no bomb here.
asciilifeform: do they give a damn?
decimation: so it would actually be legal to blast it off the air
mircea_popescu: as the obligation to repay btc held on the usg is actually going to increase somewhat faster than the btc itself
asciilifeform: when usg sets off a bomb in iraqanistan, the metal, trotyl, guidance circuits - are also 'sold' and 'below market' also.
decimation: although if you read the fine print, the police bot is technical secondary to the ham
mircea_popescu: it's actually a better deal in dollars than to hold on btc.
decimation: re: ham bands << the point is that the 'law' already gave those frequencies to the hams, except when it would inconvenience a company to redesign the product
mircea_popescu: because they have to keep selling us the proceeds of their selftheft below market.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't even imagine who would be dumb enough to lend btc to usg, considering the gold obligations affair
mircea_popescu: yes, but the plundering has a larger cost to them than to us.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: usg wasted another hundred million... << if they can't power the waterfall with debt, they'll power it with plundered btc (as being done now, at least as suggested by the publicly known facts.)
mircea_popescu: because totally, the fact that we can actually do the above now is not economical or valuable.
TheNewDeal: what a troll
mircea_popescu: one ponzi at a time plz.
mircea_popescu: ideally it'd work on the powers of two. first time a week, 1 bitcent, then 2 4 8 etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall, i suggested this.
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: learn to use your killfile. i did - when first met with mr. spam.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you hafta add a jukebox to assbot.
danielpbarron: jurov, my rating doesn't grant voice at the moment
jurov: install an app for every little thing you want to do. oh and pay for the privilege.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how one is supposed to have an os without a pipe. ipads, winboxes, the whole shebang. how ?
mircea_popescu: i gotta say btw, the pipe is like... the greatest invention ever. ☟︎
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> jurov bribe like, with money ?! < with the coins he got from daniel in the first place
jurov: in that log it is not said how
mircea_popescu: guy works as a stupid sifter that's not really dragging up that much stupid.
mircea_popescu: hanbot that's actually interesting huh.
jurov: otherwise i don't see there anything upworthy
hanbot: mircea_popescu re your latest, didja read the comments on that krugman abortion? no wonder he's all bitter and loath to detail, guy's own readergroup is throwing tomatoes by now.
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Dimsler: like the jackolantern market peaks in mid november
TheNewDeal: I have a feeling that sub 300 is going to feel like a dream in about 1 week
mircea_popescu: heh that 260 dollar btc bet guy's gonna be pretty pissed
danielpbarron: heard about them on freetalklive, a radio show I am beginning to suspect is run by government plants
danielpbarron: they are trying to make some sort of decentralized reputation system
danielpbarron: one of the OpenBazaar guys said he'd send someone in here; that's what the tweet I linked to was about
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 295.51, Best ask: 296.12, Bid-ask spread: 0.61000, Last trade: 295.5, 24 hour volume: 49890.61529527, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 342.15, 24 hour vwap: 313.35706663
mircea_popescu: why let facts and scores get in the way of things. besides, scoring is raycist
mircea_popescu: every single time they've met in the field the russian feed the kenyan's ass to him, but hey.
mircea_popescu: you know who understands how the world works ? obama lmao. putin doesn't.
mircea_popescu: o look at that. the derp in question was obama
gribble: Russian View: Why Putin Is Not Impressed | Wolf Street: <http://wolfstreet.com/2014/07/21/russian-point-of-view-new-sanctions-wont-impress-putin/>; Why America doesn't understand Putin - The Washington Post: <http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-america-doesnt-understand-putin/2014/03/14/81bc1cd6-a9f4-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html>; Has Putin pulled military back from (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google "putin doesn't understand how the world works"
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic it's a reference to this idiotic comment by some us derp or other
bounce: he doesn't? I see him make much better decisions (from his perspective) than either the EU or the US (from their respective perspectives)
Apocalyptic: he understood how Russia worked though
mircea_popescu: bounce putin doesn't understand how the world works.
assbot: Daesh document disclose plans to seize Irans nuclear secrets | GulfNews.com
bounce: http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iran/daesh-document-disclose-plans-to-seize-iran-s-nuclear-secrets-1.1394455 -- too bad it doesn't tell why they think putin would go along with what they want
mircea_popescu: i think about half of that comes in the form of extremely intense rain
mircea_popescu: its pretty great all year through
Dimsler: argeninta in the spring is gorgeous
Dimsler: should be able to make this
mircea_popescu: nope. gives people an oppporunity to have fun
empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 6 months and 12 days. Estimated cost today: 4.23973791 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
mircea_popescu: but yes, the worldwide problem is the silver bullet here.
bounce: ham bands work best when they're the same world-wide. also, ham operators are remarkably useful in SHTF situations, and otherwise are very little bother since they tend to know their stuff. so no, it's neither smart nor expedient to try and relocate them. much easier to not be assholes and play nice from the start.
assbot: The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you think it more expedient to relocate some random sporadic ham stuff ?
kakobrekla: its prolly not a good idea that all the filtering is left up to me
jurov: ohmy. remove me from the bash admin before i make bigger mess
kakobrekla: jurov 'singing' bash wasnt a typo :)
TheNewDeal: is huobi volume considered legitimate, or were they included on the bucket-shop scam list?
asciilifeform: so surveillance bot, turns out, is cured with easy pill...
asciilifeform: and ham transmitter is typically far louder than that pocket-sized remote (see police film)
asciilifeform: ham band requisition << this works both ways, you know.
TheNewDeal: and as quickly as the wall appeared, its gone
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PeterL: mircea_popescu: have you found anything interesting to do with the huge amounts of cash held by MPIF?
ben_vulpes: decimation: for the headbash author
TheNewDeal: Krugman trying to drive a few pageviews http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/04/the-long-cryptocon/?_php=true&_type=blogs&pagewanted=all&_r=0
assbot: /openbazaar How migrate from beta 1 to beta 2 ?
TheNewDeal: Can't wait to see how quickly tim drapers coins get munched on bitstamp
mircea_popescu: not so in bitcoin. getting rid of the tardstalk/reddit/etc "community" and burning a bunch of "experts" is a fucking godsend, if they'll just stfu about it and move on to their next cool thing that'd be great.
TheNewDeal: very surprised litecoin isn't taking an accelerated nosedive
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11972744 BTC to 15`436 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 291.15, Best ask: 292.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 292.0, 24 hour volume: 49356.65947835, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 346.75, 24 hour vwap: 318.060741075
mircea_popescu: jurov: don't want to end up with whole position on F.MPIF side << why not ? i'll just unwind it. the latest report actually says so, didja read it ?
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 30000 bitcoins right now would take 9007328.7238 USD and would take the last price up to 323.3100 USD, resulting in an average price of 300.2443 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 50.2833 seconds
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges << specifically ?
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 2998710.2763 USD and would take the last price up to 300.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 299.8710 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 33.2073 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.80694984 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 418 satoshi per share
TheNewDeal: I would love to see some people take a few chomps at that
mircea_popescu: jurov: i feel like no one is looking to mpex and nobody notices stuff anymore << no, i noticed, left the guy a later tell.
mircea_popescu: dub: and system where an airliner falling out of teh sky ejects its passengers to be individually caught by bot swarm <<< from what i recall this is actually under commercial development.
mircea_popescu: decimation: Later they opted to operate more bots in the ham band <<< seems a reasonable solution, really. emergency ham band requisition. what'd you have them do ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla: 150k + coins traded yet bitcoin days destroyed has not budged << lulzy.