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Shakespeare: sry i'm not sober, went to my first football game
mircea_popescu: mpex options never worked as this popularly delusional "engine to turn derpage into monyz/social relevance"
Shakespeare: i aint asking for the world, you used to offer option after all
bounce: then replace obamaman for the social justice angle
mircea_popescu: change so that's the way you want them to work.
decimation: yeah do that
mircea_popescu: things work the way they work.
mircea_popescu: maybe i should replace obama, but in such a way as to make the usg work the way you want it to ?
Shakespeare: everything that suz
Shakespeare: but i'm saying plz replace them
Shakespeare: i know you wouldnt buy them
Shakespeare: mp, at least that gives you an idea of where i stand though
bounce: you're fired up because you want to pitch, and you get rebuffed. gone investment, gone good monies! rage! and it goes downhill from there. -- there's an implied promise with this idea that I'm not happy with.
Shakespeare: also, i'm not saying we'd have to change
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't take it for free, as it happens.
mircea_popescu: buy bitfinex ?! no ty.
Shakespeare: the satoshi getsthem the posrate
Shakespeare: yes they do
bounce: think about it. suppose you're neither l1 or l2, and you stick money in it. you start your valuable because costly pitch. then someone puts the !down on you.
Shakespeare: every !down puts 10satoshi debt on their wot
Shakespeare: so we !down them
bounce: hmno. initially I'd say as long as it isn't the only way. but you'd get peddlers expecting to be heard for their money. you know, query floods, rageddos, etc.
kakobrekla: 1 satoshi per char for all so everyone will shut the fuck up!
Shakespeare: good way to offset the chill factor from !up
Shakespeare: i bet it attracts more chatters than not
Shakespeare: <+mircea_popescu> guy puts 1 bitcent in, gets a !up from assbot. // might be on to something there
los_pantalones: if you had those facilities ?
los_pantalones: Shakespeare what kind of size would you trade?
Shakespeare: yay on the SR auction bet resolution!
Shakespeare: futures, and margin and leverage would be nice too.
Shakespeare: <+mircea_popescu> thickasthieves: would love if mpex or an mpex property offered any sort of price instrument that would allow moving volume from other exchanges << specifically ? /// well, i'll start with the moon: just buy bitfinex and offer the whole shebang! otherwise, just would be nice to trade somewhere more private, transparent and trustworthy. The product could be options,
decimation: note to young 'progressive' 'open source' coders: you have swallowed the kool-aid. If you actually want to make a difference and not end up like Mr. Ramey, please focus on the pipes, from the silicon up.
decimation: he has a blog too http://chetramey.blogspot.com/ "An outspoken progressive in a conservative community."
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/technology/security-experts-expect-shellshock-software-bug-to-be-significant.html "Mr. Ramey said in an interview on Thursday that he believed he inadvertently introduced Shellshock in a new Bash feature in 1992, though he could not be sure because back then he was not keeping comprehensive logs. "
decimation: ben_vulpes: saauce is easy to find, here's one http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/when-the-bourne-shell-found-its-identity.html
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 307.69, Best ask: 308.92, Bid-ask spread: 1.23000, Last trade: 308.69, 24 hour volume: 56551.21451831, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 307.191985978
Dimsler: will you stop with the play by play market updates
pete_dushenski: and with that, i'm off to enjoy the last of this beautiful weather!
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decimation: asciilifeform: thanks for that gentoo -systemd tip. it would be handy to make a systemd-free linux box
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mircea_popescu: ;;google but thanks for all the fishes
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 309.11, Best ask: 309.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 308.83, 24 hour volume: 55108.92934427, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 308.259223839
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i will take it very personally if the actual financial collapse of the us is brought about by a manic attempt to chase losses in their failed attempts to maninpulate the btc price. << lol! those causes.
mircea_popescu: bitches better be resourceful, what is this $1200 a month retainer talk ?
mircea_popescu: kurdistan is in the 20th century now ?
asciilifeform: or is the hypothetical one involving a 20th c. style army, which equips paupers ?
mircea_popescu: at the rate things are going, this curiosity looks likely to be satisfied.
mircea_popescu: i'd be very curious to see first hand if the us based, usg fed "feminists" in the us would actually pick a rifle and a picket, when it comes to it.
mircea_popescu: gotta say i lub the kurdish chicks
assbot: GRAPHIC: Islamic State fighter w/ head of female Kurdish fighter after entering Kobani. US strikes did 0 to halt them http://t.co/IfdbZEXpkZ
assbot: dpaste: 1RG8SQP: spamgun, by tnd
asciilifeform: (all you need to do is separate...)
decimation: oh noes, terrorists are going to be HNO3 off of amazon to make TNT?
TheNewDeal: might find a couple street bums trapped in there too
asciilifeform thought it was verb0t3n by order of tehFuhrer
decimation: I suspect they would have to flush the beer pipe regularly
asciilifeform was greatly surprised to learn that one can buy nitric acid on 'amazon' and similar.
mircea_popescu: i imagine if that thing's in use for a few centuries the bugs living in the pipe will be pretty wow.
TheNewDeal: would be interesting to taste the inbetween state
TheNewDeal: so does a new beer just flush out the old?
decimation: re: pipes http://rt.com/news/191132-belgium-build-beer-pipe/ "An underground pipeline carrying 5,700 liters of beer an hour will be built in Belgium’s historic city of Bruges. A family-owned brewery will pump beer direct to a bottling plant in the suburbs to cut the number of trucks on ancient cobbled streets."
mircea_popescu: i guess this is a hot bet now ?
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November :: 1.04 B (95%) on Yes, 0.06 B (5%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 98`674 (100`000 to 1)
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 310.08, Best ask: 314.48, Bid-ask spread: 4.40000, Last trade: 314.48, 24 hour volume: 53465.06436516, 24 hour low: 275.0, 24 hour high: 339.43, 24 hour vwap: 308.337573196
mircea_popescu: macro events are visible, and the forest-for-trees problem is something one can approach with training and talent
decimation: it's difficult to inspect the usg/fed's actions with the naked eye
asciilifeform: difficult to work with naked eye on microelectronics.
mircea_popescu: i think these live on different abstraction levels
decimation: in the sense that you can check that they are physically unconnected
decimation: if they are both connected to the same von neumann machine (or network of such machines) you can't be certain
decimation: I was thinking about this last night. How can you be certain that your hvac control pipe is not connected to the self-destruct thermite bomb pipe?
mircea_popescu: which happens to be correct, and peripherally a point i've oft made, say how "bitcoin is not the derps"
mircea_popescu: in this perspective, the blockchain is the major point of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: in fact, if you get the pipe right, it doesn't even actually matter if you get anything else right
asciilifeform: !s the spittoon
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all of my heresies are in fact in one strand. this is how i ended up 'drinking the spittoon.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am starting to comprehend this.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2014 18:47:24; mircea_popescu: i doubt hte usg gets anything at this point. just a lengthy succession of narrow "experts" who keep passing data cross a "telephone wire", while the meanings of the terms used change on every pass.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2014 18:32:30; mircea_popescu: i gotta say btw, the pipe is like... the greatest invention ever.
asciilifeform: von neumann's basic problem is a terrifically bad implementation of the ordinary pipe concept.
bounce: lay down the pipe and open a window. slowly!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pipe - is everything. (hence my crackpot pushing of dataflow as replacement for von neumann computation, etc)
mircea_popescu: that thing's a lot more fundamental than usually given credit for
mircea_popescu: in a sense, thinking about it... the usg problems come down to a poor implementation of the pipe.
bounce: pffft. they /are/ the fed. it's not actually an usg institution.
decimation: TheNewDeal: that's the point, thus the usg is responsible for their actions, as mp just wrote
TheNewDeal: all the biggest banks are in bed with the fed anyways
mircea_popescu: qui facit per alium facit per se and all that.
decimation: they think they bank with some local bank, not the fed/fdic/whatever
decimation: many in the us are easily confused on this point
asciilifeform: in what way are these folks meaningfully separate entities from usg?
mircea_popescu: that's the allegation.
decimation: personally I find it far more likely that some big bank/'investment house' is doing usg's bidding in exchange for future favors from usg
mircea_popescu: tyvm for doing the digging.
decimation: there's alot of btc that wants to be washed
decimation: well, someone is 'renting' all those miners for over the expected return
bounce: apparently it was mr. reid who thought putin doesn't understand how the world works: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2014-03-27/html/CREC-2014-03-27-pt1-PgS1781-6.htm
decimation: heh the treasury dept. using otc?