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dub: we don't know that
The20YearIRCloud: A girl in my town came very, very close to death from swine flu, but normal flu kills quite a few each year
decimation: diametric: yeah the difference is we know the fatality rate for ebola is double digits
The20YearIRCloud: If my understanding was right, the infection rate from swine flu was higher, but overall mortality was less
asciilifeform: fatality for swine flu was close to nil.
diametric: and then again for swine flu
diametric: its deja vu for me, i had this nearly identical conversation with a friend over sars way back when.
asciilifeform: because who in their right mind will let these land?
asciilifeform: after pandemic, the flights will shutter. but different ones - flights out of usa.
asciilifeform: no big secret that the policy is to wait for the pandemic, yes.
decimation: the question is, how many extra us citizen deaths are worth not 'shutting down' travel from africa, whatever that means?
decimation: diametric: if you read my first link above, the guy comes to the same conclusion
diametric: we're still only sitting at one infection contracted in the US, a nurse that didn't follow the proper protocol when dealing with the index patient (who is now dead). I'm not seeing the incoming pandemic yet.
asciilifeform: that is - just enough for the Folks Who Matter (tm)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in exactly the same place as the goats growing recombinant butyrylcholinesterase (antidote+prophylactic against organophosphate poisoning, $30k+ a dose at current production methods)
decimation: asciilifeform: it seems that guy (Mr. Cochran) has some axes he is grinding
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what does fox news prescribe for ebola ? << The more important question is where are those magic tobacco plants growing those antibodies
decimation: diametric: this is one of these 'tough calls' that the man-children who pretend to run the usg need to actually make
diametric: take two every night.
asciilifeform: t-shirt with elephant logo to be buried in ?
diametric: man its feeling a bit like fox news in here, trying to convince me I already have ebola
decimation: serious imported epidemics could be. The people of American Samoa self-blockaded, on top of official quarantine: they sent out canoes to stop any and all visitors. They never had a single case."
decimation: "Washington didn’t micro-manage American Samoa, not being all that interested. A policy of benign neglect was interpreted by Poyer as an opportunity to act on his best judgment, in the finest traditions of the US Navy. He imposed quarantine. That was harder that it sounds, because of the frequent family visits between West Samoa and American Samoa – but Poyer also had the support of the local chiefs, who understood how
assbot: Disaster in the South Pacific | West Hunter
diametric: decimation: of course, but i think thats happening. (re; the idiot that sneezed and said "sorry i came from africa"
asciilifeform bought the party line from u.s. army textbook on subject earlier
decimation: diametric: even assuming that ebola doesn't transmit very well, wouldn't it make sense to attempt some level of quarantine?
diametric: i find it kind of interesting though, you were in the camp of ebola isn't a serious problem for a first world country when we talked about it a few months ago.
diametric: honestly, though, ebola has an R0 of 2, its less serious than measles which thanks to anti-vax nutters is making a huge comeback. If theres anything to honestly be really worried about, its measles.
diametric: but that would be tantamount to stopping all inbound flights.
diametric: so theres no flights to stop.
diametric: asciilifeform: for what its worth, there is actually no direct flights from west africa to here.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: (no, it’s not all physiology, there’s a lot to the functioning of the brain that’s purely cultural, and thus ethnic, and thus sure black kids immersed into white culture could in principle get the same IQ measurements as white kids while black kids from Africa or the ghetto never will) << lolno.
asciilifeform: meant to be printed, i think.
thickasthieves: so, wall st gonna bleed out this week?
thickasthieves: omg i'm going to reddit to try to get mpex to support bitcoin, they only take words now!
BingoBoingo: decimation: Their copy says something intel and something recent.
decimation: ah I see his note in the log, thanks for the tip. I wonder what kind of processor they are using
thickasthieves: but no, thank you for giving it a go, i always like to see the new b-a bizs
BingoBoingo: decimation: I think kakobrekla is giving them a spin. I've read mixed reviews.
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Thank you
thickasthieves: btw bingoboingo, the error is gone, and grats to you and cazalla on the IPOhood
decimation: it seemed to be among the best deals in 'kvm' hosting
thickasthieves: decimation, kako tried it earlier today
decimation: so reading about lowendhost.net in the [b]logs was useful. has anyone used 'vultr.com'?
mircea_popescu: six months or so to go ?
assbot: Squitter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mats_cd03: and i plan to wait until brk-a bet concludes to do that
mats_cd03: the only thing i have in mind is bitbet audit 2
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: That just might be the case
mats_cd03: perhaps my brain is telling me to write for qntra.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCdYoXQSN5c << check out the 80s lmao.
decimation: the point being everything is a tradeoff, and many errors of government come from trying to assume the value of something to be infinity - or zero.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Bridge kills no people in it's lifespan because users are warned of the expiration date upon which it will self bomb
decimation: ask any engineer 'how safe' the bridge should be, and he will ask how many people it should kill in a reasonable lifespan
mircea_popescu: this is mere tort.
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2014 20:16:36; mircea_popescu: any state purporting to enforce strict liability is pure stalinism and nothing but.
decimation: I think you wrote about the tyranny of infinite liability
mircea_popescu: if you do actuarial averages, about the best construction you can come up with
decimation: whatever happened to those 'red faction' chaps that were using high-end shaped charges in the 80's?
mircea_popescu: decimation it's about fair tbh.
asciilifeform: i for one am quite curious what the first successful use of a uterus bomb will do to 'security theatre.'
asciilifeform: (or uterus bomb, or variations thereof.)
asciilifeform: the answer is, of course, the humble fat bomb.
mircea_popescu: was the rage in the 80s
mircea_popescu: i think it' sstill done in germany/poland
asciilifeform: next step was, i think, 'knockout flights' - with anaesthesia
mircea_popescu: tbh, if i were sitting on the iron throne in question, i'd have the agents naked
asciilifeform has considered applying for the pass to see if he'd get one
Adlai: the agent refunds it if they want to see you naked when you arrive at the airport
mircea_popescu: decimation do they refund it if you blow up a plane after all ?
asciilifeform: any chumper can fork over the hundy and get the 'precleared' thing.
asciilifeform: decimation: nah, that'd be whatever document officials carry
decimation: the latest thing is that if you pay the tsa $70 you can get your name on a list, so that you go through security 'the way it was before 2001'
mircea_popescu: but you had to be careful or else the adults might catch on.
mircea_popescu: we kinda had that,
decimation: mircea_popescu: yes, except they arbitrarily add on various 'strip' features, like your shoes, bags, etc
mircea_popescu: not that many. nordic countries mostly.
devthedev: I'm trying to gain knowledge of which brokerage would be best.
Adlai: mircea_popescu: isn't much of what you say about anglophonia relevant for many other places too?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> and by 'invade your person' I mean 'subject to arbitrary measures of physical control << they still doing the "freeze" kindergarten game in airports ?
mircea_popescu: <devthedev> What do you think would be the best way to handle MPEx shares for Qntra? << whatr do you ean handle ?
decimation: heh good point - except for the few who became masters themselves
mircea_popescu: so what of it, kids loving their father is the seal of fathering failure.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I suspect that few of the young apprentices that mircea_popescu mentioned ended up dispising the masters who showed them how dumb they were << actually, if the periodic apprentice riots are anything to go by, they probably resented their masters to their grave.
assbot: Money, fucking and lying pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Adlai is doing well, down to ~20 from >50
BingoBoingo: Ah, I only have so many channels open at a time.
Adlai: yes that was linked in #lisp a while back
decimation: and by 'invade your person' I mean 'subject to arbitrary measures of physical control'
decimation: asciilifeform: yes, it is sad that in the us, the gov't has the right to arbitrary invade your person, yet generally forbids those who are put in authority over children the same power
Adlai: beautifully vague, but i guess that's appropriate at such an early stage
Adlai: BingoBoingo: where in the listing document is there any mention of anything which generates revenue?
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decimation: you mean the cruel discipline of nature?
cazalla: give him the stick, DON'T give him the stick
asciilifeform: when you do certain things
devthedev: What do you think would be the best way to handle MPEx shares for Qntra?
asciilifeform: and it will swing, and take your head clean off, if it must
decimation: in the us, wielding the stick is generally banned, as is wielding wet noodles or signs that say 'stick'