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mircea_popescu: a lawyer readily understands
the value of ACTUAL attorney-client privilege
mircea_popescu: bounce no but i mean, people like shrem or ulbricht or w/e ?
that's
the right move in
their position. hire lawyer, make it conditional upon all communication going
through gpg
bounce: anyhow, I don't have contact with personal brokers so no opportunity
to
try and
test market uptake
bounce: not
that sense. in
the sense
that some people will
thus end up with N (>>20) laptops
to
talk
to N people.
mircea_popescu: o shit, you need a computer at home
to email ? o yea,
totally, email doesn't scale
bounce: yesh, but it doesn't scale.
then again, maybe it doesn't need
to. until it does, of course.
mircea_popescu: bounce well if you're giving
them away supposedly you got your own system
bounce: needs a bit of buy-in since
the other side needs something comparable.
bounce: that's
the price of a new laptop
these days. cheapo, but anyhow.
mircea_popescu: best gift you'll ever make, incidentally. for
the 500 bux or w/e an old laptop costs you're probably going
to get a yachtful of champagne
mircea_popescu: that's not how you do it. you gift
the guy a laptop and explain how
to use it.
bounce: but
then, selling a
totally complex fancy buzzword-laden magic (voice or otherwise) box counts as "innovation", whereas installing a mail client with decent gpg support does not.
bounce: rather gigantic mismatch between what
the
technology can do and understanding what it needs
to do.
mircea_popescu: once
the guy hears "non repudiable, just keep
the blob" eyes light up like an xmas
tree
mircea_popescu: bounce it's been going on for a while,
this scam. most brokers with high value accounts have been pretty spooked back in
the 90s already
bounce: anyhow barclays already rolled
this out for
their "wealthiest clients", so
this sounds like an invitation
to make good use of a
tape recorder.
bounce: heh, it's actually worse
than
that. when gov't people
talk about "signature management",
these days
that's plugins for
their document management systems
that govern copy/pasting pictures of signatures into "documents"
that later may or may not end up getting printed.
mircea_popescu: and i bet you
the dude in question never
touched any of
the bills he "signed"
mircea_popescu: much like
the "signature", ie, scribbling down on paper. fuck me, i have bills in
this room issued by 6 different governments,
they all have a signature on
them
thestringpuller: i used
to do
that with
tape recorders in my pops office back in
the day
mircea_popescu: stuff here is not nearly as falsifiable as
the "trustworthy" phonecall.
mircea_popescu: bounce incidentally, since you bring it up : most idiots of
the "irc is not irl" and "i
trust real people" variety fail
to understand
that with modern computers i can make any one person
to say any one
thing. just give me a collection of
their voice recorded.
mircea_popescu: Adlai you should check his code out btw, it's actually better if you want lightweight/text only
than any browser
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Azelphur: kakobrekla: for MPEX?
that was me.
Adlai: and
they're bulkier both in size and speed
Adlai concludes
that w3m is preferable
to lynx
Azelphur: eg if you
try and do realtime in django you're going
to have a bad
time.
Azelphur: that said
there are other considerations, some languages/frameworks have limitations / specialties
that others don't
bounce: leveraging a write once language
to help produce
tight code in a notoriously sloppy language. can't you just
taste
the synergy?
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu not so badly, but in a very arrogant way, and
then no more
technical answers
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: indeed, goes back
to what I said really,
the quality of code produced is dependant on
the programmer and not
the language
Apocalyptic: I just saw a few vulns for
that one, it seems
to be recurrent
bounce: ergo, php is
the bees' knees and
the "fractal of bad design" guy has it ALL WRONG
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: coding in PHP is one of
the few socially acceptable forms of insanity
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: if you're good at PHP, use it. It's not
the greatest of languages but it's perfectly functional.
danielpbarron: wall street journal recently published an article featuring some of
the more well known scamcoins
kakobrekla: actually i
think bash is wrong here. ltc is silver.
Azelphur: wyrdmantis:
to answer your earlier question,
the answer is
the framework your developer is most proficient in using
Apocalyptic: well one could argue LTC is a shitcoin
too, and it wouldn't be far from
the
truth
kakobrekla: aha
thats why
theres no coins listed :)
Apocalyptic: yeah,
that's
the main reason I didn't want shitcoins in x-bt
mircea_popescu: and
the idiots "using" your "service" won't understand
that
they're all equally worthless, so...
mircea_popescu: then people will find how
to ewxploit one,
trade it for all
the others you hold
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis it is a very shitty spot
to be in, running one of
those, because
the shitcoins are often badly written, such as was
the case with xrp.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic idol worshipping hasn't stopped either, it just moves further
to
the outskirts
wyrdmantis: i don't want
to do an altcoin exchange,
that's sure
Apocalyptic: I
thought
the exchange mania has stopped, guess not
kakobrekla: in both cases, if you want
to do it well or if you want
to do it fast, you will want
to use
tools you know well
mircea_popescu: what's
the worst
that'll hapen, it'll fuck her in
the ass ?
mircea_popescu: node.js is a great
toolset
to build your gf a dildo with.
wyrdmantis: a friend asked
the guy about db and got insulted and
then silence. WTF people are so dumb. And yeah, node.js doesn't seem low level at all.
mircea_popescu: except you know, some stuff manages
to be basic and advanced at
the same
time.
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis whenever you wish
to build something hardened, you are advised
to use
the lowest level
tools you can use.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: added
the necessary code
to
the necessary file and
the necessary pingback
to
the necessary article :D
wyrdmantis: A question for developers: if i wanted (only
theoretically)
to build a scamcoins exchange like bittrex, what language/framework is best
to use? A guy has opened one in node.js. I
think he's gonna get hacked very soon.
chetty: <Apocalyptic> <ThickAsThieves> [16:22:45] wall st bleeding // again ?//seems
to have mostly recovered since
then
mircea_popescu: "<kakobrekla> i got distracted by a pussy and a pair of
tits." ?
kakobrekla: shit i still dont even know what
today brought.
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kakobrekla: nah, you get
the punishment of recoding it from scratch for
trusting me in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: maybe you do
that after it gets hacked, as punishment.
kakobrekla: shit i got distracted by a pussy and a pair of
tits.