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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: might want to do a live-fire test on latest turd
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: couldn't hurt to check...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: these differ from last night's ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: let's mirror 0.5.3 there
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the patches just now published, specifically.
ben_vulpes: it's late and i'm banging my head against the opaque mess that is the amazon key-value store.
asciilifeform: rather than simply assuming that i don't smoke crack
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes who ever said the best cooks aren't men!
decimation: asciilifeform: starting to use bsd after linux for decades makes me feel like I'm in a funhouse
decimation: does that include all of your previous patches?
undata: the python thing being implicit vs explicit
undata: mircea_popescu: I've said before in regards to software architecture that inherent is better than explicit (in response to the python thing). Yours is much better said.
decimation: yeah it's impossible to unhuman humanity, but it's quite possible to unintel computers
mircea_popescu: anyway, this observation is not particularly useful in politics, but it is useful in technology.
mircea_popescu: lobotomy comes to mind.
decimation: good point. I guess the radical approach would be to murder all humans
mircea_popescu: decimation that's a fix. it fails to make kings impossible, so it degenerates, to a shittier kingdom
bounce: look at any state that rose out of "revolution" only never shed it
decimation: for instance, beheading the king and declaring The People sovereign
mircea_popescu: the fix degenerates (water can say break the dam and flood you, which is worse an outcome). the radical approach can't degenerate, because it has not where to.
mircea_popescu: what i mean here : anything which is ulterior ontologically to the problem is a fix. anything that is anterior ontologically to the problem and is incompatible with the problem's existence is a radical aproach.
mircea_popescu: ah ah. myeah. the problem with "fixes" is that they always degenerate.
bounce: they're the tool of big corporates and patent trolls, exactly the opposite of protecting the small craftsman
bounce: that makes patent warchests more than a little ironic
mircea_popescu: exactly the same thing.
mircea_popescu: today, people go "do not put xml schemas on your recipes, because that's only going to help large data crunchers profit - not you"
mircea_popescu: because that knowledge meant a livelihood, whereas education meant competition.
mircea_popescu: you see, back cca 1800, a guy who figured out how to fix a loom would do anything BUT explain it to anyone
mircea_popescu: this is to me an interesting thing, because it's an exact reprise of the craftsman vs entrepreneur arguments that raged in the early modern period, resulting in the ip laws in the first place.
assbot: How Google Plans to Steal More of Your Traffic
decimation: as if fincen is ever going to say "sure you can do whatever you want without asking us again"
decimation: I was reading the fincen letter to bitpay
mircea_popescu is nonplussed with the retards squirming around the edges of bitcoin failing to point out that "hey sec, mp's cock isn't going to suck itself, get busy"
decimation: "we find that we are in charge"
ben_vulpes: look at that! regtest mode implemented in configuration. no chainparams.cpp necessary.
mircea_popescu: and yes, they will mine, on their own chain, obviously.
ben_vulpes suspects checkpoints are the dumb thing here
mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem with their going away.
ben_vulpes: but this could be retarded - i don't actually know.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm more inclined to hack the checkpoints out.
ben_vulpes: (also i'm assuming that you're not trolling me and saying "yes they'll mine in the sense of hashing loltworotlzlzlzl")
mircea_popescu: you'll have to hack the checkpoints in
asciilifeform: esp. in the middle of a connection.
asciilifeform: never know when you might want to!
asciilifeform: 'must give the option of shooting self in head'
asciilifeform: bounce: recall the 'null ciphers' in ssl et al
ben_vulpes: if i spin up two bitcoinds and use cli arg '-connect' to point them at each other, can they mine?
thestringpuller: dude these comments are just
mircea_popescu: he probably doesn't think windows is a feature that should be removed either.
ben_vulpes: "Although I agree that it's totally insecure, no matter how you sugar coat it--I really don't think it's a feature that should be removed."
ben_vulpes: " I'd like my secret key on multiple machines, and I don't know how to move it around easily."
ben_vulpes: from the shitgnome lulzotron: https://github.com/keybase/keybase-issues/issues/160
asciilifeform: hn << notice how the circus has all of the obligatory clowns, acrobats. including the inescapable shitgnomes pushing 'keybase' etc.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 seems about par for the hnourse.
decimation: that which can be synthesized without reference to sensory experience
mats_cd03: top comment conflates gpg with pgp, ten odd comments in a useless discussion about key exchange and comms over the same channel, five comments by a bunch of fucking dummies talking about key signing parties, and a few pumping keybase
mircea_popescu: how is that constant ?
mircea_popescu: or for that matter, what constant set of assumptions do physicists have in common ? if discussion relied on constant assumptions, science'd be in principle impossible.
thestringpuller: if there were text book example for "The Case of Too Much Money" this would be in that chapter.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: and so they keep pouring money in. << 55 employees and purchased for 19 billion?
decimation: if morality is only that which arouses sympathies - an each man has his own unique sentiment - how is moral discussion possible, given no constant set of assumptions to build upon?
mircea_popescu: and so they keep pouring money in.
mircea_popescu: i mean watsapp lost money ? heh. all these derps only survive exactly on the myspace ticket : old people like ted turner have nfi what's what online,
thestringpuller: world series is goin to game 7
mircea_popescu: i would be very surprised if the "top 10" blogs actually get any reads at all.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how anyone even uses any of the sites in the gawker empire of crap. and incidentally tech crunch or mashable are exacly the same shit : exactly 0 comments, no content, just a bunch of pointless, flashy page elements.
asciilifeform: in usa (?) they recently put out a film purporting to be a riff on his epic 'futurological congress'
decimation: asciilifeform: interesting - it seems doctor who ripped this guy off
assbot: BOOK REVIEW: The Star Diaries by Stanislaw Lem (1971) | Republibot
asciilifeform: decimation: It soon became clear that nobody there was actually against << http://www.republibot.com/content/book-review-%E2%80%9C-star-diaries%E2%80%9D-stanislaw-lem-1971 >> grep 'eleventh voyage.'
TheNewDeal: thestringpuller : oh isn't that speeshal
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt1vQ81jNWw << one of the better such scenes.
asciilifeform: (1 - turks. 2 - jp)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: guy learned russian phonetically, it sounds totally like ai << gets worse. 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmAxM5GixMM 2) (danger! bagpipe) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep0LMkJBBbs
assbot: I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup | Slate Star Codex
decimation: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ << "Recently, there was a thread on Reddit asking – Redditors Against Gay Marriage, What Is Your Best Supporting Argument? A Reddit user who didn’t understand how anybody could be against gay marriage honestly wanted to know how other people who were against it justified their position. ... It soon became clear that nobody there was actually against
mircea_popescu: kinda the job of internet nobodies, innit ? "i saw x thing on google trends now i'm going to write about it in a vain but strongly held hope that mayhap the association may benefit me"
nara_narayana: in matters such as this, i couldn't care less where you stick your penis
mircea_popescu: ah that. well certainly.
undata: the two people have nothing of note in common
undata: mircea_popescu: the writer is trying to cast himself as part of some team which Thiel brings some kind of social progress honor to
mircea_popescu: i mention it all the time!
undata: mircea_popescu: I disgree that it's worth mentioning
undata: apparently trying to make the same idiotic point
mircea_popescu: undata wait, you disagree from experience about the gay fitting, or you're shocked and surprised that thiel may actually take your peculiar payment ?
undata: ah, not as scrolled as I thought.
undata: shit, I was scrolled up. That was from the Thiel article
undata: "Like the immigrant Jews who created Hollywood a century ago, a gay investor has no way to fit into the old establishment." << pffffffff
mircea_popescu: guy learned russian phonetically, it sounds totally like ai.
mircea_popescu: because all romanians knew of slaves was through the arabic slaves of the medieval turks.
mircea_popescu: (it's негр, for the record)
gribble: (google translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
mircea_popescu: ;;google translate nigger to russian
BingoBoingo: Is black zamak a thing yet?
BingoBoingo: Just Amazing to see cast iron implements call each other out on their composition
assbot: Peter Thiel is totally gay, people
BingoBoingo: I mean Gawker particularly calls people out on harassment yet they wrote: http://gawker.com/335894/peter-thiel-is-totally-gay-people
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm just amazed that in the battle ov Redditors vs. Shitty Journos, both sides are losing so profoundly
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Gawker toxic to advertizers: http://adland.tv/adnews/gawker-toxic-brands-who-partner-them/1291467968 << this is quite true, and not just of them.
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