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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:34:07 mircea_popescu: oh, and is this a search bug, btw ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934668 << this is serious bugola. i'ma take a look.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:18:44 mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care if they become things or not -- but i'd much rather not be asked to foot the bill for their becoming. let them do the work themfuckingselves, which is why i say : piggybacking even more stupid shit atop a tower of stupid shit we're allegedly trying to clean up is... well ? it's stupid!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934655 << appeal of forth is that there ~aint~ a 'tower'. i.e. can stand up all the compiler you need in coupla 100 bytes.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:17:58 mircea_popescu: forth is not a thing. lisp is not a thing. on in this vein.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:10:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934318 << nevermind "martian". the table ante for this discussion is "perfectly functioning webserver with two decades history of the same". if it dun have that, it's not a fucking thing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 06:48:09 mircea_popescu: should i put a copy up somewhere so "oh, same as python" wank can continue on actual basis ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934617 << i dun have a serious output for that q yet, will come back to it .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 03:51:59 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934288 << you're not thinking this through. what's a page, <100kb ? what's the daily output, 100 of these ? you're comitting to 10mb / day thereby ? ie a hour's blockchain ? this too much to ask for the republic ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934490 << also relevantly, if ben is down w/out being rebootable, mod6 needs a new co-chair in tbf
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:01:04 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934257 << there's a lot of cvasi-effort/idle pullulation in the wanna-be cloud sharply directed at "being mp on the cheap". he figures he'll be cool if he says that, which is why he does.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934457 << in orig q i was thinking 'does this personage correspond to a wot key', prolly oughta have said concretely. ( if mircea_popescu had revealed the chix's human name, this would not have meant anyffin to asciilifeform et al )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 00:55:08 mircea_popescu: call that P. meanwhile output, or productivity, is expressed as a different scalar, call it W.
trinque: I'll stick it on the page here in a bit, gonna snag coffee and be back
hanbot: btw, since i have your ear: is the harappan reference a nod to all its extant scripts being very short?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 01:24:56 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931863 << keks, so what, i been talking of harems &c for a decade+, yet peeps been just assuming i'm fantasizing or something ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934414 << prolly a baked in fixnum from the days of the ancients no current scriptkiddy can touch. i say this because the identify nick response also 30 seconds.
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, uk is dissolved almost entirely, yes 1980s thatcher's uk would have fucking imploded if we did something like this ; whereas 2020s may uk... well... just look at the whole eu debacle, they're a joke.
mircea_popescu: basically, we've been diligently building vapors over the years. looking for a spark.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:59:41 mircea_popescu: still, this is definitely a vulnerable / sore spot in the imperial "clothing for nude emperors" pile.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934740 - possibly also added lolz just because of a. UK's pride and joy in "educational services" b. the whole roar re tuition and funding
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934724 - fwiw I think this is actually a reasonably good description - I tend to politely ignore, yes.
mircea_popescu: still, this is definitely a vulnerable / sore spot in the imperial "clothing for nude emperors" pile.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: the uk has a boatload of various tests and things; not fully aligned (from my current knowledge of the domain, admiteddly limited)
mircea_popescu: fucking trivial to make a few kids ace those, they're written by bugmen for bugmen.
mircea_popescu: then you get to go to regional teacher's conferences on the strength of "best in the country" but on a platform of "rape and pillage".
mircea_popescu: c) we don't take your elder sons/merit-washed eromenoi, fuck off, this is only for nazi kids.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, the idea is to have the #1 college in the uk for whatever specialty of your choice simultaneously a) 0 tuition ; b) "we don't take your govt scrip here" ie off their bezzle circuit and
mircea_popescu: you ain't getting a physical building without status, though, what sense'd that make ?
diana_coman: pretty much; the only missing bit is a physical building.
mircea_popescu: then you already have a college ?
mircea_popescu: well, if we're not getting that, then we could just make a college by deedbot.
diana_coman: to cite from gov.uk "if your degree is not from an officially recognised UK university or college, there's no guarantee it'll count when you're looking for a job" ; i.e. whether you are within the system or not, the way I read it.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to exploit the socialism poverty hole. all sorta community colleges / 2 year technical colleges in ruralia would take ~anyone, including ~any soccer mom with a degree as a teacher.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:33:10 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, his idea might be good, actually. what's the uk requirements for starting a private college ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934570 - after a first look, it seems to me that it all depends on the degree to which one cares about "the system"; personally I don't care and don't even want to make the venture "caring" but to know what I'm looking for: are their notions (eg of "degrees") of any interest at all?
mircea_popescu: me sitting around all day playing about takes a lot of fucking work.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, yeah, if she ever gets a free minute. which she currentrly does, today, and otherwise last happened... um. pretty sure it was june
diana_coman: hm, I recall some illustrations hanbot made on a trilema article - fwiw I think she can draw actually.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:43:49 trinque: heh, this place needs a cartoonist so bad
mircea_popescu: 're used to, what they expect, what they need. what, you think inca makes sense ? inca dun make fucking sense, a competition in sense with inca's fucking nonsense. the competition's in tupeu, and ain't gonna nobody have more of that than us.
mircea_popescu: the correct decoupling is here : a) make what needs to be made, according to ~US~. nobody asks the fuck shitheads derpingabout anything
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:33:53 asciilifeform: a gb nic can theoretically swallow 2**18 512b packets / sec .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:16:06 asciilifeform: aha. tho presently i doubt that it's physically possible to make a 4096x4096b multiplier converge in <1ns
mircea_popescu: once that's done, i expect it'll be expensive but not untouchable. bout same as a house.
mircea_popescu: oh, and is this a search bug, btw ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:05:19 asciilifeform: on e.g. x86, a forth complete enuff that you could comfortably live the rest of your life in it, weighs about 1kB.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-12-19 16:01:57 phf: asciilifeform: i have no issues with unfriendliness of your approach or it's secret busting nature. i'm trying different approach, and so far our success is identical in that it's 0. we're at a point where our mutual approaches can benefit, yet you deny me mine, periodically insulting it in creative ways.
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care if they become things or not -- but i'd much rather not be asked to foot the bill for their becoming. let them do the work themfuckingselves, which is why i say : piggybacking even more stupid shit atop a tower of stupid shit we're allegedly trying to clean up is... well ? it's stupid!
mircea_popescu: forth is not a thing. lisp is not a thing. on in this vein.
mircea_popescu: which takes us full circle : c is a thing because linux, and for as long as and inasmuch as linux. linux is a thing because apache / webservers. for as long and inasmuch etcetera.
mircea_popescu: legends about. and sure, maybe forth is conceptually interesting. but it's not a programming language anymore than any []http://trilema.com/2017/i-think-they-might-be-overdoing-it-in-places/[random impudent dicklet] "opinions" on things.
mircea_popescu: a dude in his 30s without millions (plural) and slavegirls (plural) can have all the "potential" in his own mind / esteemed estimation of his fucktarder & impoverished peers. not a person. because that's table antes for personhood, forget about it.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why this is obvious for people, but not obvious for concepts. a dead notion, such as "a great language nobody does anything useful in", be it lisp ~called~, forth, whatever the fuck, is just as much a language as harappan.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934318 << nevermind "martian". the table ante for this discussion is "perfectly functioning webserver with two decades history of the same". if it dun have that, it's not a fucking thing.
mircea_popescu: should i put a copy up somewhere so "oh, same as python" wank can continue on actual basis ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, the net's been thoroughly scrubbed : http://il.php.net/get/php-4.4.8.tar.bz2/from/us.php.net/mirror no longer works (they even redirected the old /get/ directory to the manual now) ; the downloads studiously only includes the (entirely useless) 7 series. even lulzy spamsites a la http://www.oldapps.com/php_programming_language.php?old_php=13 are dead (the frontend works, but the [http://download.oldapps.com/PH
mircea_popescu: i guess i ate a semicolon up there. but anyways -- no, none of this shit actually exists.
mircea_popescu: (to give out the full helping of lulz : as far as anyone knows, mod_php doesn't even exist. the cannonical repository sports a lulzily empty link ; the backup is our old friends' myspace, wherein the source is given as ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap which, needless to say, doesn't resolve. nor do the "mirror s
mircea_popescu: some things elementary can't even be. what'd a mod_lisp be like, and how would it differ from http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933597 ? i expect the answer is "it differs -- in all the wrong ways".
mircea_popescu: way the fuck better way to spend one's time than wanking over apple, in any case. and besides -- that's not even a v tree!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
mircea_popescu: to close the larger point here : if we figure out a workable way to do the above, this will then necessarily ~monetize the patchchains~, resulting in fixed capital value for all existing chains based on their future-royalty value.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:34:11 trinque: eh "this morning's experiments" don't appear to be on a blog or otherwise documented
mircea_popescu: (ftr, this being a purely apache job, i do expect to see flask and crap taken out ; but othrweise no problem having actual channel sitting bot in python, doesn't hafta be rewritten or anything like that.)
mircea_popescu thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that comments le
mircea_popescu: except with also excerpt consisting of prefix / suffix one dozen words around each search term, separated by [...] magic string) as html files (date-time-terms.html) in a special /<botname>-search directory ; and b) takes irc trackbacks, to any article from trilema mentioned in the logs,
mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934300 << you actually don't even fucking need it ; it's a stop-gap measure.
BingoBoingo: The other common trap here on listing prices is they'll list what they want to walk away with and paying that leaves a balance with the banco hipotecario
BingoBoingo: Here's another way the fuck too proud pricing on a potential "INSTITUTO CULTURAL O DE ENSEÑANZA": https://archive.is/2lmyw
mircea_popescu: for everyone else, it'd be a concentration camp. but for the inmates -- it's home.
BingoBoingo: Filtering out stuff like that place is a part of the notes cleaning. The other part is shit that was at an interesting price point for the location selling.
mircea_popescu: i expect they're going to incrementally improve on trotskysm cinematruck / rooseveltism "uber eats", just have a truck visit with supplies weekly.
BingoBoingo: Not a great location either
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Cursed bulding. retarded past occupants as per: "La propiedad estuvo alquilada hasta el 2016 por el Banco IDRC (International Divelopment Reserch Center) entidad Canadiense que hizo todas las prestaciones para los niveles de calidad que este tipo de empresa necesita, tanto a nivel de seguridad como de comodidades para trabajar, respetando el Patrimonio Histórico de la casa principal."
BingoBoingo: Any less than 18 and no way a cleaning rotation is covering that place
BingoBoingo: Anyways if there were 40+ warm bodies and a desire to stot I'd suggest https://archive.is/uYcck
mircea_popescu: maybe that's the right move here, transform the badly mismanaged foundation, have it start a college.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, his idea might be good, actually. what's the uk requirements for starting a private college ?
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do we want a buncha patternmatchers anyway ?
BingoBoingo: I don't see what's wrong with calling it a college and graduating it to University once 1+ graduates have the credentials to propose new faculties to the college
BingoBoingo: Most of the other folks I met here that share a common language with me pattern match Buenos Aires=Bigger=Better
BingoBoingo: Maybe some other label, but not incubator. At least not incubator in a frost free climate
BingoBoingo: God no, I haven't seen a startup incubator that doesn't smell like the sump in my HS locker room.
diana_coman: I have been seriously pondering if I need for YoungHands to actually get a physical space to call "incubator" /similar since apparently that's the magic word that wards off evil or something.
mircea_popescu: there's 0 reason we even need to give a shit about hunchenbacktoot / rest of heathen world. people pay thousands/month to lease space in "seattle tech incubator", it's ~free here.
mircea_popescu: and, of course, can meter / charge for usage! a bitcent at a time, deedbot won't mind.
mircea_popescu: that's a little over 1 / day!
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934288 << you're not thinking this through. what's a page, <100kb ? what's the daily output, 100 of these ? you're comitting to 10mb / day thereby ? ie a hour's blockchain ? this too much to ask for the republic ?
mircea_popescu: that wasn't an ~idle~, throwaway comment, btw. "don't let me keep you from your destiny" means exactly what it says : that there's a way we know things do actually work, and then there's a history of the republic to date -- it consists of a lulzy/depressing but in any case unrelenting march of people trying to do anything-but-that, everywhich way and all the time.
mircea_popescu: yes, from inside the madness it "seems" like "oh but what's the difference". there's a fucking difference.
mircea_popescu: html is, we insistently remind, A STATELESS PROTOCOL. no "logins". no cookies. no bullshit.
mircea_popescu: she's been in here, available, 90% of the time wasted during the intervening year. anyone had anything to ask, about easily the most interesting thing that happened ~on a personal level~, at least since bb actually got the fuck out / mocky tiptoed the sea ?
mircea_popescu: and, exactly like the dumb strippers of yore, you... explained it away, rite ? (for bonus lulz points, in a manner already documented on trilema, to boot!)