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mats: 'chink' doesn't correlate to california at all
asciilifeform: at this point, i don't regard any aspect of the whole orchestra as honestly measurable
asciilifeform: and our collective salaries - aren't ?
decimation: I suspect that problem wouldn't be as pronounced with a hard-banking hard currency
asciilifeform: the rent collectors don't sleep
decimation: trinque: sure, but it wouldn't be if people moved there
asciilifeform: i can't be arsed
williamdunne: asciilifeform: Scoopbot doesn't deal with phuctor, that's trinquebot
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: I can't tolerate any of them currently. Blockchain.info is constantly broken, and all the others have these horrible gaudy interfaces.
decimation: wasn't that where the bctc guy lived?
williamdunne: It really is remarkable how blockchain.info didn't go down the goxhole, they just consistently break
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: she will get laid that day. whereas 90%+ of normal-looking blokes - won't. << She apparently even managed to fuck this up. Reportedly gave friend sad handjob and blackmailed for attention the next day with promise of putting out eventually. Was driven to bar in the ghetto and left (could not run to vehicle in time to stop it)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: she will get laid that day. whereas 90%+ of normal-looking blokes - won't.
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Are you suggesting that our tumblrina protagonist isn't witty, or special like the most specialist of snowflakes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: like anything else that works even though 'shouldn't', this works
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: I don't understand how they don't think "oh, maybe they'll be confused when they see me in person?"
williamdunne: Don't believe she was wearing someone else's face either
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform changes gloves, gas mask filter << Shouldn't you step away from the cesium dust first?
asciilifeform: this, again, isn't even related to what i was thinking of. but encountered by accident.
williamdunne: Aye, which was remarkable really. Didn't see any others. She was very nice and I still talk to her, but headshots and angles are good at lying
asciilifeform: won't be earning any 'nobels', there is no way in heaven or hell that it could be retrofitted to bitcoin proper
williamdunne: I might be into some things, but anthropomorphic animals aren't one of those things
williamdunne: Furry definitely isn't something I'd label myself with
funkenstein_: we can't know what procedure miners are using to set their own clocks
mircea_popescu: yes, magical offset in that you don't know who's lying.
mircea_popescu: jurov that's a pretty weird graph considering the gaps aren't even same size o.O
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 21:05:13; ascii_field: i still can't fathom why this wasn't sop from day 1.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1192198 << it meant to demonstrate bitcoin doesn't work if it doesn't work on the redditards' terms. it managed to demonstrate instead redditards don't matter, even when they pay for the voice. ☝︎
mod6: i screwed up i don't have realpath installed.
mod6: ( i patched in ascii's dump/eat block as well, but got a bunch of errors I didn't get last time ): http://dpaste.com/0C67TTN.txt
asciilifeform: the realization comes from the fact that you don't really need accurate time, just an oscillator that is reasonably independence of amplitude
asciilifeform: doesn't help pogo
williamdunne: I couldn't even update "Ich bin zwolf jahre alt" to make sense in my current state without the assistance from google translate.
BingoBoingo: But still, that isn't the complete type. It's the entire shape of the face: very, very Anglo
BingoBoingo: phf: It sync'd and so far it hasn't forked outside of the ways other Bitcoins have
BingoBoingo: <mod6> phf: i built on 5.6 but I can't seem to get mine to be be statically built :( << First thing to understand about OpenBSD is that it is a weird unix. Not as weird as Linux, but differently weird.
phf: BingoBoingo: that's a good idea, i decided to punt on it, because i don't fully understand the reasoning behind the whole 1.0.1g freeze
mod6: phf: i built on 5.6 but I can't seem to get mine to be be statically built :(
mod6: for those who don't remember, we used to get stuck at block 252`450 before with only 10000 locks set
shinohai: Good find mod6, I hadn't got that far back yet
mats: it doesn't look like bitcoin is ready for prime time
ben_vulpes: <mod6> i seem to remember asciilifeform switching over to -addnode after he got stuck. but let's see what he says about it. i'll probably hit the same issue myself. << i don't think he did
ascii_field: we know that it doesn't
danielpbarron: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=960.msg13833#msg13833 >> I don't understand, are you under the impression that the program sets the system clock? It doesn't. << Satoshi on bitcoin time
trinque: but the ebnf I was modeling wasn't convoluted inward on itself this haphazardly
ascii_field: this one doesn't look like it even tried
ascii_field: i DON'T WANT that
ascii_field: that still doesn't look like ~all~ the unique symbols in the tree
ascii_field: i still can't fathom why this wasn't sop from day 1. ☟︎
ascii_field: http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=258&start=10 << english, better photos
BingoBoingo: Well, he didn't sign the comment
mircea_popescu: jurov how am i going to speak here if i can't paste the assbot text ?
BingoBoingo: Obviously something went wrong, but blaming the process, or Bitcoin Core's implementation is disingenious. Neither was this caused by wide use of old software, because old software would simply keep producing v2 blocks, so the change would never have triggered." << Ergo these new multi-block forks aren't happening
ascii_field: 'it wasn't us, because we're the core devs, and ergo it wasn't us, fuck you'
shinohai: I'm close to the state of Alabama, shouldn't be hard.
mircea_popescu: careful shinohai next you'll buy into the cult koolaid that milk doesn't come from supermarket
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i don't want you to be doingm it, you do useful things with your time
jurov: yes. you don't read trilema?
mircea_popescu: (pro tip : it doesn't handle pasting atm har har.)
mircea_popescu: don't ask and you won't have to find out.
jurov: folks. "hackedteam" leak is 99% downloaded, but i don't really have a place to publicly host it
mod6: <+ascii_field> mod6: anything that requires the operator to even know that routers exist is inapplicable for pogo << yeah was reading what you guys were saying. basically why I didn't bring it up. too hard for mom & pop.
jurov: parsing ntp reply doesn't need lots of code
ascii_field: realize, i don't have a better solution than ntp. but it has to be done sanely (no dns; builds under musl or uclibc; doesn't introduce more than a few dozen lines of code; and picks from $bigint ip on powerup; and sanity-checked from blockchain )
mod6: yeah. haven't been able to follow for the last 45 minutes though.
mircea_popescu: you can't have ntp without windows solitaire, what world do you live on
ascii_field: i don't want dns in there. anywhere.
mircea_popescu: that also doesn't keep time./
mircea_popescu: i don't feel too good about asking people who trust me to put a box on the net that's open to flooding people.
mircea_popescu: i thought from your prev line you weren't but anywa
mircea_popescu: you can't rewrite the blocks.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1191138 << you can't actually mislead anyone ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you still don't like my, "-time=blabla" in start-up call ?
mircea_popescu: there's no "truthful" means to breach a convention by getting the REAL reality of it. just like you can't deduce a girl out of her panties.
decimation: nobody has told me why I can't observe the position of the sun in the sky, use today's date, and reduce the time
ascii_field: don't even need hitler there. just a kid with an sdr card
mircea_popescu: listen, can't the thing ask the local isp for time ?
decimation: doesn't need to, treats as man on the street
decimation: don't need to only rely on the ntp reply
ascii_field: and if you don't hear an answer ?
ascii_field: decimation: it is well known that you don't
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> so now we're asking for a non-retarded complete reimplementation of ntp. << reimplemented, can't guarentee not retarded in its own way
mircea_popescu: like the housewives, you know, "oph, i don;t care about the crisis, my husband does all that money stuff" "orly ? shut up and sit down, goose."
mircea_popescu: ascii_field they don't care now in the manner they don't care about how well oiled their rifle is.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't.
punkman: I don't see how lamport clock would help
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 19:14:54; punkman: blockchain doesn't order events based on time
jurov: why? in hft order doesn't matter?
mircea_popescu: doesn't matter!
punkman: blockchain doesn't order events based on time ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you ain't got nottin.
mircea_popescu: you don't appreciate the depth of this problem
decimation: don't need cesium to keep time to 2hr window
decimation: can't someone in china look at the sky?
decimation: I didn't realize that usg owns time now too
mircea_popescu: the only new thing in the world is the history you didn't know, and the only thing that's worse than what we have today
ascii_field: and they aren't sweeping the house, but shitting on the carpet
mircea_popescu: basically he could be in government : he's decided to externalise the cost he can't bore
ascii_field: and - somehow - can't collude
punkman: mircea_popescu: this dies, because you will find a random block which is 00000000000000000000000000000f and game over. << this is incorrect. you don't infer the target from the hash. 256bit target is included in all block headers.