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BingoBoingo: They even seemed to have had their own skunkworks program where they might have been trying to get to bronze a few millenia too late https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound_34
BingoBoingo: The view from the big pile of dirt into Missouri is pretty sweet.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Yes "Mississippians" Seems smallpox probably got to them before the pale faces did.
decimation: BingoBoingo: the 'mound culture'?
BingoBoingo: The geographic area occupied by present day Collinsville, Illinois had a population of ~35,000 600 years ago, and has a similar population today.
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah that formula 'fits' - culture is derived in a convergence of circumstances + time
Vexual: Might give it a look, The tourist was watchable
Vexual: and then some
mircea_popescu: the zulus managed to start over each century moving 100 miles.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the germans come from fucking central asia. so what of it.
mircea_popescu: iroquis also came from somewhere, but once they came, it was all new.
decimation: yet, us folk come from somewhere, where did that culture go?
mircea_popescu: maybe it's scaling with the usg *gasp*
mircea_popescu: decimation> so your point is that the lack of egalitarianism did not foster a culture? << my point being that culture is strictly a matter of time. how people organise is irrelevant. which also means there's no shortcuts.
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ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: the great fork war is inevitable. and we know what is on their side of the line. but what is on the other? the miners' mystery forks? our gadget, that doesn't even load the blockchain? << consider the gadget a piece of art. as always, the miners determine everything.
decimation: I guess 'person' means whatever some court finds that it means, when they are presented with the question
ben_vulpes: clearly wagering on usg winning this round
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell JorgePasada see above
ben_vulpes: *** assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot) has changed mode for #bitcoin-assets to +v JorgePasada << where's my node, bitch
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: damn did you hoover up the only copy?
asciilifeform: normally they state 'u.s. subject' or similar.
decimation: presumably 'person' means 'person to which us law applies'
asciilifeform: just think, kurchatov or sakharov, could have sat in an american jail
asciilifeform: 'It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce, transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.'
asciilifeform: ^ the nuke thing.
PeterL: no, not yet, I'm gonna swith it to a different chan for a minute while I derp with it a bit
ben_vulpes: PeterL: i'm not trying to make you cry, but mebbe offer suggestions how to keep the thing up
decimation: so your point is that the lack of egalitarianism did not foster a culture?
PeterL: sorry, trying to fix it right now
mircea_popescu: decimation it owned all the land, and allocated it. it owned the peasants, and regulated their life. basically think beehive with the queen unembodied.
ben_vulpes: PeterL: do you need a hand with stabilizing that thing?
mircea_popescu: nah, the mir, the village "corporation" of sorts.
decimation: you mean the space station :)
ben_vulpes: clever you, hanbot. it's cremant du jura though.
mircea_popescu: the russians had the mir for as long as the memory goes, and yet.
mircea_popescu: decimation this is not true.
ben_vulpes: nah just polishing off a bottle of champagne in the office
decimation: plus, the radical egalitarianism is like an acid that dissolves the nascent culture before it begins
decimation: yeah that's true
mircea_popescu: it's just too damned young.
decimation: I think that the low country "jante law" culture is one of the things that provides an impetus to the lack of us folklore/home culture
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mircea_popescu: what is this then, folklore ?
mircea_popescu: kansas culture = "move to ny, for a better life" + "check out the corn!!1"
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah, but there's something lacking in the us - they can't seem to believe that they have their own culture and avoid trying to make one
decimation: yeah actually I agree with that law
mircea_popescu: decimation point being, europe is europe because it's europe, not because some kansas kids decided to wear bedsheets once and poof.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's hardly noteworthy. for as long as navigation was a thing, navigating without a banner meant being an outlaw.
decimation: mircea_popescu: usians hate the idea of paying for roads
mircea_popescu: maybe the author could be come a girl by selling lipstick.
mircea_popescu: totally. i like thios reasoning.
mircea_popescu: yah lol. how to become europe ? "insert toll roads"
mircea_popescu: " If we could even get ourselves down to a Western European level of car dependence, we would cut road fatalities to a third of their present value and improve our quality of life in innumerable ways."
decimation: lincoln and then fdr removed that restriction
decimation: in the early constitution era it was thought that congress was limited to passing laws about things that were actually mentioned in their charter in the constitution
decimation: another famous one is the law that bans illegal wood harvest anywhere in the world
asciilifeform: that is, there are actually laws on the books which specifically say 'anyone, anywhere, whether he even knows we exist'
mircea_popescu: for most of its history, the us knew better, an saw itself as a minor player.
asciilifeform: citizens - yes. i was thinking of other
decimation: the first one that comes to mind are the 'foreign banking' laws w.r.t. us citizens
mircea_popescu: that us libtards gave themselves and in their own mind some sort of major role in the world is novel.
asciilifeform: i can remember a few - the one with the flag-less submarines, and the one forbidding any biped on planet 3 from working on nukes without u.s. blessing
asciilifeform would love to read a collection of all the u.s. federal laws that claim extraterritoriality.
decimation: like the national assembly in revolutionary france, congress feels that they can make policy about anything whatsoever
decimation: mircea_popescu: in the us it is customary to label any policy whatsoever as 'reform'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from delano to obama << 'от ильича до ильича'
decimation: asciilifeform: I finished 17 moments of spring, thanks for the recommendation. It was an interesting show
mircea_popescu: from delano to obama, a bridge of shit.
mircea_popescu: consisting principally of throwing out 80 years of accumulated gunk masquerading as "reform"
mircea_popescu: he 114th Congress may seem like an unlikely source of major reform. With the Republicans in control of both houses and a second-term Democratic president wielding the veto pen"
asciilifeform thought 'rentalstarter' was a btc thing
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: where does the btc come in then
The20YearIRCloud: Money, cash, cashier's checks, checks, ect, no one so far has ever heard of BTC, along with most not having access to a computer
Vexual: yeah, that got me too
asciilifeform: most of our tenants don't have PCs << wai wat
The20YearIRCloud: lol, that could be interesting
BingoBoingo: What about lacquering them onto the doors?
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The20YearIRCloud: most of our tenants don't have PCs
The20YearIRCloud: I wanted to run a contest and give a few away to non-tenants, as they'd likely have much more of a desire for em
Vexual: send it to his publisher
nubbins`: and i guess taleb's mailing address is hard to find.
nubbins`: fwiw i think they'd have been better served given to people who we'd like to see in here, but hey, i'm just the printer 8)
nubbins`: at this rate you'll have the first poster given away in no time 8)
BingoBoingo: ^ The TLDR, shift some bezzel around and make it easier for the US to partition further
nubbins`: <The20YearIRCloud> Looks like we (RentalStarter) are in contract for two more homes, putting our total to 12 properties / 17 units
assbot: It's time to abolish the Interstate Highway System - The Week
undata: asciilifeform | at any rate, 'jeff of 1950' was not entirely wrong; computers have yet to really catch on... << this printing thing hasn't really caught on yet; all they're printing are more bibles
BingoBoingo: It's parimutuel model was prolly too fair in pricing
Vexual: all the players died from seizures or something?
Vexual: thanks for the link to your blogpost mp, not I know what I sound like 3 force drunk
asciilifeform: at any rate, 'jeff of 1950' was not entirely wrong; computers have yet to really catch on...
mircea_popescu: war is generally the best part.
mircea_popescu: fuck that.
mircea_popescu: would be a sore loss to win without a war. instead of a solid enjoyment of rape and plunder, do not pass go, directly to the trudge of administration ?
asciilifeform armchair admiral, and cannot presume to know what sort of war, fought with what
asciilifeform: did not say 'they' win. said - there shall be war.
mircea_popescu: worked so admirably well, teh line.