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mircea_popescu: you know if this helpful ddosing of noobs continues we might even not need the voice thing anymore.
asciilifeform: it was simply against 'knock'im over the head and take pistol' thing.
mircea_popescu: or wait, no, was it "6 years schooling each, together = ged" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought it was for the other reason
asciilifeform: in ussr (at one time) policemen were required to walk their beat in pairs. for this reason.
cazalla: undata, it's not that, i just hate hearing about the injustice and all this over shit, they play it over and over in the media here and we don't even have guns or nignogs
mircea_popescu: undata cops sweating is also pretty common in the south.
undata: but this cops killing black kids thing is pretty common in the south
mircea_popescu: cazalla seems to me on somewhat intuitively obvious, this. taking the gun of some armed entity is one of those things where you take your life in your hands. either you know what you're doing or don't complain at the results.
undata: to stop beating around the bush with "nignog"
undata: cazalla: I'm merely pointing out that you enjoy assuming the nigger got what he deserved.
assbot: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/11QmHLM )
mircea_popescu: Sid3waY http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ there.
cazalla: best not fail then or we hear from undata how such failure is fault of cop
S1deway: So is the interest rate the same on shorts and longs?
mircea_popescu: cazalla if one tries and fails
cazalla: i'm not arguing that taking a gun from a cop is a bad/good thing, just that if one tries, don't be surprised if shot
mircea_popescu: there wasn't at any point the possibility ~i'd~ get shot.
mircea_popescu: bitch was in no position to do anything. i could have shot her dead. that i didn't is an act of mercy on
mircea_popescu: but the deeper moral is : see idiot with gun, take it from him. okay.
undata: ha, that's awesome
mircea_popescu: well, she was either untrained or inept, but in any case a danger to herself an' others. and i knew her boss.
cazalla: undata, aren't you assuming the cop shot him simply because he is black?
mircea_popescu: Sid3waY it's perfectly allowed, just, i dunno that anyone actuallytrusts it to keep money there.
undata: you're just assuming he went for the gun because it fits your predetermined view on the thing
undata: cazalla: the whole "nignog" thing doesn't exactly give you the intellectual high ground here
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i'll train em to fight like pokemon
cazalla: undata, i don't think that at all, i just think it's a bit much to cry over a cop killing a nignog who tried to grab his gun when said nignogs kill each other in greater numbers but no media circus there, no riots either
mircea_popescu: Sid3waY generally the standing advice on bitfinex is that you should get off that scam.
mircea_popescu: cazalla so if the young males don't off each other what are you going to do with the losers ? teach them javascript ?
Sid3waY: I'm looking for a Lil help on margin trading on bitfinex
asciilifeform: the 'police brutality' crap is orchestrated by u.s. lizard media. ergo it is simply a prelude to a 'sudden, brilliant, hope, change 11!111!!' 'solution' - a national gendarmerie. think 'dhs' but this time 'for real.'
mircea_popescu: undata the actual population.
undata: or cut the pretense that the cops are there to protect the population
cazalla: they off each in greater numbers, why not campaign about that instead
undata: I grew up in TX, where cops shooting unarmed black kids doesn't even make the news.
undata: cazalla: a cop would never lie about that after shooting an unarmed guy
cazalla: undata: in the words of reddit, if you try to grab a cops gun, you're gonna have a bad time
undata: seems easy to hide
undata: regarding undersea living, I'd be concerned that a hostile govt would simply destroy the thing
undata: 2058, undata retires to L5 to tend his greenhouse
asciilifeform: undata: defeating enemies on earth looks expensive, but is cheaper than space flight and terraforming (the latter, no one has even an elementary clue how to even estimate the cost.)
undata: seems to me spaceflight is going to be required for any innovative approaches to "making a society" to emerge
asciilifeform: notice that nuke does not prevent owner from being killed, but increases the cost. and there are other ways to affect the cost.
mats_cd03: too bad. i've got the paper version, but pulp doesn't have the "find" feature yet.
undata: asciilifeform: conversely if one thinks with too broad a brush, all possible conditions look the same
asciilifeform: undata: to repurpose an old proverb: 'beware of turing's tarpit, where anything is possible but nothing of interest is easy.'
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: would you happen to know where i can find warez of "What makes it page?"
thestringpuller: makes the fiction of stealing a nuke and making your own country a lot more rational
asciilifeform: undata: sure - change. this does not disprove above scheme.
undata: it just takes a hell of a lot of peasant-grinding
asciilifeform: undata: for 'everyday engineering' definition of 'get away' - sure. who, exactly, lives in usa that usg cannot kill 'with impunity' ?
undata: thestringpuller: I said that, was accused of derpitude
chetty: well that threshold keeps expanding
thestringpuller: instead of police we should just go back to having voluntary militias
undata: their heads tend to roll after a certain threshold
chetty: undata, so many cop shootings out there, prolly a video of most anything available somewhere, which in fact makes the point.
asciilifeform: undata: the one that can clobber the others (should there be any) 'with impunity' is called 'sovereign'.
asciilifeform: undata: pick a square metre of planet, and you can come up with one or more parties that 'can kill with impunity' there.
asciilifeform: undata: notice that i did not specify what i personally like (who the hell cares) - but did make a claim re: mechanics.
undata: chetty: the video I saw was a guy yelling at a cop
undata: asciilifeform: so you do not believe there should be law?
chetty: well the info 'leaked' so far sure sounds like self defense. But face it, none of us know what happened really. The kid that got shot cause he answered the door with a game controller in his hand would seem a lot better example, to me.
asciilifeform: 'cops shouldn't kill with impunity', parsed through intellectual honesty filter, simply implies 'a different set of bandits should be able to kill with impunity, including possibly killing original set'
chetty: undata, true, but this particular case doesn't seem to be an example of that problem
BingoBoingo: You know its serious because they are locking the mailboxes
chetty: the 60s never went away, just took a trip
undata: BingoBoingo: I'm going to hazard a guess
BingoBoingo: What the verdict is supposedly is coming later today, but...
BingoBoingo: According to the radio the grand Jury finally came to a decision in the Ferguson case. Won't way what it is yet, but a good chunk of St Louis County went into lockdown.
jurov: asciilifeform i just remembered to ask. but i'll try more emails and see
TomServo: Boy, the pheeva hipster mascot does a great job capturing my lack of interest in their product.
assbot: The boys at Pheeva are crowd-funding to get their commercial onto ESPN for the Bitcoin Bowl. I donated. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1xNrfzn )
jurov: but it got blackholed too apparently
jurov: btw asciilifeform can you ask your hosting about the emails? i sent polite inquiry to support@nearlyfreespeech.net
asciilifeform: (and before anyone asks, no, that isn't an actual 'actiontek' - spoofed mac for isp that originally shipped one)
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: have to go to meatspace thing soon though
nubbins`: my friend's folks go down there for a few months every year, apparently it's common to use the golf cart to go to the store, etc
nubbins`: <+cazalla> zomg, anyone heard of a mobility golf cart? <<< cazalla iirc these are a thing in florida retirement communities
mircea_popescu: still the #1 threat.
assbot: More Kiwis leaving Australia than coming for the first time in 21 years | SBS News ... ( http://bit.ly/1tpxZ07 )
cazalla: interesting, new zealanders are like australia's version of mexicans - Fewer New Zealanders are leaving for Australia and more Kiwis are returning home. Statistics that have just been released show New Zealand's annual net migration gain rising to a record for the third consecutive month, led by an increase in student arrivals from India and fewer Kiwis crossing the Tasman.
assbot: Razboiul cu "presa" in reluare pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1tpxuTR )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/razboiul-cu-presa-in-reluare/#comment-76264 << the ddos kiddies of 2012 lmao
cazalla: xanthyos, he's there tonight, just his talk is tmw or some shit, i dunno, i take offense at him being here in my home town :P
xanthyos: so you smelled him from even further in the future
cazalla: actually, his talk is tmw, some other idiots shilling altcoins tonight instead but even still..
mircea_popescu: lol they have a special revolutionary web2.0 site for slides ?
cazalla: if you would like to ask andreas derp a question tonight - https://www.sli.do/event/1zzatakl#ask
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and then how many tons of aluminum did you refine? or wasted! << lol i was only using about 1mw +-
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> once upon a time my contacts were made to order. << should have bought 500 pairs.
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform never grasped the appeal of 'let's now screw this bit of plastic into eye' << cause women don't look good in glasses.
mircea_popescu: the skin is worth more than half the rabbit ffs.
xanthyos: i just got a tablet and i want to find a reliable authing app
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you could make a deal where you prepaid consumption at fixed rate. so i did << and then how many tons of aluminum did you refine? or wasted!
asciilifeform was not able to determine if face meant 'thanks' or 'you moron'. experiment wasted.
asciilifeform: it only appears cheap to folks who are not inmates.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 3x what a house apparently costs in ohio << dirty math here. house in ohio costs 100% of a typical ohio inmate's disposable income. just like in ca or dc.
asciilifeform: mats_cd03, mircea_popescu: regin trojan << mega-lol. run moar winblows, yes.
asciilifeform: so long as cursors do not leave 'snail trails' - satisfied.