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jurov: undata:
there's parallels
to sudetenland annexion and numerous other historical precedents.. it's very unlikely putin just stops
there.
undata: jurov: do you
think he's after more
than just involving ukraine in a permanent border dispute
to foul potential nato membership?
bagels7: does
the US "governemnt" kill more inocent people
than isis
bagels7: yeah my boyfriend saw
trilema and was like "that guy is a
terrorist" just from
the look
mircea_popescu: imagine, random chance a better bet.
that's
the fucking antithesis of statality.
jurov: i also heard
there's an approach somewhere "mircea_popescu is evil"
mircea_popescu: which is in and of itself
the saddest indictment one can ever hear about any state.
mircea_popescu: this is not necessarily a bankrupt approach, arguably even better fitted
than "everything us is good"
mircea_popescu: so far
their ideology pretty much reduces
to "anything us is evil" as best i can
tell.
jurov: if isis becomes concern,
then i may consider
their propaganda,
too
mircea_popescu: right, which is how you know he's just realpolitiking all over nuland's face, ass and
tits.
jurov: i
think what i
think because i'm watching RT,
too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i said "because if you're reading
the guardian&co, what you see
there is coming out of
the same sifon
that yields
the "putin is insane" spritz."
jurov: noo, mircea is pulling putin into
the discussion
mircea_popescu: jurov you didn't like my position on isis and i was
trying
to articulate it.
jurov: i will probably move if it keeps progressing... what was
the argument?
mircea_popescu: then you'll be in a better position
to appreciate
the inanity currently rotting your brain away.
mircea_popescu: bagels7
the best advice for you is
to a) create a list of 100 classical
texts written before 1800 ; b) spend
two weeks reading NOTHING online but
that. not anything. not a single page of popurls or whatever. none.
undata: that's sure
to raise awareness
bagels7: jehovah witnesses are child abusers and well I'm going
to do something about it!
bagels7: i worked harder
than anyone in my class and people would just say im smart so its easy for me and not a bid deal. I was learning japanese because I wanted
to go
to japan. but my cousin decided
to go 5 years later on a whim because well she had suport for every step in her life where as me her mom and my dad held me back. Im just not planning on curing ebola or anything anytime soon.
mircea_popescu: because if you're reading
the guardian&co, what you see
there is coming out of
the same sifon
that yields
the "putin is insane" spritz.
undata: every human shoves along every other human as he/she can; religion's not a special case of
that
undata: bagels7:
touchy subject I'm sure; it'd
take nuance
to get my point about it across
mircea_popescu: jurov my position is, "their enemies which i don't particularly care for claim
they be evil, but otherwise also got beat
to shit".
this i can go for.
jurov: mircea_popescu: how it can be divided from politics? "yeah
they're utterly brainwashed zealots, but otherwise i like
their political views"???
bagels7: undata: I'm a victim, I don't have a victim mentality.
there is a difference. I did not have
the slighest victi mentality from age 4
to age 22 concerning my mom leaving me
mircea_popescu: <bagels7> idk 6 hours of week for church and spankings if you
talked or moved
too much for not being able
to sit still for 2 hours <<
that part's great. stfu and sit put.
omen1855: someone who used
to come here on occasion last year, no celebrity
bagels7: the beatings were way worse
than any bdsm "master" i had
mircea_popescu: undata is
this one of
those where kids get bored so
they claim
to see jesus and adults get all excited "because kids can't lie" and
then
the primary attention getting mechanism available
to kids is making wild religious revelation claims ?
undata: bagels7: don't give in
to
that victim mentality
bagels7: idk 6 hours of week for church and spankings if you
talked or moved
too much for not being able
to sit still for 2 hours
bagels7: I'm still rovering from
the jehovah witness's and religious brainwashing
mircea_popescu: in
this case, graybeard in computing means a
true expert.
mircea_popescu: a
term of art is a word
that has a speciffic meaning within a discipline.
chetty: lesson 1 bagels7 , judge
things one at a
time, not in groups
bagels7: i dont respect much gray hair anymore, due
to being deceived with
their lies
mircea_popescu: virtually all
the imbeciles we despise had computers as children.
mircea_popescu: all
the people we
think are ok met computers in college
mircea_popescu: bagels7
think of it
this way : most of
the graybeards
that we respect met computers in
their 50s, after fucking with paper for a long
time.
bagels7: well my brain capacity
to render images
bagels7: back
then I had a brain and motivation
to learn, now i don't care. let white society burn
bagels7: my intelligence has greatly been reduced, my dad was an idiot, i wanted a computer since i was 13 but
they only got one my second semester of college
chetty: undata much better off
these days with real mentors
than college
undata: hence lurking here and
trying
to absorb
things from
the polymaths present
undata: bagels7: I sought good mentors along
the way who beat sensible habits into me
mircea_popescu: sure, if you want
to melt
the cheese you can go "and
taleban bombed nyc"
undata: now I'm doing my own
thing in software
undata: bagels7: I'd held software jobs since 16, just went back
to existing contacts for work
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't recall a humiliating defeat of
the us and its allies at
the hands of either iran or
taleban.
undata: bagels7: I left because college in
texas is a fucking joke
jurov: or you have embassies in
the later?
jurov: mircea_popescu i don't get it, what sets isis aart from iran and
taleban?
undata: bagels7: spend
the 4 bucks or whatever and pay
the man
bagels7: undata: me
too, but i flucked out due
to paying for rent and food rather
than school stuff
mircea_popescu: mebbe someone in your position contribures what looked best
to
them ?
mircea_popescu: generally
the way
this works is someone asks a question and sometimes i pop an article out. but
they're generally much more concrete.
bagels7: relevent
to being aware of
the world or just being sucessful
bagels7: Hi, Im new so I was hoping you could link me
to
the most relevent articles since I only have 5 per week
mircea_popescu: hey
there s. we were just
talkin bout isis. how do you
take
that ? :D
mircea_popescu: imagine
the whole saltmines of salt i need for all
these other "reports"
mircea_popescu: undata if i sent my spymaster
there, and she operated without constraint and superhuman power
to report,
undata: maybe
those guys end up outcompeting
the religious idiots from within
undata: who is
to say what it ends up looking like
undata: mircea_popescu: I've seen it mentioned several
times
that "ISIS" is
the face of a force non-negligibly comprised of former baathists, etc
mircea_popescu: we see
the burning, we know
the arsonist, could we not say isis in in control of
the us
today ?
mircea_popescu: as far as any observer can determine, isis burned 50
trn worth of us soil.
mircea_popescu: this alone is good credentials, but consider : 50
trn is
the us going
to pay over
the next 50 years for
that war, and
they were sent home by isis.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would go so far as
to say
that isis is
the
thing
that made
the us destroy its permanent installations in baghdad, something
that has not happened since china beatthem in vietnam.
mats_cd03: cazalla: i'm not surprised, /. would be a better audience
than reddit
mircea_popescu: so far it's not a
thing yet, and it should be supported, merely
to ruin more of
the socialist world.
chetty: I'm not so sure about
the human material, Egyptians can't read maps ...
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the discussion of whether we like or dislike isis is
to be had once isis is a
thing.
undata: asciilifeform: I wonder
the same
thing: is it a matter of policy
to help re-establish a caliphate?
mircea_popescu: they're currently going
through
the "hate
them" phase. perhaps
this may soon resolve al-fucking-ready.
mircea_popescu: they are cutting up women because
they're desperately
trying
to resolve
the significant sociopolitical problem of carin what women
think.
mircea_popescu: the usg is as related
to
this as
the fly on
the radiator related
to
the car crash.