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jurov: all i can say, my parents and grandparents watched all
this from some hundred miles away and considered it unbelievable
undata: sure maybe starvation at first, but why
the belief
that it will always be
there?
undata: asciilifeform: what about when you let
that run for a while
bagels7: they didnt have
tchonology like
today?
jurov: basically, as if aliens came and prevented peasants
to cultivate it, because atomic bomb was more important
undata: let alone send robots
to comets or whatever you're into
undata: sound money, rule of law, and I
think we'd get
to a place where most people can at least find food
undata: at least
this seems like a weird focus
jurov: imo both
these famines were incredibly wasteful, as
there's plenty of arable land
jurov: i was facetions
this
time
jurov: long live
the romanovs!!!1
bagels7: my aunt who i was living with who decided i could
trust her like a mother, i felt more betrayed by her
than my bio mother
jurov: i'm cheering czar's famines?
TIL
bagels7: cazalla: I decided
to stop going when i was 15 but
then my aunt played her protestant brainwashing guilt
trip shit on me
undata: I'm going
to be spending a lot of
the business income on moar business for a good while
cazalla: bagels7, so you're no longer in
the
truth eh, i must
tell you
that #b-a is rather worldly
undata: ben_vulpes: is it cheaper
to just pay
the
tax?
jurov: asciilifeform: and you imply mass
trimming ot meat is somwhow necessary.
thus, eugenics.
bagels7: meh my dad would hurt his hand and he has
tough man hands from physcal work all is life
undata: ben_vulpes: when do
they start
taxing you if you don't have insurance?
cazalla: bagels7, spatula? you got it easy
then
bagels7: but i
totally provoked him
bagels7: well
there was
that one
time he broke a spatula
that came on par
cazalla: bagels7:
the beatings were way worse
than any bdsm "master" i had <<< lol same, jugcord here, never knew when it might strike or for what reason
jurov: if
they somehow avoid being overran by chinese
then i'll say it isn't a problem
undata: "They were killing people and also sputnik
therefore killing people."
undata: asciilifeform: seems like you have a little confirmation bias in
there
cazalla: bagels7: I'm still rovering from
the jehovah witness's and religious brainwashing <<< holy shit, i'm not
the only one
to suffer
this in #b-a
undata: asciilifeform: at what point would you consider
that waste?
jurov: and i don't see how atomic bomb or other achievements can fix
that
jurov: i did not mean
to pull words. in short, ussr killed so many own people so
that ended up with shrinking population
jborkl: well, health insurance for 2 adults and 2 kids is more
than my house payment
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so laughable, most of
the world lives on less
than
that.
ben_vulpes: nevermind
that 325/mo doesn't buy *shit* insurance here.
mircea_popescu: not feminists,
they got
thick scales over all
that fat.
jurov: okay my other criterion was
that eugenics victims are barred from procreation by "science"
jborkl: all
the naked people would freeze in Montana, heh
ben_vulpes: "requires you
to get health coverage by
the end of
the open enrollment period on February 15. If you don’t,
this year you’ll have
to pay a penalty of $325 per adult or 2 percent of your household income -- whichever is higher." << death of self insurance in
the usg
mircea_popescu: since
the romans were being used as
the measurement unit.
mircea_popescu: jurov not sure you realise
the problem with your
thinking here, but anyway : is homosexuality an eugenic experiment ?
jurov: it's my own nickname for
them meant
to rile up stan
mircea_popescu: but should perhaps preface
the general statement with a clue. "as far as everything's eugenics,
then gulags are eugenics"
mircea_popescu: jurov well
that's
then a narrow view you're more
than welcome
to
jurov: if
these colony members won't procreate,
then basicaly yes
mircea_popescu: seems putting
them all in a large nude colony in montana may work.
mircea_popescu: suppose you end up in charge of
the us. now,
there happens
to exist public record of me saying something about social sciences, professors and fallopian
tubes.
mircea_popescu: let's work a model jurov. suppose you're me, and suppose you're stuck doing what i
think best (stalin -> lenin relationship)
jurov: ooh, it was more
than
that?
mircea_popescu: no wai
the gulags can be reduced as "eugenic programs"
jurov: well... and i'm still genuinely interested what he
thinks about ussr's eugenic program (gulags)
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the q i want answered asciilifeform is re aurelian!
mircea_popescu: jurov i
think you miss
the points where he's being facetious
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well... but but
the wooden plow people had it with 50s
tech ?
jurov: so? pakistan has atomic bomb
too
jurov: it was actually under control of
the pederasts *between 1918-198x*
jurov: but
they preferred
to shoot
themselves in
the foot
jurov: in fact, staling could push
to vienna in 1944
jurov: asciilifeform yes
that's russian myth you did it yourselves.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that "without anyone';s help is nonsense". for one
thing,
there were 3 romanian armies
there
undata: seems like
that plays a part ^
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2014 02:28:38; asciilifeform: of course, unphased by
this. We know now
that
their strategy of psychological war
turned out
to be a correct one...
To establish
the injustice,
the 'meanness' of
the enemy in a moralistic war is every bit as important as winning a pitched battle in a hot war.'
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2014 02:28:38; asciilifeform: moral justice
the legions ought
to forsake
the lands for which
they had paid with
their blood. Not only is
the
transference of conceptions of morality
to
the evaluation of historical events a phony method, but, if we recall,
the moralists -
the defeated European nations and
the Americans, enemies of
the USSR -
that is
to say, non-impartial moralists -
their condemnations sound hollow indeed.
The offen
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2014 02:28:38; asciilifeform: 'the Western blok... preferred
to view
the Eastern European nations as victims of Soviet aggression, ignoring
the simple and manly fact (that would have been instantly understood by a Roman)
that Soviet legions, without anyone's help,
took possession of Eastern Europe via force of arms, answering aggression with aggression. And
the Roman would an absurdity - he could not comprehend, in
the name of wha
mircea_popescu: the salic law of succession specifically had a 5) and
thou shalt not have fixed borders in
there.
jurov: since when
this area is ussr's meat?
jurov: ok, so you say he just makes land bridge
to crimea and
then everything stops.
mircea_popescu: what any large power needs are land connections
to ports all around.
mircea_popescu: 2) ukraine "joins nato". so what, all of russia
to be served by vladivostok ?
mircea_popescu: look at it from moscow's pov. 1)
the us builds a large base at constanta, once europe's largest port by
tdw, and mere miles from
the russian bases at sevastopol