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assbot: $296M in Bitcoin spending on Black Friday and Cyber Monday made it the 9th largest payment network in the world! http://t.co/jlTVDinyZf
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-weird-of-web-metrics/
assbot: The weird of web "metrics" pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z9cXJN )
mircea_popescu: punkman basically it meshes half sentences from the two huh.
mircea_popescu: "oh, setting our house on fire doesn't work ? I KNOW! let's set the house on fire WITH GASOLINE!"
mircea_popescu: adlai the only somewhat amusing / incredible if you're new thing about that entire stellar debacle is that... people still pretend like ripple's a thing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well of course they smell nice!
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> now it's inanities like the street tax to pave the ghetto. << srsly, paving the ghetto, for as long as it uses forced labour of the inhabitants and very rudimentary tools, and it's done in the middle of the summer, is a splendid idea.
mircea_popescu: the various defeated and meanwhile extinct tribes from the amazon valley to the pacific rim being the exact proof of this concept.
mircea_popescu: in the sense that humanity is either masculine or not worth the mention
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE INTERPRETATION << actually, the deeper reason is that masculinity is inextricably linked to the species,
assbot: Inglourious Ambassaders - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central ... ( http://bit.ly/1tYO3qF )
Namworld: My darn cat just opens cupboard and so on and claws bag open to eat pastas and so on... I'll need big plastic container to store pasta and so on in accessible locations, and keep the rest in places he can't get in.
assbot: The Doom that Came to Puppet ... ( http://bit.ly/1tYwdUP )
ben_vulpes: now it's inanities like the street tax to pave the ghetto.
ben_vulpes: once upon a time it was the schools, and there were bonds, and the people paid, and nothing changed.
ben_vulpes: undata: "street tax" << my parents have called portland a "benevolent communist state" for as long as i've lived here. it's only recently started to pass its inflection points letting the impoverished demand more and more.
ben_vulpes: paas wars are the db wars of 2015
ben_vulpes: "To me, that insistence can only come from one place: that gender—specifically, masculinity—is inextricably linked to software" << or perhaps that that pronouns are gendered in better languages than engris but whatever
ben_vulpes: <mats_cd03> ben_vulpes: what do you need that for? << 's a joke
assbot: Bitcoin in Argentina : exactly nothing to do with the derps pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8pRYk )
mircea_popescu: im gonna run http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/ will publish teh results.
gernika: I was able to collect email addresses via a signup page running an FB campaign at one time. Don't recall the conversion percentage at the moment but at that time at least there were real people clicking.
Namworld: I guess there's already people there.
mircea_popescu: Namworld can you be bothered to run a similar thing for me ? it's been half a year since i last tried them, moar lulz can't hurt.
Namworld: So unless there's other Bitcoin advertisers running bots, unlikely to target bot accounts. But stats still points to dodgy stuff. So I guess the majority is still bots.
Namworld: No, just by adding the term Bitcoin to targeting. So basically people that liked pages and so on or occasionally mention the term "Bitcoin", I believe.
asciilifeform: punkman: anyone using such a thing deserves what he gets
Namworld: Just by selecting people that have "Bitcoin" in their interests.
asciilifeform: (not because there had to be a mechanical defense against it. no mechanical pill against 'buy all the coins and throw into the sea.' but attempting this gambit, given a properly-designed coin, should cost above $maxint.)
punkman: asciilifeform: you could run your own private bitcoin, or private Tor network, or whatever
asciilifeform: if you can do the 'centralize' trick, it was always defective.
asciilifeform: recall the 'software does not wear out' article.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nm that!
punkman: I don't think Stellar was ever decentralized. They just had more than one server.
asciilifeform: first comment in above link has it: 'How'd you centralize your decentralized system? It sounds like something that shouldn't be possible unless it's actually centralized to begin with.'
mircea_popescu: Namworld how did you select that demo exactly ?
mircea_popescu: neither of these being either obvious or desirable, and their conjunction being why the coin in question - stellar or whatever - is dead.
mircea_popescu: but the actual choice is between "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent - certain to be followed - of converting it overnight into a centrally owned resource" and "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent of arbitrarily lost funds"
Namworld: It might be that facebook ad bots don't tend to have Bitcoin in their interest... at least yet. Hence why demographic looks accurate.
mircea_popescu: obviously if given the incorrectly statement "choice is obvious". a whole new mode of rational failure the us invented, "begging "the obvious" choice", similar to "begging the question"
mircea_popescu: of course, they manage to not even correctly state the choice.
mircea_popescu: gernika lulzy. i wonder if we see the same nonsense emerge in btc.
assbot: Joyce from Stellar here. Yes, that is correct. When given the choice between tem... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1G34g5Z )
gernika: mircea_popescu: "When given the choice between temporary centralization and guaranteeing the security of the protocol and therefore user funds, the choice is obvious. Once the new consensus algorithm is complete, it will be safe to run with more than one node again." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8709514
Namworld: Will have to derp some more around and complain for free credits.
Namworld: Eh, $50 for the heck of it and there was actually sales, but I didn't put a tracking link so hard to say. I have to change that immediately.
assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1G33Fky )
mircea_popescu: notably, athletes at the turn of the century (their dream briefly came through in the 60s, now it seems fucked again), and military men althrough the 1800s.
mircea_popescu: <undata> several generations of Americans at least believe that this is precisely what success looks like: you buy and sell a few houses and your life is on autopilot from then on << in their defense, all generations since the industrial revolution chiefly believed that this is what success looks like : you do a few things and that's that.
Namworld: Funny enough, it's targeted at both men and women that talk/liked pages related to Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: generally the business experience on the topic being that paying for someone to do the tech part and for someone to do the business part comes to 1-35% more than the value of the refunded clicks.
punkman: Namworld: if enough volume, you gotta look at your logs and ask them to refund some of the scamclicks
Namworld: Oh yeah, that thing. It's so funny
mircea_popescu: shockingly, this is in adweek, a wanna-be trade rag.
assbot: Roommate Buys Facebook Ads to Creep Out His Friend and Practice Targeted Marketing | Adweek ... ( http://bit.ly/1G318ab )
mircea_popescu: ;;google how i trolled my imbecile roommate by custom tailoring the ads facebook showed him (nevermind what either having roommates or hanging out with imbeciles says about me).
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2014 20:43:36; ThickAsThieves: facebook ads are the worst performance of like all options, other than for some very specific uses
mircea_popescu: Namworld: uh... Facebook ads system numbers are dodgy <<< welcome to the club ? fb is a scam. this has been said here i dunno how many times, but by pretty much everyone ever involved.
mircea_popescu: bwahaha. MEAT TONIGHT!
mircea_popescu: cazalla: back to ddosing websites by the looks of it << did it only last 5 minutes or do i liek magically not see it again
Namworld: uh... Facebook ads system numbers are dodgy... I got a 35% click through rate. What kind of ads get a 35% click through rate? 1 click for 3 impressions.
assbot: Safety, liveness and fault tolerance—the consensus choices | Stellar ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2ZyFf )
mats_cd03: im not talking about the chart
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.46, Best ask: 375.62, Bid-ask spread: 1.16000, Last trade: 375.62, 24 hour volume: 5384.28194357, 24 hour low: 370.25, 24 hour high: 377.89, 24 hour vwap: 374.00473742
cazalla: another guy has team viewer installed on same machine as wallet and loses 40 btc lol https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2og50r/im_devastated_got_hacked_and_lost_405_btcs_please/
punkman: trilema down too
undata: over here too
cazalla: back to ddosing websites by the looks of it
mircea_popescu: and with that i wish you a merry christmas!
gernika: The world doesn't work like that here.
mircea_popescu: (in the civilised sense of that term, not the usian sense of it0
mircea_popescu: i thought it's the world's most popular fast food dish
gernika: I agree - a german burrito seemed unappealing just as a concept, let alone as something concrete made out of that run down kitchen, but apparently at the time I thought that was my best option.
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which, the doner in germany surpasses the doner in turkey i hear)
mircea_popescu: german burrito ? that's a thought.
gernika: I had a burrito there. It was not a great burrito. The interior was quite drab.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's not time-invariant.
mircea_popescu: prev heard good things of it which is why i asked.
gernika: mircea_popescu actually yes, that looks familiar
mircea_popescu: undata sure, except for the obnoxious "prevailin business practices" bit.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ilkka kokkarinen) << there is some merit to the ford story, but specifically, that he majorily cut down on staff turnover by "overpaying". except all the other idiots were not accounting for training costs (in the form of, not building anything too complex)
undata: you know where they're at
mircea_popescu: just like if fat women were erased from the world you'd notice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ? <<< if node.js were erased you would notice.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> honouring the 'lifetime warranty' for all the chumps put together - would this even add up to the cost of one lawyer-week ? << it makes no sense to me either.
gernika: mircea_popescu I have not heard of Room77 - google tells me it's some sort of hotel site.
mircea_popescu: gernika this wouldn't be something called Room77 ?
undata: several generations of Americans at least believe that this is precisely what success looks like: you buy and sell a few houses and your life is on autopilot from then on
assbot: Robert Kiyosaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5Yuyd )
undata: decimation | really, it's all just an extension of the lowly spammers desire to make money while he sleeps << cheap credit spawned a generation of these
asciilifeform: nor the pseudo-industry it was part of
asciilifeform: it was never anything else to begin with
asciilifeform: briefly back to the earlier thread: no one should be surprised if a thing like 'joyent' turns into a vehicle for some imbecile's masturbatory 'justice' fantasies
gernika: Whatever scheme they came up with inevitably ran out of steam after at most a few years.
gernika: And at the same time calling it passive income.
gernika: Exactly. I slept very little while I was trying to follow their recipe.
asciilifeform: a spammer is ridiculous not because he wishes to make money while sleeping, but because he is willing to work an 18 hour day to do it.
gernika: Man. I used to subscribe to this forum called the Micropreneuer academy. I see now that this was exactly their propsal: spam to make money while you sleep.
decimation: really, it's all just an extension of the lowly spammers desire to make money while he sleeps