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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mike_c: sure. <<< tis melting like april snow, the case.
Apocalyptic: and probably not that qualified as well, i'm no programmer in any sense, much less a C++ guru
mod6: <+ascii_modem> bdb begs for the axe << yes. it's awful.
mod6: if you still don't have any spare time, we'll figure out something.
mod6: no sweat. we're not quite at that point anyway. as I was eluding to in the Address & ToDo, I'll update #b-a at some point during the month after we get this other leak sorted.
Apocalyptic: noted, I don't have that much free time at the moment
mod6: we appreciate any and all help on this endeavor
mod6: feel free to hit either ben_vulpes or me anytime if you wanna collaborate on that.
Apocalyptic: actually after reading the relevant code there is some logic related to the mempool, so it may be worth some tests indeed
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the project does need more resources. if you feel like reading and submitting the thing, signed, jurov's keeping the list and erryone'd be moar than happy.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic in theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
mod6: let him know that he's about to send a 40 BTC tx fee. there are improvments that can be made perhaps
mod6: so, well, i dunno, i guess "works as designed" or something, but a least do the guy a favor of a reach-around
mod6: yeah, but i just read too that if you don't set your change outputs, you'll end up sending like a huge tx fee.
Apocalyptic: so you meant to test such trivial things as parsings ?
Apocalyptic: in the sense it doesn't really check anything wallet related or something, it's supposed to just parse your JSON and send it to nodes
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> or for that matter at all tested. // not sure there is something to be really tested
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i think the main issue is he wont be able to take credit. << omfg the slanders.
mod6: of course, as always, we welcome any help that anyone wants to give to achieve these goals.
mod6: i'll stay the course on v0.5.3 and what we set out to do in january. will revisit this later in the month as was the plan anyway.
mod6: fair enough. perhaps this is not quite the urgent matter that I thought it might have been.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it is somewhat used. not that widely. then again, linuxkernel is widely used. so what of it.
mircea_popescu: decimation: freenode seems to attract folks like mr. spam << has 0 to do with freenode. everything sweet attracts gnats.
mod6: it may not be. i had a feeling that it is widely used for some reason.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter at all tested.
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't even know that the raw transaction power ranger implementation was ever read by anyone.
mod6: i might just be dumb though. eheheh.
mod6: probably not. i was just hoping to grab that stuff, and get it back-ported quickly.
mircea_popescu: mod6 at some point the code transforms an user indicated tx into an actual tx.
mod6: spent, probably a total of 16 hours on it. didn't get very far. and seeing as though the raw transactions api is 4 versions beyond (or something) v0.6.0, it might be very hard to do it that way.
mircea_popescu: and since the fiat world mostl yexists as a staging scene for various social engineering attacks, from preet bharara onwards, this isn't a good design.
mircea_popescu: moreover, if there's a central repository of the log that's also an exclusive repository of the log, the incentive for nefarious idiots a la ninjashogun to attack it via social engineering increases
mod6: when trying to back port something i thought would be as simple as import/dump private keys, it turned out that the changes were indeed far reaching in the code.
mod6: well, that maybe have been a poor choice of words.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: the observation that, on account of the log existing, we don't need human idlers for anything at all, was correct << at the very least they provide a passive certification of the log.
mircea_popescu: mod6 why exactly wouldn't be there be an easy way to simply insert raw txn ?
mircea_popescu: the disposing of drooling idiots is an unrelated matter, and if pursued at all should not be pursued in the heat of fake emergencies.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: honestly im not sure whats worse, autoddos or autoban. << i really don't see much incentive to do anything at this point. i mean, the ddos guy was moreover useful, for as long as he kept iot up. i didn't think he's reliable, and he proved that much,so.. whatevs.
PeterL: ;;later tell pete_dushenski hmm, your blog is on scoopbot's list, I am not sure why it is not shoing up, I will look into it
mod6: I'm not sure there is any easy way to back-port the raw tx api
mod6: currently, the plan is to attempt to fix the leak that causes the R.I. to crash during full block sync. but we might end up rolling forward to version .7 and having to re-implement the 7 patches we currently have.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: registered << same easy spamatron << moar horribru, now you're giving positive incentive to create unused accounts.
mod6: ok. just wanted to make sure I understood :)
mod6: (bullet point 4): fix behavior where blocks are downloaded from a single peer (what is the desired behavior here? - should be pretty much ripped off from SotA torrent trackers.)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it won't do anything for the case at hand, because well... dude can just get in the wot, what's the big deal.
mircea_popescu: lowers load on freenode, and if they're actually concerned there's whatever skullduggery going on they can just get into teh wot.
mod6: ok, i haven't looked into the part yet where it has been somehow spotted that the blocks seems to get pulled from one peer, instead of many. if p2p seeds refers to a way to get blocks in more of a torrent fashion, i agree.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i think the least damaging way is to kick nicks that are idle sing sing-on. asciilifeform: wanna idle for >5 min, get in wot. << yeah. i can see this, especially as people who wish to simply read logs can just as well read the webpage.
mircea_popescu: yes, that.
mircea_popescu: sounds more like a trim, for the toolbox
mircea_popescu: mod6 i've been thinking about it, not entirely sure it actually belongs in the core.
mod6: <+ascii_modem> speaking of - iirc it was gonna be configable chkpoints , not none at all ? << i guess i wasn't aware of the 'configurable' part, just was going by the todo list: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/0.5.3-todos
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'amplification' idiocy is trivially tested for, and any isp which doesn't yank the offending lusers ought by all rights to be killed upstream << pretty much this, yes.
mod6: <+ascii_modem> neh he snipped whole thing << yeah.
mod6: so now it keeps the BDB TX logs down to < 1Mb each, and I've never seen more than 60 of them in the ~/.bitcoin/database/ dir before being flushed out
mircea_popescu: Adlai: so paycoin has progressed from vaporware to real, nitrogen-rich altcoincrap? << no, but some derp who feels rich on the cash value a car monthy payment somehow figured he has something to say.
mod6: then after working on different things for a while, and looking at what is currently set in HEAD, went on to trim that shit out
ascii_modem: whole thing leaks like sieve
mod6: at first, I just set max locks to 40000, and nothing else, but ended up with liek 265Gb of BDB Tx logs
ascii_modem: in my tests, bled out 100% of the time during sync
mod6: set set_lg_max to 1M
mod6: changed dbenv.set_lk_max_locks to 40000
mod6: changed dbenv.set_lk_max_objects to 40000
mircea_popescu: there's technically no possibility to have "no checkpoints", block 1 will willy-nilly be a checkpoint.
ascii_modem: neh he snipped whole thing
ascii_modem: bdb begs for the axe
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem i just assumed he implemented the "no checkpoints" in the shape of a "set your own, defaults to 1" sort of thing
mod6: for the DB?
mircea_popescu: so what config did you settle on in the end mod6 ?
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2014 22:10:34; mod6: But yeah, it's still has some leaks in there somewhere, as the R.I. died at least 2 different times from 1->current block, but no more than 3 times. Eitherway, this needs to get resolved. But at least we're headed in the right direction.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I have a ton of cool photos from that adventure << you need to start blogging in serious.
mircea_popescu: 'cept the perky titted little bitch started feminism and was banished to fatlandia.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so for a time, God did permit a man to have more than one wife. (see, for eg. Genesis 4:19; 16:1-4; 29:18-30:24) - but God did not originate the practice of polygamy. He provided only one wife for Adam. <<< bs. the original family was adam eve an' lilith.
mircea_popescu: jurov: you want to say homosexuality is okay if it's master/slave relationship? << win. get into leather while you still can!
mircea_popescu: jurov: nothing about fags? danielpbarron: that's condemned <<< poor j, just can't catch a break.
mircea_popescu: equality is not something of this, or any other world.
decimation: re: democracy << "Now I know of only two methods of establishing equality in the political world; every citizen must be put in possession of his rights, or rights must be granted to no one." - M. de Tocqueville
mircea_popescu: assbot: Will Ripple Eclipse Bitcoin? - Slashdot ... << "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
mircea_popescu: jurov: lmao it says there was 1 x.idiff.dec traded on 2012-12-13 and nothing since << sounds about right.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's gonna be an announcement re x.idiff
mircea_popescu: jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu x.idiff.dec expired < myeah.
decimation: I think TI still makes stuff like the msp430
ascii_modem: microcontroller << the pickings end up very slim if refuse 'arm'
mircea_popescu: democracy = one solution that sucks for everyone.
decimation: one can buy very low power microcontrollers these days
ascii_modem: that's roughly the situation of modern cpu
ascii_modem: battery time / mips or flops << imagine if the only fuel available, were - trotyl.
decimation: how Potapov got off so easily, with only 'ten and five on the horns'."
decimation: re: tank's top < " That was Stalin's hall-mark, his style - that splendid disregard of differences, that levelling of friends and enemies that made him a unique figure in the whole of human history. Another thing for which the Soviet court did not condemn Potapov was that in 1945 - still in his broken spectacles tied with string but this time with a tommy-gun in his hand - he rode into Berlin on the back of a Red Army tank; this was
undata: I had a pentium 3 thinkpad that was a tank compared
decimation: lenovo is supposedly better for that stuff
undata: trackpad stopped working, goes to sleep, fails to wake without disconnecting the battery, etc
undata: I'm trying to code on a shit-tier lenovo "x1 carbon"
undata: the vaguely defined dream would be to have something which functions as a terminal, nothing more
undata: not much to find
undata: ascii_modem: I spent a bit of time today researching e-ink displays
mircea_popescu: where chicks come with their tank tops to sit atop your tank's top and take their tops off
ascii_modem: esp those
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Obligatory slogan: "Come and get Tanked!" << better yet, "tank top off tuesday"
ascii_modem: and i can see the chop.