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BingoBoingo: Birdman: It depends on the wording of the particular bet
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb :: 22.05 B (80%) on Yes, 5.38 B (20%) on No | closing in 1 week 16 hours | weight: 50`420 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1yaoRFc )
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-feb/#b5 << looks like P5 made that to me
artifexd: Oh. I thought you were discussing a bet about mpif.
Elian11: yawwwns, Sun has risen over the Aegean again. i continue my trip
artifexd: what bet are you talking about?
mircea_popescu: o look at that, mpif is 99/1 on no too.
mircea_popescu: course... it could go under in the 16 hours atop a week...
dub: I thought s/refunded/donated/
punkman: won't those bets just get refunded due to buffer clause?
cazalla: i took no for a few bit cents, c'mon no whammy!
[]bot: Bet placed: 8.8 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.43877896 BTC. Current weight: 50,464.
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.43877896 BTC. Current weight: 50,464.
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.43877896 BTC. Current weight: 50,465.
mircea_popescu: so is reddit generally pleasing with the gavinesque attack on bitcoin or we're not seeing the matter for the shit between eyes ?
Elian11: DAMMMMMN 206? Im moving to Africa
artifexd: Imma be pissed if it drops below 200 before the next block confirms
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb :: 6.25 B (54%) on Yes, 5.38 B (46%) on No | closing in 1 week 17 hours | weight: 50`499 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1wYfnXD )
mircea_popescu: look at that, exchanges holding on for dear life over 200
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.51, Best ask: 206.65, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 206.77, 24 hour volume: 56651.01119185, 24 hour low: 203.0, 24 hour high: 250.01, 24 hour vwap: 228.336912025
mircea_popescu: i had honestly thought they were making dumb polack jokes.
mircea_popescu: hm, lisa kudrow is not actually polish. that show's got nothing now ;/
mircea_popescu: prolly the funniest thing in spanish is that "successful" is "exitoso/a".
Elian11: ^ yes thats what i write
mircea_popescu: what are you, the polish chick in Friends ?
mircea_popescu: your favourite song is michale jackson's man in the mirror ?!
Elian11: It's my fav. song. And, i think that more people understanding is a good thing
assbot: Re: Why lisp failed in the marketplace - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1yakU3c )
Elian11: You know that song by Michael Jackson, Man in the Mirror
Elian11: I mean up, as in: level up their skills.
mircea_popescu: course a klm flight with a large russian hat atop the cockpit would be kinda funny to look at.
mircea_popescu: airplanes don't, generally, want clothes. and passengers are invited to play dress-up at home, on their blogs with css and whatever.
mircea_popescu: Elian11 helping people up does not consist of encouraging passengers to bring their own clothes for the airplane.
Elian11: Whats the point if you are not going to help people up?
ben_vulpes: Elian11: i envision a future where journeymen write their own bitcoin implementations
asciilifeform: 'would open up development to a lot of coders' << why would anyone wish this to happen ?
Elian11: reading scroll back :IMO a pure Python Bitcoin client would open up development to a lot of coders
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aren't medical blogs the best.
mircea_popescu is tempted to hire the man.
mircea_popescu: ar disorder with psychosis, it is difficult for him to follow any sort of treatment plan."
mircea_popescu: "Mr. [Patient] is a 39 year old gentleman who sustained several anterior dislocations of his right shoulder when he was involved in martial arts as part of an underground fighting group. He did not seek treatment for these and the problem worsened after he lifted heavy weights while in prison. He presents today with his caretaker, who states that because of his impulsive and self-destructive behavior secondary to bipol
mircea_popescu: eh it's not how it works, unless fella's a little broken in the head.
asciilifeform: not a titanic work of literature, but relevant. fella goes mad on account of getting locked up for a while with naught but a chess book.
mircea_popescu: im not a great fan of... whatever the fuck that was, german lumpenmodernism
assbot: The Royal Game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1yaikdG )
artifexd: <ben_vulpes> so that's two exported versions of the same function that are "polymorphic" as i understand the term on argument types? << The proper term is "overloaded"
assbot: A Cartoon Guide to Becoming a Doctor: Dr. Orthochick: Upscale ... ( http://bit.ly/1yaii5w )
mircea_popescu: (and yes ftr /me is nonplussed with the idiotic idea of ambiguously calling everythning "plus". it creates the sort of idiots that imagines they can do statistics work because they can add integers on their fingers)
asciilifeform: or wait, i think that one's out already
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're not going to die man. at the very most, you'll be set in a room for 30 years' stretch. at a time where you're old enough to not really miss women so much anymore, and old enough to really appreciate the stability of 3 regular, predictable meals a day.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there are other, i think, similar proggies
ben_vulpes can't hear anything over the sound of brain fabric ripping
mircea_popescu smiles at the original premise of the entire foss movement rebirthed. "by working on intelligent tasks with intelligent people you become more intelligent yourself. this is more important than money"
ben_vulpes: "Without such a tool you often end up greping through dozens or even hundreds of files." << yeah exactly. EXACTLY.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as (i think) i told jurov & co., it is my intention to eventually write this book. if live long enough.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that book doesn't exist because o'reilly didn't publish it.
assbot: Commentary on the Sixth Edition UNIX Operating System ... ( http://bit.ly/1wY9PN1 )
ben_vulpes: okay i guess i'm not getting anything done on the cpp for a few days while i get up to speed on ebrowse
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specifically in the style of the 'lions book'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for example, it will become possible to write a book about how the damn thing works.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to misguided efforts at "let's bloat everything with more of the same stupid"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ever tried http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/ebrowse.html ?
asciilifeform: and was already an accomplished hater of the language.
ben_vulpes will now have to shelve and reserve Siebel for late night palate cleanser
asciilifeform once fed 'lippman' to pet. it turned out that she had been fed it already as a child
ben_vulpes is still hung on the CKeyStore coercion
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you probably already own b. stroustrup, but for n00bs i like to give s. lippman's 'primer'
ben_vulpes: my problem with the bitcoin codebase is not cpp (that's just another language), but the insane class hierarchies i have to hold in my head
ben_vulpes: no, i understand the this pointer. what i'm failing to understand is how the reference to the object from which SignSignature is called can in any way be coerced to a CKeyStore
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is new to cpp ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in cpp, 'this' points to current object.
ben_vulpes: i'm still not understanding how the *this argument (which looks like a bool?!) is turning into a CKeyStore
mircea_popescu: export a differently defined prototype of thje same function same name
mircea_popescu: i apparently understsnd even less of coding than i had thought.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, that's the current version
mircea_popescu: why would anyone want to do this
asciilifeform: i may have linked to the current turd instead of 0.5.3
ben_vulpes: so that's two exported versions of the same function that are "polymorphic" as i understand the term on argument types?
asciilifeform: as far as cppisms go, this is nothing at all.
ben_vulpes: okay cool well i guess that makes sense
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me this is pretty horribru programming.
mircea_popescu: are the first 2 defaults ?
ben_vulpes: the first of which doesn't even seem to be a keystore
ben_vulpes: this is probably me not grokking c. how does the function with a signature of like 6 args get called legitimately with 4?
ben_vulpes: how is this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L1003) a legit use of this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/script.cpp#L1163)
ben_vulpes: different topic y'all
mircea_popescu: was that rubber ?
mod6: suckstarter will be the new facebook for broke hoz
asciilifeform long awaits 'suckstarter', successor to 'kickstarter'
mircea_popescu: make sure you're transparent.
ben_vulpes: quickly i must kickstart this
ben_vulpes: no wai emojiterm is the missing piece of wimminz in tech
mircea_popescu is waiting for terminal 2.0, extended with css instead of language.
asciilifeform confesses that he has never written, or used, an extension for a terminal
ben_vulpes: also explains why soooo many terminal programs are extensible with you know "perl, and maybe some other languages if you absolutely must"
mod6: i dunno, i like it. it's built around lexigraphical parsing and list processing. i've gotten comfortable in there over the years.
ben_vulpes: explains why so many sages under whom i've labored have been all about the perl
asciilifeform: not mentioned for the same reason sky being blue is rarely mentioned - abundantly clear that an atrocity like perl had to offer a mega-win to catch on (and it did genuinely, organically catch on)
mod6: left my memorzation of all the nuances of the shells in the past
mircea_popescu: yeah this is strangely never mentioned