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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that -is- cleaning.
mircea_popescu: a decade or two of that should put the country on pretty decent footing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't clean it, i'd just host impalement orgies for kidnapped daughters of the "elite" doing whatever women's studies bullshit in college.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the definition of an expert is, fundamentally, "one whose judgements are not based on his own circumstance".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember that ruin you showed me in Timis? asked 'what does it cost', and you said 'you can buy but city hall'll make you clean it'
mircea_popescu: odd how this "experts agree" thing works.
mircea_popescu: but somehow it's not now the case that *I* should waltz in washington and buy the monument for a few bitcents.
asciilifeform: 'financial discipline' was the imf standard pill for all of eastern europe all through the 90s << it meant, simply, 'privatization' by usg shills.
danielpbarron: i remember simcity on snes where you had to intentionally get taxed into negative to get the money value to wrap around to 999`999
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: yea but we don't pay our civil engineers nearly enough, or allocated enough money to design to warrant good roads in this country at least.
asciilifeform: the traffic-obeying-impedence and other fluid dynamics laws has been known for ages.
thestringpuller: type "FUNDS" several hundred times
thestringpuller: ^- this is essentially simulated in older versions of sim city
mircea_popescu: but somehow it's NOT what the us has to do, once the us turned into a cold war ghetto.
mircea_popescu: eerilie reminiscent of how "financial discipline" was the imf standard pill for all of eastern europe all through the 90s
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notice the very convenient "uilding Bigger Roads Actually Makes Traffic Worse" just on the tail end of two decades of "we can't actually afford to build anything anymore" and as "we can't really even maintain what we got" sets in.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: in real life, the jams begin immediately after the road is widened. because impedence mismatch, elementary. nothing to do with the population around the road, on that timescale.
mircea_popescu: jurov all trade.
jurov: world trade incl forex ?
thestringpuller: well guess what the buildings nearby the roads upgrade too
thestringpuller: So you upgrade the roads
mircea_popescu: jurov not possible huh ? compare M3 to world trade figures.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Interesting comparison in SimCity. So you plan roads all willy nilly. I like curves yay! Etc. anyhow. traffic starts building up cause your shit ain't planned well.
mircea_popescu: as this carries on eventuyally fees will exceed block rewards sometime that decade.
mircea_popescu: i would suspect once we've beheaed gavin for things to proceed apace and by 2020 or so to have a more reasonable 50 to 100k move daily, of which that 1% is then maybe 50 btc a day.
jurov: i dunno if it's possible for the volume to be magnitudes more
mircea_popescu: is not the be all-end all to judge things on.
mircea_popescu: jurov the current situationb isn
asciilifeform: bigger roads.. traffic worse << impedence mismatch. see also example, 'belady's anomaly', in computing/electronics
jurov: would stay much less than mining reward this century
mircea_popescu: currently tx fees are in the range of 0.000000001% to 0.001%. they will increase, yes. degrees of magnitude, yes. past 1% as an average is unlikely, because alternatives will become lucrative enough. such as you know, people would stop "tipping" etc.
jurov: tx fees will certainly end up higher than now, but how much?
mircea_popescu: well just don't make it scale down bvy the same formula
jurov: let's say blocksize is allowed to go up by 10% if > 10% of volume are tx fees in past 2016 blocks (same as difficulty)
mircea_popescu: incredible what a thing that forum is.
mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/TkRbrHp.png da fuck is that ?!
mircea_popescu: jurov make an actual model and i can show you numerically how feasible it is. or otherwise, estimatively, it'd cost about 1 btc to make the blocks any arbitrary size.
assbot: What's Up With That: Building Bigger Roads Actually Makes Traffic Worse | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1GqPwkV )
jurov: *shrug* i can see miners fixing thousands of bitcoins in attempt to raise blocksize, but how feasible scenraion it is, dunno
Apocalyptic: well the newly minted coins and the fees are in the same output
jurov: the tx fees go together with newly minted coins afaik
mircea_popescu: 120 ? is that just for newly minted coins or fees too ?
jurov: and you wouldn't be able to spend the 1k again in 100 blocks
mircea_popescu: uh, you want a per tx% ? i thought you just wanted per block aggregate.
mircea_popescu: not clear why only once in 100, but granted that, 10 btc in fees per block on average is like what, 1mn% more than now ?
jurov: to avoid then lowering the %
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't get your logic. why can't i use external tx fees ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: you would be able to do it only every 100 blocks and since you wouldn't then use external tx fees, rather unprofitable
mircea_popescu: "If anyone reading this believes that a man whose time is worth THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS AN HOUR is going to pick up a chisel for $18/hr, stop reading RIGHT NOW and kill yourself." << i have personally fucked women whose time was actually that sort of money. i bought lunch.
BingoBoingo: I mean someone is going to have to vouch you aren't a shithead to get an apprenticeship
mircea_popescu: i guess that leaves bagging groceries.
mircea_popescu: "fifty eight men join plumbing school as the notion they will ever be hired to do anything with computers is laughable"
mircea_popescu: what happened to "verizon fired its entire security staff, hired hacker to form a new team" ?
mircea_popescu: "The app hacker quietly reported the holes to Verizon which issued a fix Friday, two days after it was disclosed, and rewarded Westergren with a year's worth of free internet." << heh, bad deal.
mircea_popescu: block i publish. the tx however, i don't broadcast.
mircea_popescu: i can do it probably ten times in 10k blocks with very little costs.
jurov: what would you gain? to count you'd have to publish the block anyway so that it isn't orphaned
mircea_popescu: "XDA senior software developer Randy Westergren said the FiOS API flaw since fixed allowed any account to be accessed by manipulating user identification numbers in web requests." shit sherlock.
assbot: Verizon sprints to crush FiOS account exposure hole • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1GqLzwu )
jurov: like difficulty.. i meant is only as illustration as opposed to diddling magic numbers
mircea_popescu: miner makes a block out of tx with huge fees that he doesn't broadcast. if it goes in, it's in. if not, no loss.
mircea_popescu: jurov you realise how easy this is to game ?
jurov: i'm surprised gavin isn't considering rule like "allow for blocksize increase if tx fees bigger than some % of coinbase"
Apocalyptic: jurov, well reddit wants moon, I guess they got it
jurov: in past i was arguing in favor of increasing the limit, too.. but no such madness
mircea_popescu: jurov no, not really. just in the parallel universe where usg matters.
mod6: thestringpuller: they were right, except they didn't figure in fed[ctrl+p]
thestringpuller: so I've been doing that
ben_vulpes: apple pay's going to try to gobble all the banks, so if my bank's truthful about it being apple's fault, i'll just end up with the same problem.
thestringpuller: and not trust banks
thestringpuller: my grandparents told me to put money under mattress
mircea_popescu: i mean, go rape a toddler instead. better off for society.
ben_vulpes: well hey here's another fun thing
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you can continue with that bank.
mircea_popescu: because people were so petrified they might lose a set.
ben_vulpes: if their banks are using the thing
mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly, it includes their mugs. unsurprisingly, anyone ever involved ended up with copies,
mircea_popescu: pron thing, the usians came up with this idiotic law that you must make so and so footage of models.
mircea_popescu: does this mean i can log into all the girl's accounts now ?
mircea_popescu: so wait. i have a humongous library of 2257 notices. prolly tens of k's.
ben_vulpes: and i can't figure out how to turn it off
ben_vulpes: apple refuses to say anything
thestringpuller: no need to cut figners off anymore
thestringpuller: fingerprint scanners are the same thing
mircea_popescu: they didn't as much as put a glare cutoff in there ?!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wait. you played his phone to your phone and it took ?!
nubbins`: if someone could social engineer that shit, they deserve whatever they find
ben_vulpes: i'll give it mebbe a week and then release the video
nubbins`: do you know it was the most goddamn inconvenient thing in the world to get reset?
nubbins`: so i lost my username and password for the CRA website (canadian IRS)
ben_vulpes: anyways i tried to do the responsible disclosure thing
ben_vulpes: bank claims that this feature is being crammed down their throats by apple for apple pay
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is insanity ?!
ben_vulpes: i recorded a video of my face on biz_partners phone, and played it for the facial recognition shit
mircea_popescu: nubbins` maybe help the idiot kids make a proper gpg contract? that shit's a sore eye by now
nubbins`: i was gonna try selling some of our bird books on the forum, but i guess i'll probably let things cool off for a bit
mircea_popescu: it's worse than that. it means... uh... hm.
nubbins`: mp does this mean pasc is a lesbo?
nubbins`: hanbot, i indulge too infrequently ;(
mircea_popescu: nubbins` prepare to be famous. i hear you're really a woman ?