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mod6: but, this is 10% of the memory i'm used to runing with
mircea_popescu: or that.
mircea_popescu: i think it's more in the 230k ish range that there's some large reorgs
mats: hmm...added to my toy wish list
mircea_popescu: still have to unpucker the cock enough for as much as a dribble to come out
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes:dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/winklevoss-twins-aim << yeah yeah, they've been aiming at the toilet for three years now.
asciilifeform: https://www.exploitee.rs/index.php/PogoPlug_Mobile << unit in photo is the ~$12 version sans sata
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: jurov, ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu - if one of you presently has a 0.5.3.x in a vm, try running under hard constraint of 128 or 256m. see when croaks. << it doesn't croak if it has the blockchain prebuilt, that part's for sure.
mod6: basically; patches include so far, your patches, ben's rm UPNP & the bdb config update patches.
mod6: asciilifeform: irc stuff is still in there.
mod6: here's a script that will build everything without the rm_checkpoints patch, with exception to the version number update:
asciilifeform: ditto for the irc mechanism (is that still in 0.5.3 ?)
asciilifeform: right now there are, iirc, hardcoded - and possibly phoundation-subvertable - seeds.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6: one patch that probably needs to happen in time for the 'fork war' is manual seed config.
mod6: and so should you. I'll be tabling that, updating the "Patch guide" and pulling the tarball with that patch down from the website as soon as my other vm hits current block.
mod6: in my most recent regression tests ( this past week, i've been leaving out the rm_checkpoints patch )
mod6: cool. in this case, im running v0.5.3[base]+patches{1,rm_rf_upnp,2,3,4,6(db_config),unreleased-version-update-patch}
ben_vulpes: now there's an interesting notion
asciilifeform: mod6: i picked up the sata-enabled 'pogo', will devote an hour or two to giving it a shot this weekend.
mod6: it would be neat-o to see this run on some sort of commercial router with a large flash-rom in there.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu posed a question re: what might be the cheapest reasonably-compact machine that will run 0.5.3.
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely up to date on the thread, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes: as i understand, if the hypothetical node has a working oomkill mechanism, it will - mostly - run without intervention
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mod6: up to 68,xxx blocks....
mod6: i'll put it on the list here...
asciilifeform: jurov, ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu - if one of you presently has a 0.5.3.x in a vm, try running under hard constraint of 128 or 256m. see when croaks.
asciilifeform: again, i have not tried these machines.
asciilifeform: jurov: their 'p22' appears to ship with 256m. ~25 usd.
jurov: amazon sells them between $20-$60 depending on version
asciilifeform: for, iirc, the same cost.
asciilifeform: 128m promises to be tight, to say the least, with current 0.5.3.x
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jurov: rumor has it that it has even slower i/o
asciilifeform: jurov: not certain, as i've not tested it. but rpi had an uncommonly slow usb controller.
jurov: it's faster than rpi?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: one can buy the gadget without subscribing to the idiocy
asciilifeform: let the morons pay.
asciilifeform: so far, as i understand, the hardware is a loss-leader.
asciilifeform: a year if you buy their idiot chumpcloud thing
asciilifeform: 'pogoplug' may actually be the cheapest linux box presently sold.
gribble: namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 5 days, 5 hours, 42 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <Namworld> That's 888poker
jurov: btw what about odroid? or it's turd?
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, nothing in particular, just want to play with a board having a powerful CPU
Apocalyptic: alright, from what I got so far the ODROID-U2 looks decent, with a Cortex-A9 though
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, out of these thousands boards to chose from, know any that features a Cortex-A57 CPU ?
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asciilifeform: http://wiki.openwrt.org/_detail/media/mlw221-02.jpg?id=toh%3Akingston%3Amlw221 << instead of shielding the wireless card, as traditional...
mircea_popescu: chewing tits is my bet.
asciilifeform: the 'verbatim' appears to be available in massive qty. 802.11+gb eth.
decimation: asciilifeform: there's a guide for booting 'edgerouter lite' with gentoo https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3
asciilifeform: it also appears to be out of production. but i distinctly recall seeing similar gadgets advertised.
asciilifeform: 'wistor' schematics << chinese have not posted them, it seems, in the usual places. yet.
PeterL: oh, that was me restarting it again, be back up in a sec
mircea_popescu: lol that was long lasted
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: often, they are not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends whether the address lines are all brought out on the pcb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how hard is to field-upgrade these rams ?
asciilifeform: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/easyacc/wizard8800?s[]=mips << almost the idea, imho, physical embodiment for a node; but the hero who can stuff node into 32m is not yet born
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/98205cc2e0379b675c31617e77233033/tumblr_ng38y4I2Li1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg there you go mod6
mats: jurov:it's more about acquiring useful muscle memory bits << kung fu is not a system of fighting, its a system of thought. you must outthink your opponent, whatever form he takes... because some of them will be more than just men.
mod6: awesome pics today :)
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski tba
PeterL: well, thank me once it works ;)
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu 3 more or 3 total ?
mod6: well, i could be wrong. i just saw a thing where they were telling some guy running a way forward version that he should add more swap or some such nonsense. but yeah... so it's been in there for a while.
PeterL: pete_dushenski I tried to put in a fix to scoopbot, he should respond to your blog now, let me know the next time you post something
mircea_popescu: !s trezor
infobel: any thoughts on Trezor anybody?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla a the x may be it.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu your article's title had me hoping for a deeper explanation into 'oficialismo' ...
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i cant run .7 for more than a day on system x, runs .8 endlessly
mod6: yeah, i've read on place that they have this leakyness -- crashing problem all the way up to .9
mod6: a few days ago, I had been looking mapOrphanBlocks as a possible reason that it runs itself out of ram as this structure goes unchecked in size in v0.5.3 -- when I was at ~180,000 blocks, these are the stats that I had built up so far:
mircea_popescu: mats prolly something like that.
mats: re: router discussion, seems to me the obv solution is an OpenWrt 'package'
nubbins`: kakobrekla let's see the diffs :D
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu> did jack. < no leak in newer version, so they actually fixed it
mircea_popescu: not before. power fuckers had ~5 years to do it.
nubbins`: your handy pocket node is already there
nubbins`: then eventually when the real bitcoin core fixes the current memory leaks
mircea_popescu: when i said "it'll run" i meant smething like that.
kakobrekla: nubbins` thats what i did.
nubbins`: fuck, kill and restart bitcoind on a timer
undata: pile up on itself when the previous cron hadn't finished munging graphs
nubbins`: so maybe not design the device around the memory leak
undata: hah, I had munin on a micro and it'd help take down the instance
nubbins`: the inexorable consumption thereof is the issue
nubbins`: the amount of ram isn't really the issue
kakobrekla: recall the munin charts i posted
mod6: ive got a separate vm that has 1Gb of ram and it runs for about a 18-20 hours before it runs out of ram.
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/la-republica-argelina-democratica-y-popular/
mircea_popescu: i dun think so. 256mb will prolly do it, if slowly.
undata: http://beagleboard.org/black << cool that it has internal storage; it could ship with OS
pete_dushenski: that's a funny nickname then
mircea_popescu: or that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cheapest means of getting a unit with arbitrarily expandable storage is to pick one with usb lines
mike_c: i want to say namworld, but not sure
pete_dushenski: mike_c you aren't the other partner are you?
pete_dushenski: a well til