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nubbins`: at least tuck it into your fuckin shirt.
midnightmagic: yeah that part was funny
nubbins`: how many tards are reading that and saying "sucks he lost his tresor!!!!" instead of "what the fuck, the cops siezed a voice recorder?!"
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nubbins`: i can't even keep track of what casascius coins i have right now
mircea_popescu: (numbers entirely arbitrary, hafta look at actual code to get actual numbers)
mircea_popescu: ie, if the network thinks block 2 is mined at 12:00, and your clock thinks it's 17:55, and then block three is, according to the network, mined at 12:11 but your clock thinks it's 18:22 you'll have a problem.
mircea_popescu: basically the bitcoin requirement is that your time is within ~10% ish of itself. so you can travel at up to 30Mm/sec.
mircea_popescu: decimation no, the ability to keep time within about a minute of what your previous idea of time was when the previous block was mined.
asciilifeform out to meatspace for a spell
decimation: so the ability to run a clock within 1 min of other nodes worldwide is an implied requirement (or finding someone nearby with the same)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, et al : these boxes won't be ready for battlefield until seeding patch.
asciilifeform: if only so that 'pogo' node can be pointed to it.
asciilifeform: i was actually going to suggest that ben_vulpes et. al. run an ntp server.
decimation: is time completely ignored in all the 'orphan' algorithms?
mircea_popescu: decimation actually that tracing is why bitcin was designed so time isn't a concern
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=668 << see photograph in this article
decimation: via the 'gps' system
decimation: time is a concern for bitcoin, and I suspect that 99% of your 'ntp' servers trace back to usg
decimation: indeed. or provisions for an external clock that has the same
mircea_popescu: basically they're running 1985 chinese wristwatches
decimation: right, but usually the oscillator is a shitty plain quartz without temperature compensation
asciilifeform: decimation: and you still need an oscillator, given as the tick counter in cpu (x86-64 has one, but it is not a universal) can stop during low-power modes
decimation: the naming of time is a social phenomenon
decimation: better to have the money spent on upgrading the oscillator that drives the cpu, so that accurate time can be kept in the short-run
asciilifeform: decimation: not entirely pointless, as poorly written os assumes a notion of local time before network bringup
decimation: re: clocks in computers << yes, the "RTC" chip with its shitty lithium battery and low-quality quartz is pointless
mircea_popescu: the hound too houndy for your taste ?
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7vlhQ22u1qejludo1_1280.jpg << on their arms and knees.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: also I suspect the 'productive' who didn't like living next to ru have already left. << quite.
pete_dushenski reflects on distinctly pro-russian, pro-intellectual veins coursing through his ukrainian ancestry
asciilifeform: decimation: there are only so many cabs in new york to drive.
decimation: asciilifeform: also I suspect the 'productive' who didn't like living next to ru have already left.
asciilifeform: hence, the enthusiastic suckers of usg cock are faced with waging war on everything that distinguishes their country from african pisshole
pete_dushenski: ha that's an interesting point
asciilifeform: in latvia, estonia, situation is somewhat 'ukraininan' in that the industrial/scientific productive folks are solidly ru-speaking (if not actual ru)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the men of lithuania idem
decimation: I had a professor from Warsaw in EE undergrad: he had a joke: what do you call Prof. Zak in an f-16? Simple Pole in the complex plane?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://40.media.tumblr.com/8e788c436213452d04f56f5664ca46e3/tumblr_ncbcyt46ni1sffpvxo1_1280.jpg << now there is a REAL burning man!
asciilifeform: interesting example of latvia, where, iirc, the greater share of adult men are on 'european tour' (sweeping floors in germany for hourly wage)
asciilifeform: decimation: they would have to confront the fact that %xx of the adult men are pro-soviet
decimation: however, what $$ cannot buy is the will to use them
decimation: I can't imagine buying a surplus romanian kalash & a few sticks of c4 for every household would be more than a few $100 mil
asciilifeform: the baltic nazis were rather miffed when they learned what their role in nato would be (human shields, corpse-carriers) on account of lacking actual armies
decimation: "In the meantime, Lithuania is slowly strengthening its military apparatus, aiming to raise defense spending to 1.1 percent of GDP this year, and to NATO's own recommended target of 2 percent by 2020."
pete_dushenski: well then, lol!
decimation: note, lithuania didn't draft all adult males into army, issue rifles, and begin training...
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski that is the lol.
mircea_popescu: they should have had a plan to flee to finland.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: please, desert trolls
mircea_popescu: "swamp trolls and mountain trolls"
decimation: re: eastern europe: http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-lithuania-manual-foreign-invasion/26802181.html << lol lithuania gov't, worried about Russian aggression, publicly released a 'handbook' detailing how to flee to poland
mircea_popescu: a there you go Alina-malina
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mircea_popescu: get in teh wot will you.
mircea_popescu: lol what's that one ?
asciilifeform: decimation: iirc arch linux is a systemd-ized turd.
decimation: at any rate, "arch linux arm" officially supports their port on the pogoplug I gather
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pete_dushenski: goddamit i barely trust anything a macbook air does
asciilifeform: i'll point out that it is not necessary to use the uart on pogo unless you seriously botch the install.
pete_dushenski: i've never trusted apple bluetooth
asciilifeform: decimation: i think i linked the photo here. at any rate the uart is plain as daylight on this board.
decimation: yeah there's something in the bluetooth stack
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decimation: asciilifeform: re: pogoplug << http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2284 Arch linux dufus parade has a thread that shows the location of a uart
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decimation: yeah I would say that the unicomp strikes me as 'plastic-y'
asciilifeform: decimation: the two habitual mac users i work with just threw out their unicomps (i think they were..) and bought actual 'model m' each.
decimation: possibly one could remap keys though, osx actually is pretty good with that
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: economists would say that this is the function of specialisation in an economy ;)
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decimation: mircea_popescu: re: judge who threw confused girl in jail for 4 years << nope he is a yale grad http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/11/14/president-obama-nominates-seven-united-states-district-courts
asciilifeform: this is the thing that always blew my mind about serious apple aficionados - they will pay, 20-100 usd, for a proggy that ought to be a 3-line perl script
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: apple's config thing has built-in key mapper
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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: which is easy enough to do with sizzlingkeys, but this doesn't work on pre-10.7
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the customary mapping, iirc, is capslock->ctrl, ctrl->cmd, alt->option
mircea_popescu: nothing is worse for a good project than poorly selected new contributors.
pete_dushenski: a small barrier to entry, but a barrier nonetheless
mircea_popescu: no, it is NOT because of "inflated expectations". it is because of the barnacle effect. the world consists of a productive minority and a leechy majority. once a small elegant system becomes known, the previously uninformed majority now has a gradient to inform it. so they swarm the 2nd system, and barnacle it to all hell.
pete_dushenski: model m has to be diddled
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: second-system effect << almost invariably discussed in the context of 'multics'
pete_dushenski: unicomp has all the normal mac keys
pete_dushenski: and no need to program keys
mircea_popescu: "The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to have elephantine, feature-laden monstrosities as their successors due to inflated expectations."
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: my guess is the usb
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what i utterly fail to grasp is why the 'unicomp' is even a thing, when actual 'model m' can be had for 20-50 usd. in working condition (if perhaps in need of a bath)
mircea_popescu: "the people" are simply stupider than they were even twenty years ago.
asciilifeform: castle - still there, afaik.
asciilifeform: once there was a town outside the castle - now, wolves.
mircea_popescu: however, it used to be enough, atsme point
pete_dushenski: the unicomp that is
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i'm hardly a power user so i hope mine lasts longer than that
asciilifeform: everything else - the wolves.
mircea_popescu: the much sadder thing is linux decaying proportionally, and linus is still there!
asciilifeform: unicomp << a colleague of mine just threw one out. worn springs after ~1 year.
pete_dushenski: i was mostly using the white/clear plastic 10-keyer
mircea_popescu: yeh, can't not decay now that cap'n stevie's gone.
pete_dushenski: hacking on the model m now and also picked up the unicomp knock-off