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fluffypony: have we discussed the Croatian president yet?
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you want to hang someone for the horrible state of publishing and/or us business culture these days, she's as good as anyone.
mircea_popescu: speaking of the derps behind the derpage : "Sara Miller McCune was born into a middle-class Jewish family in Manhattan. She was international president of B'nai B'rith Girls at the age of 19, and has spoken of the importance of tzedakah."
mircea_popescu: "We don't mess with anybody. All we want to do is play games, share healthy ideas. We don't try to influence the government or what's happening in Cuba ... We do the right thing and they let us keep at it."
punkman: "blocked from the network by their peers for as a little as a day for minor infractions such as slowing down SNet with file-sharing outside prescribed hours, with lifetime bans for violations like distributing pornography."
assbot: News from The Associated Press ... ( http://bit.ly/1y2dgmg )
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i do not know enough about koch to say < i do. he's old. this is a game for men, not for codgers.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'progressives' like to trot out examples of 'the people of the past could not buy an ipNohe for any price' << except current folk can not get stuff like... tomatoes, for any price.
mircea_popescu: (the college professor also makes intellectual sense, but the current day implementation has nothing to do with the thing that makes sense - "why is he a professor ? " "because all these people know him, respect him and wish to be his studends" vs "why are you his student ?" "because hes the professor"
mircea_popescu: however, not in the current bastardization
mircea_popescu: that's kinda how the notion of the central banker was born. it does make economic / financial sense.
mircea_popescu: generaly confidence crises can be unwound by a party universally trusted that's techniocally competent
mircea_popescu: decimation> j.p. morgan singlehandly bailed out banking ca. 1907 << nah, it was more like teh mp effect.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'the actual rich' as a monolithic whole is, i dare say, a fictional trope as well << what, and i suppose the island of beautiful women doens't exist, either ?!
decimation: aye, m. danton-style. the trouble is, there's always herr guillotine waiting for yezhov
asciilifeform rather than crapping out further conjecture re: deep ocean fish - goes to bed.
asciilifeform: possibly it'll be his driver, who will cut off his head and display it on a pike to a cheering crowd, and not him
asciilifeform: i do not know enough about koch to say whether he is likely to become a post-usg sovereign who might conceivably carry out experiments with artificial fucktopias
TheNewDeal: !down TheNewDeal
decimation: even if herr koch wanted to create a 'functional german hamlet' from ukraine, (for instance), how could he possibly do it without making it like disneyland?
asciilifeform: to which i answer, today's richest king cannot buy quite a few things that common beggar had a century ago.
asciilifeform: the say 'richest king could not buy a plasma tv'
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2015 04:45:19; mircea_popescu: decimation it's as fucking unbriliant as a lump of coal. at the end of the week, instead of having a decent steak and a game of bridge with intellgient people,
asciilifeform: 'progressives' like to trot out examples of 'the people of the past could not buy an ipNohe for any price'
asciilifeform: decimation: aha. quite a few of them, for instance, probably have difficulty even buying sex safely
asciilifeform: perhaps after usg implodes he can buy some people to fill it with
decimation: actually compared to 'rich men' of the past, folks with mere $ billions are rather poor
decimation: heh yeah might as well buy personal town for his toys
asciilifeform: decimation: what is he supposed to do? he already bought 'sleep ad libitum'
asciilifeform: anything i, for instance, might say about the genuinely rich (folks entirely and permanently insulated from economic reality, who can finance wars, etc.) is likely to be laughably wrong - what i know of them is largely like what i know of the wonderful fish that live kilometres below in the sea - that is, stemming largely from inference using physical fact and thirdhand clues
assbot: Billionaire Bill Koch's new Colorado town is a private Old West marvel - The Denver Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXq7Ky )
asciilifeform: 'the actual rich' as a monolithic whole is, i dare say, a fictional trope as well
decimation: asciilifeform: do you think that 'actual rich' don't get ideas from film too?
asciilifeform: just like to them 'economics is what happens at the grocery counter' (from mircea_popescu article ?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my understanding is that most folks in usa get mental picture of 'what the rich do' from film
decimation: well, there was a time for getting out of Paris
mircea_popescu: shut up and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
decimation: except the rich jew who owns it?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole piece is a neat summary of just how idiotic the demo is.
asciilifeform: 'buying airstrips and farms in remote areas' - what, farming with their own hands!? lol
decimation: oil is a terrible store of value - it halved in only a few weeks! it's a good idea though, I'm going to wait for the next generation of chemical energy movement & storage
assbot: As inequality soars, the nervous super rich are already planning their escapes | Public Leaders Network | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXp5OL )
asciilifeform: who did first rate maths after 50? erdos? can't think of more than one or two names
asciilifeform: we all get time-limited, lol
mircea_popescu: it breaks the entire construction.
mircea_popescu: yeah but the problem is still exposed : to live like one pleases specifically can not carry a rider of time limited.
asciilifeform: used him as example because folks here all (?) read him and mr t expounds at great length re: 'what it means to really live'
asciilifeform: 'like taleb' ~~= 'sleep ad libitum'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is where we differ. i would live like no man, and i would impale anyone trying.
mircea_popescu: these two are incomparable.
mircea_popescu: mats: its hilarious that anyone wanted to pay so much as 1mn for blockchain.info << you are thinking money as in, someone earned / saved these. that's not what's happening there : they're spending money that was simply created by yellen / conjured up by accounting fraud / etc.
asciilifeform: if i could live like, e.g., taleb, for 20 years, with the understanding of being impaled after - i would. i don't particularly need being fifty for anything.
asciilifeform: it's good for ~30 years. after that - brick.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think of it this way. space probe has radiotherm battery.
mircea_popescu: seems rather the opposite of either cultured or man.
mircea_popescu: so the problem here is thjat some peniless tramp gave himself a lordship that he then couldn't finance ?
asciilifeform: ask lord kelvin to work for a living, while at it.
asciilifeform: ask j.c.maxwell to give up his horse and hunting ground.
asciilifeform: ask him to go in barrel, sure.
asciilifeform: heaviside, for instance, couldn't really think without standing next to a monstrous roaring gas flame (he actually had to smash a pipe)
mircea_popescu: seems a lot more productive. the exiled russian thinkers did pretty good in ny. a lot better, at any rate, than the nysu "professors"
mircea_popescu: because back then the average american understood himself as a peniless tramp, that's fortunate to even be allowed in europe at all.
asciilifeform: to demand that every thinker be diogenes ?!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> but not typical. << so much bs. looky here : henry miller did just fine, bumming bowls of soup.
BingoBoingo: mats: I'll probably be amenable to assisting though.
BingoBoingo: mats: Maybe. Still experiencing brainrot for IRL reddit this weekend so am hesitant to make commitments atm.
asciilifeform: chump money that you 'have' somewhere - is not income.
mats: BingoBoingo: at a later date, i'd like some assistance with reviewing and rating materials from the courts-circus project. would you be interested?
decimation: of course, in an account that isn't locked away by some deal with usg re: taxes
asciilifeform: add two zeros if going for total isolation including expatriation on a day's notice
decimation: asciilifeform: for 'passive investments' available to the public, that implies a net worth of > $3 mil
asciilifeform: price other, more mundane things, in usa. like 'have 100+ m^2 dwelling to yourself, with climate control, one that isn't falling apart'
asciilifeform: at any rate, it isn't about the bookz.
asciilifeform: but not typical.
asciilifeform: what i meant was, someone whose primary avocation is thinking. and yes, it is possible to do this in a forest, in log cabin, like unabomber.
asciilifeform: neh i ought to have been more specific.
mircea_popescu: so, if "cultured man" is some sort of scholarly gentleman, then one needs some rather commonly available books.
mircea_popescu: well look. this is like playing patanque in a boat.
asciilifeform: esp. in the age of the Pnohe
asciilifeform: i've never heard of anyone being thrown out for having one as of yet.
decimation: heh do they even allow cameras? or do you have to be sneaky?
asciilifeform: decimation: time is money
asciilifeform: in certain professions one does not have the luxury of arbitrarily proclaiming 'if not on the net, doesn't exist'
decimation: asciilifeform: you can go down to the library of congress physically
asciilifeform: not everything is on the net. this is a fact.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm paying 'book bill' that isn't that much lower than mr mold
gribble: Arthur Andersen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen>; Enron scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal>; Arthur Anderson Auditors and Enron: What happened to their Texas ...: <http://www.aabri.com/manuscripts/11899.pdf>
mircea_popescu: rethorical question, not for they present, but for the absent if avid readers.
mircea_popescu: by the way : is the vc circus of the belief that the well proven, on the courthouse record, role of one of the "big four" accounting companies in asset inflation and bubble pumping has been forgotten ?
asciilifeform: anywhere, afaik, in usa, but the wildest wolf forest or the meanest urban ash heap
asciilifeform: back to 'cultured man' - i'd say that living 'life of the mind' in usa is not cheap. regardless of what kind of hero you might be. a dwelling without random bozos sharing it, for instance, is $xxxx/mo.
BingoBoingo: The Rum fountain. No author appears to be a forensic pyschiatrist as he self describes.
mircea_popescu: generally, the sort of overgrown boy that doesn't shoot his own horse is in no position to pick anything. woman picks like at the fair.
TheNewDeal: BingoBoingo this definitely is one of the article I was reading > I remember seeing the receptors lined up as a fountain
asciilifeform: 'sapper errs twice, once when choosing profession'
mircea_popescu: i know very few us men that pick wife.
mircea_popescu: odds are, woman decided to have children, his choice was whether to pay a lawyer AND the woman orjust the woman.
asciilifeform: as in the army joke
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he presumably picked wife, rather than being issued one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i doubt the man decided anything in there.