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trinque: seems like
there are a few ways a mind can break
trinque: makes me
think of either you or asciilifeform
talking about concentration camp inmates pretending
to be guards, making fake uniforms
trinque: hm so maybe
that's what lingers,
the delusional faux-doing
trinque: what does
the
tea party "do" now? make
tshirts?
trinque: I don't know;
thinking about
this runs into
the inability
to coherently do anything
mircea_popescu: there's always one of
these,
that came in and ruined "a good
thing". prollly
the chinese i gues,
tho you never know.
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious who will be claimed as
the evil foreign invader.
trinque: the idea
that being embarrassed about discussing money for example makes
them a good communist
trinque: portland business owners enrage me for
that reason
trinque: mircea_popescu: congregate and resolve
to be bad at new-ruling-ideology
to make a point?
mircea_popescu: it's a lot of... welll.... actually it looks a lot like liberal-radical-on-reddit, in
the early stages.
mircea_popescu: nah. i happen
to know what
they'll do. sadly it's all in romanian, but
there's dozens of articles detailing
the "what do idiots who
thought
they were right and in power do once it comes out
they were wrong and never really in power".
trinque: mircea_popescu: maybe when
they're all in chains
they can dig holes
then fill
them back in for a while
mircea_popescu: "Please
take Econ 1. When
the Federal govt prints more money and spends, you do not get much inflation when
there is massive unemployment.
The extra $
the government prints and distributes is spent, increasing demand for goods and services. If
the govt
then KEEPS increasing
the money supply,
THEN you get inflation."
mircea_popescu: trinque i suspect
they actually understand
this pretty well, which is why
the vehehehery gingerly
treatment of actual powers
that be, and
the very loud derpage around idiots asking for a cock in
their ass, like schwarz.
trinque: this and
the inability of
the NSA
to act coherently I
think come from
the same dead culture
trinque: I expect a collective mental breakdown followed by wailing and gnashing of
teeth instead
trinque: mircea_popescu: perhaps when
the state
tucking
them in at night fails
to do so for a sufficient number of days
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long until it sinks in, with
the mostly empty head of obama, with
the mostly empty head of blasio, with
the mostly empty head of everyone else in
that group of derps :
that
they're still alive because nobody could be bothered
to kill
them yet.
mircea_popescu: these aren't hard problems in any sense anymore.
they're onyl still hard for retards. otherwise,
the safety of "designated importants" ios a matter of public mercy
mircea_popescu: the sad fact of
the matter is
that
the same general development
that allows derps like yanis souflakis
to pretend like "he can distinguish inflation from product improvement" also allows anyone who isn't a redditard and has a day's leisure
to build a missile ; and anyone
that isn't iran and so mentally retarded
to build a nuke.
mats: we had a few in my intel section while i was in, fucking
things would fall out of
the sky a quarter of
the
time, 20 mins into flight
mats: why would you want
to buy a fucking raven anyways?
mats: Secret Service has no humor about
this sort of
thing.
mats: i'd like
to
take
this moment
to affirm
that
this is purely speculative, and i have no intention of being so much as within
the city limits of POTUS...
mircea_popescu: tbh, if you're going
this avenue you're better off firing a home made sol-sol missile at
the
target
than hitting
them with a homemade drone
mats: i
think
the WASP is a more economically feasible approach
mats: and good luck getting
that high with a meaningful payload
BingoBoingo: RE: KGB -
Tom Clancy novels were right except "Jack Ryan" was russian and manifests IRL as Putin.
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trinque: ends up
turning
the launch site into an inferno
to match
trinque: asciilifeform: it's
that coherence bit
that I
think is important. An N1 rocket has plenty of power at its disposal
mats: they routinely deploy jammers, set perimeters, and have
trained designated marksmen... learned
their lessons in
trashcanistan et. al
thestringpuller: I'm certain
this is not recent
theory as its pop culture by now.
mircea_popescu: much like
the pacepa defection proved
the end of
the romanian
thing.
thestringpuller: You kidnap someone and claim you're CIA or some agency but really not (You're some shadowy private spy agency). So
then when
the "investigation" begins
the dozen or so spy agencies point fingers at each other and unknown private firm continues
to hide in shadows
mats: na, 'exploding drones' doesn't seem like a good way
to kill a protected person
BingoBoingo: And after
the
toy drone incidents
trap shooting is going
to have become part of
the standard marksmanship bar
to pass, if actual lizard hitler.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform:
this is why I
think private spy agency with $maxint budget are more efficient
than any USG version.
trinque: seems a place for rot
to accumulate, not coherent action
thestringpuller: i
thought
they just protect obama and slap around counterfeiters
mircea_popescu: there's also
the secret service dudes, guarding your
tungsten bars an' sheit
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell
teward *
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mircea_popescu: but
then again, i don't know anyone but asciilifeform
to both honestly and seriously propose viewing
the nsa as aserious endeavour, and even he's been kinda shaken latelyt.
mircea_popescu: re
thye whole "Source Code Similarities Between NSA Malware and 'Regin'
Trojan " :
the cause is quite obvious but somehow not found by
the ever-brighter hn collective.
that is : nsa outsourced
the production.
the way
that ball got dropped is embarassing
to
them, and its very existence even more embarassing.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: kings <<
that one, and $maxint others, are 'moldbuggian' blogs
that appeared in imitation, nth generation copies of nth generation copies, etc. << Less pseudoliteracy, more literacy as archeaological artifact
there. Seems distinct off shoot of Moldsphere. Far greater focus on expatriation.
trinque: mircea_popescu: between
the CVEs and your links
this room pays for itself
jurov: er..
there's
tor
too
jurov: just have an ebuild for it? or it ought
to produce identical binaries no matter what?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
tornade ? sounds like
toynode, except also descriptive.
jurov: will add 0.5.3.1
tmrw or so
jurov: it's
the very first chicken versions
mircea_popescu: guy's obviously got his own agenda, but hey, won't be able
to say he wasn't exposed
to
the sane set of ideas.
trinque: seems like
the libraries using
this stuff
take it upon
themselves
to spawn
the
thing
they want?
trinque: I'm sure
this accessibility crap can remote control any gtk app
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's how
the accessbility stuff sails in.
trinque: when I find out how
to kill it I will
mats: trinque: an exercise for
the reader
trinque: mircea_popescu: wasn't started by openrc, nor .xprofile, just spawned off by gtk I
think... ?
mircea_popescu: trinque: why
the fuck for example do I have some daemon running for accessibility << generally
that's because if you need it you can't
turn it on, so it has
to be on by default. you can
turn it off obviously.
trinque: mircea_popescu:
they can't whip up satanic cult hysteria anymore... pedos are second best?
trinque: mats: what was
the second
thing?
mircea_popescu: i wonder how prevalent
this actually is. as opposed
to interested parties
trying
to create a niche for
their ngos.
mircea_popescu: "MOSAC - a charity which supports
the non-abusing parents and carers of abused children - says a
third of all calls
to its helpline are from women who believe
they have been groomed into conceiving a child."
trinque: to own something means you can destroy it, not necessarily
that you will
trinque: I
think one's dominion whereas
the other's destruction.
mats: some metaphysical nonsense... but i still
think about it from
time
to
time.
trinque: you need some of
that other stuff
to exist
mats: i'm quoting heavily from a book
that was influential in my youth.