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asciilifeform: moar like 'it is not possible that the burst of suction came at just the ideally convenient time, direction, and vacuum pressure.'
mircea_popescu: "it is not possible we just simply suck. our excellent goodness is hidden somewhere. if we coud just unleash the real we..."
mircea_popescu: "the good tzar"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to this day there are rumours that the food was 'hidden somewhere' by usg stooges to cause shortages.
mircea_popescu: it has the look.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the vid is actually quite credible.
pete_dushenski: "of course the usd was going to vanish!"
pete_dushenski: seems so ? link for "big five" goes to "big four" article...
pete_dushenski: and wikitardia is saying that aa was part of the "big five"
pete_dushenski: closer to 5 even
pete_dushenski: sure, that's be like what 6% inflation over 13 years
mircea_popescu: and twice the employees so half the real salaries.
mircea_popescu: so "twice the money" except it's probably the same value,
mircea_popescu: who knew that expropriation creates bureaucracy1
mircea_popescu: apparently accountancy become a pretty good business in the us, past decade.
mircea_popescu: o they just promoted one
mircea_popescu: are they bringing the corpse back in on the quiet ?
mircea_popescu: what big four ? one of them died with enron neh ?
pete_dushenski: "Cathy Engelbert has been named chief executive of Deloitte LLP, the first woman to become CEO of one of the Big Four accounting firms in the U.S."
pete_dushenski: "what is the utility of a centimetre!"
thestringpuller: It's like the dinosaurs getting mad at mammals instead of the asteroid or something like that.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Yes, but back in the day people would just die after wasting too much energy trying to change something absolute in inevitability. (Doing rain dances during droughts instead of looking into irrigation).
pete_dushenski: i'm generous enough to propose that the value of a free and productive man is a bitcent
pete_dushenski: man i know how to time it
asciilifeform: if fleas could speak, i imagine they would be similarly vocal about the proper behaviour of dogs
mircea_popescu: the point of money is exactly this : that it may not itself be measured. there's no "utility" of money. it exclusively exists to measure everything else.
pete_dushenski: as per the definition
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: because that's what makes them poor
mircea_popescu: repackaging of ther "oh, utility of mining, all that electrictiy burned for nothing" crapolade.
thestringpuller: How do poor people have this much energy to be this vocal about something they will not be able to control...
mircea_popescu: and ship the results by horse courrier
pete_dushenski: like the sun is energy
mircea_popescu: all it has to do is make sure it's the best money. which it did. once that's done, utility is not a concern. you will work the blockchain if you have to do it by hand in dank cellars chained to the wall,
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what I don't get is why people are freaking out they will have to pay a lot of money to use the system?
mircea_popescu: bitcoin itself is money. that means BEYOND ANY UTILITY CONSIDERATION.
mircea_popescu: the utility OF EVERYTHING justifies itself in bitcoin terms.
mircea_popescu: at any rate, all this talk of "utility of bitcoin" can get fucked. it's a flimsy if doomed and in any case transparent attempt to frame the question in fiat terms.
pete_dushenski: maybe "mostly engineers" are those horse-riding folk
mircea_popescu: but anyway : it's not "mostly engineers". it's 100% of all the business people actually involved with bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: five years later... shit, it's the same thing. herp.
mircea_popescu: five years ago romania was replete with kids who rewrote trilema articles about this and that to be like all cool and civilised and worldly and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: what i find comedic is the sort of schmuck that thinks he'll survive on intellectual dishonestly. here's the story : if i made it and you stole it, whatever you think about it and however you're representing it... it'll still work for me. not for you. that's the thing with culture.
asciilifeform: 'Ye Queene.—O' God's name, who hath favored us? Hath it come to pass yt a fart shall fart itself?'
mircea_popescu: "something i heard from all the people that all read trilema but i won't mention this"
mircea_popescu: except they don't have a source, somehow, magically ?
mircea_popescu: o look at it, suddenly the arguments that didn't exist now exist ?
mircea_popescu: I think of it from the perspective of utility. "
mircea_popescu: "It's largely engineers who think about it in terms of game theory. They think that if you have unlimited blocksize, then the cost of transactions will go to zero because there will always be a competitor that is willing to include transactions even if you're charging X. They believe this will cause a race to bottom and there won't be any incentive for miners to secure the network because they can't cover costs.
thestringpuller: i love this block size/hard fork "debate"
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cazalla: nubbins`: incidentally, a guy i went to uni with, and whom i help get oriented on his first day in south korea, is now a straight-up major label pop star <<< western kpop stars exist?
ben_vulpes: dunno that i've ever been shy
ben_vulpes: blast from the past!
mircea_popescu: is this like a blonde joke ?
nubbins`: girl goes to porn audition, guy says "we have roles left in two films: 'beaten to death by hard cock' and 'do not talk to me, just cum on my face'"
mircea_popescu: i mean, neurosis is one thing. this however...
nubbins`: hm i recall this one SL comic
mircea_popescu: i dunno what's more alienating than the bizarre that obviously feeds this comic strip.
nubbins`: it's only okay to have /some/ mental illnesses
mircea_popescu: on my tenuous grasp of insanity, it'd seem that it's an entirely vacuous thing, which takes the shape you impose upon it. if you insist it's dangerous... it will probably grow some dangerous appendages. if you treat it as benign, it will basically be benign.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, man... that's some serious issues.
mircea_popescu: on one hand, it does exactly nothing to anyone, including the kids in question, that some weirdo jacks off.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, this particular sort of strange would definitely benefit from support more than OUTRAGE OMG!!1
nubbins`: technically 90s-present depending on your tolerance for working illegally
nubbins`: incidentally, a guy i went to uni with, and whom i help get oriented on his first day in south korea, is now a straight-up major label pop star
asciilifeform: at one point, it was possible for virtually anyone who speaks engl. to find work in jp 'teaching'
nubbins`: speaking from experience, roughly half of all ESL teachers are "strange"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu you probably would not be surprised at how common this is
mircea_popescu: mebbe he actually went because he wanted to jacvk off to 12yo jap gals.
mircea_popescu: english teacher ;likely thing for a foreigner there to do.
nubbins`: and his employers caught whiff of this necro-mastur-porn comic he did
nubbins`: i can't recall the details, but i feel like at the time it was a sort of "english teacher overseas" thing
asciilifeform: now this - i never knew.
nubbins`: iirc the guy got outed in meatspace and had to "disappear" the old name
nubbins`: any of you remember when it was called "the thin H line"?
mircea_popescu: much in the way kids used to replace the "made by" strings in the old 8086 days with a hex editor.
mircea_popescu: in fact, as ridiculous as mormonism is, he is an exact copy. the cultural relationship between judaism and christianity is exactly the same as between christianity and mormonism : a barely literate lout ran off with a few pages and made his own, self-important "variant",
mircea_popescu: (so a bunch of idiot chicks are trying to write it, out of boring gender and race stories)
ben_vulpes: asshat talmud when
mircea_popescu: roughly about the same weight as what in europe constitutes "the humanities".
mircea_popescu: and yes, on top of that there's a web of commentary stretching out approx to the roman period.
asciilifeform: approx. the same size as a set of 'britannica.'
mircea_popescu: the jew books are about 5x the new+old testament.
mircea_popescu: davout well the split happened after some pretty heavy duty pruning.
davout: danielpbarron: it's ok to have sidechains!
danielpbarron: jews add too; they have sets of books of "oral tradition" separate from the scriptures
mircea_popescu: "oh, people mock us for being essentially jew torrent artists ? FINE. WRITE A CONTINUATION."
mircea_popescu: considering how it came to be...
danielpbarron: he wouldn't be the first
davout: danielpbarron: i heard gavin andresen wants to add a couple extra chapters to it, for moar adopshun
danielpbarron: in Bible terms, it's enough to "lay with" someone, or "know her," or "see her nakedness" ; not sure a condom would get in the way of those things
mircea_popescu: "hey, suicide guy, you gonna kill youself ?" "yeah. life sucks." "wanna fuck first ?" "no, you freak!" "i guess ima have to wait for your body to wash ashore."
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, condoms = masturbation don't they.
mircea_popescu: speaking of hats for nutjobs, always remember to wear your condom!
davout: aaaaaand we're back to hats for nutjobs
mircea_popescu: o wait. i thought you meant the pope's (abandoned) claim of sovereignity over teh sovereigns.
mircea_popescu: hey, technically a valid claim. all of europe exists as embezzled provinces of the roman empire.
ben_vulpes: right up there with the sovereignty of sovereigns.