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thestringpuller: decimation: so in theory welfare is racist to asian people.
decimation: it's well known that asians must perform several points above average to be admitted to 'elite' schools
BingoBoingo: mats: Watch telenovas, pick up the accent, and you can prolly pass as a more obscure flavor of hispanic
decimation: mats: unfortunately being asian puts you at the bottom of every welfare list
mats: or do i have to be hispanic or black
mats: do asians qualify for this free money im hearing about?
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decimation: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/03/06/exclusive-unmasking-worlds-most-wanted-hacker/ < sabu change employment from welfare division to fbi
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: "glorious tobacco" << how so? care to elaborate?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket << terry davis. and schizophrenia is still one of the more reliable ways a white man can get usg payola. though it's still an 'achievement', on part with getting a $1M research grant on your lonesome << Who knows, if it wasn't for glorious tobacco maybe I'd be on that golden ticket
decimation: I'm sure you would need several signed and stamped notes from the 'mental health' chumpatron
asciilifeform: the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket << terry davis. and schizophrenia is still one of the more reliable ways a white man can get usg payola. though it's still an 'achievement', on part with getting a $1M research grant on your lonesome
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BingoBoingo: ;;google truth about SSI
mircea_popescu: last time i was in an access controlled building they had to provide an intern to run behind me holding my fucking card.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: what they are paid for << not to riot, is my perception
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, i don't even wear those idiotic card things.
mircea_popescu: so these total fuckwits imagine they asked a powerful person to... write on their own fucking forehead ?
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mircea_popescu: ok this is the lulziest thing i read al lweek!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...but a leech ? a leech is a revolutionary. << usg welfare folks aren't leeches, they're employees. (what're they paid for? ask tlp.)
decimation: plus if you have any history of working at all, you are not gonna make the SSDI
decimation: danielpbarron: yeah it would take a good year or two of concerted effort to con/harass the appropriate 'social workers' into giving you what you want
danielpbarron: i'm too lazy for all that work; it's easier to just do something useful in exchange for money
asciilifeform: to let people pick the density of welfare cases in their area << they already can! (price)
BingoBoingo: decimation: As TLp notes there are gradients of SSDI and SSI
decimation: I think asciilifeform said that the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket
decimation: the trifecta is social security disability. If you can prove that you are 'unable to work', you will be able to collect social security too
decimation: to get the 'whole package', you are going to need to be a minority more than likely
danielpbarron: and you'll need it because that's not enough to live on
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decimation: danielpbarron: well, simply making less than the amount required for the earned income tax credit gives you free money from the irs http://www.irs.gov/uac/Check-Your-Eligibility-for-the-Earned-Income-Tax-Credit
decimation: re: fiat heros < ron paul agrees: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/february/23/the-washington-post-s-gross-mischaracterization-of-ron-paul-s-message/ “Sanity will not return to US leaders until our financial system collapses — an event for which they are feverishly working,” and “Before we can actually restore our liberties, we most likely will have to become a lot less free and much poorer.”
danielpbarron: is it possible to get money from USG without strings attached?
decimation: such an attitude is obviously silly when exposed to any facts
decimation: there is a large component of america (in the upper classes) that still has a belief that those dollars in their accounts are 'theirs' (in the 'sovereign citizen' sense)
mircea_popescu: well wtf do i care, some guy steals some back ? more power to him.
decimation: the illusion was thinking that were 'yours' in the first place
mircea_popescu: in any case it's not "your" tax dollars. it's obama's. he already stole them from you.
decimation: well, if you think the government is an enemy and confiscates your stuff, what do you think about the guy who is wallowing in the proceeds?
mircea_popescu: which is really not the fault of poor/lazy/stupid people
mircea_popescu: decimation perhaps the delusion here is that the fucking govt is an enemy not an alter ego ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes decimation Honestly I think people who run up bezzel debt and weaken fiat are heros
decimation: perhaps one component is that folks in the us imagine their tax dollars going elsewhere
mircea_popescu: well but see ? russian guy comes into play. "why the fuck wouldn't i take money if i can get away with it ? and why aren't you fucking cheering me for it!"
ben_vulpes: it's not you, it's the americans.
ben_vulpes: to let people pick the density of welfare cases in their area?
decimation: mircea_popescu: don't you think shame is a motivator?
ben_vulpes: to poke the bear?
mircea_popescu: i imagine a better question would be to ask why the fuck does this matter.
ben_vulpes: so it seems a good exercise would be to release that list of recipients anyways.
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decimation: some of the programs mentioned above are run by the states
BingoBoingo: Shit is compartmented to hell
BingoBoingo: decimation: The problem is separation
decimation: if pressed, I'm sure the bureaucracy would bleat that it needs to protect the 'privacy' of the recipient
decimation: do the checks arrive monthly? are the ebt cards filled?
decimation: BingoBoingo: this is no accident
BingoBoingo: decimation: Part of the obstacle is there's no unified list
decimation: in fact, it's illegal for a real estate agent in the us to tell you how many welfare cases live on a street
decimation: asciilifeform: if you drill, you find that the bureaucracy that disburses these payments is extremely jealous about releasing exact details
asciilifeform: decimation: in general there's nothing secret about who they are - you can mostly tell by street address
decimation: if I were president, the first order I would make would be to released the list of everyone who receives money from the list above
decimation: re: living wage < in the us, if you sum up everyone on section 8 rent subsidy, medicaid, medicare, social security, mortgage deduction and then us mil, us civil service, you probably have swedish level 'welfare'
mircea_popescu: be part of the red party.
asciilifeform: how's that work - what did they actually -do-
mircea_popescu: well, they released adrian nastase
asciilifeform: anyone actually sitting for this at the moment ?
mircea_popescu: you gotta understand, you go to jail in romania for being a socialist.
asciilifeform: (see the u.s. 'college racket' etc)
asciilifeform: the 'living wage' thing is much closer to things that actually happen, because pumping staight from treasury to rentiers (who jack prices immediately on anything subsidized) is apparently a-ok
mircea_popescu: it is the fate of the intellectual to discuss things that shall never be.
mircea_popescu: nor did any of the guys end up in prison
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the 20k thing ever actually happen ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> some time with their thoughts hindered no adult thinker. << No guarentee roommate would be adult thinker
mircea_popescu: in other news, finally discovered the reason contemporary muzak sucks so bad. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln598igfTB1qa258ao1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: getting to do it while someone else pays for it - not just the roof and food, but the "whose fault it is!" is ideal.
mircea_popescu: some time with their thoughts hindered no adult thinker.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You forget failed Anglos founded USia, roommate jsut means orfice to use as escape from sensory deprivation
asciilifeform: or, more to the point, drinking the sea
asciilifeform: very few people would enjoy actually eating the horse
asciilifeform: at any rate, the 'eat a horse' effect is at work
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gotta get really lucky in usa to go straight to supermax << Illinois closed its onlu supermax at Tamms not long ago. Now there is only Noisemax unless you go federal
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but understand : there can be no further emergencies.
asciilifeform: (usg term for the classic dungeon where you get to sit alone)
asciilifeform: gotta get really lucky in usa to go straight to supermax
mircea_popescu: you can think.
mircea_popescu: and then... well... you can sleep.
mircea_popescu: so they put you in this place, which is fundamentally quiet. you can't be disturbed.
mircea_popescu: most people that had a decent career etc wanted - 1 year's vacation. and to sleep.
mircea_popescu: a while back i ran a "what'd you do with 100k euro" thing on my blog (because some fucktarded populists were "promoting a law" to give every schmuck 20k - romanians don't want living wages, they want universal windfalls)
mircea_popescu: well that's complicated.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's exactly one rape there, and it comes out of a political struggle. << Is rape ever anything other than politics?
mircea_popescu: there's exactly one rape there, and it comes out of a political struggle.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make this easier to approach, i would propose the situation depicted in american history x is perhaps the best summary of the situation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is not (yet!) an industry in usa devoted to helping pigs slaughter farmers
mircea_popescu: i never heard of a farmer not milking his cows because "they broke down", or not slaugthering the pigs etc.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> most people don't bother fucking their wives. why'd they bother with some random dude. << Prolly so random dude doesn't fuck them. WHy do dogs sniff assholes
mircea_popescu: not to say rape doesn't exist in prison. however, celebrity also exists in california.