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mircea_popescu: yes, silicon valley is going
to fail.
this is BECAUSE OF US. nothing else.
mircea_popescu: wait wait,
the industry is
to be
trained
to be worthy of all
the outpouring social studies experts ?
gabriel_laddel: ssage
that neither slogans like "knowledge-based decision aids", nor a combination of adhoccery and brute force will do
the job. (It is regrettable
that large groups only come
to
their senses after
their day-dreams have
turned into nightmares but,
this being so, we should occasionally welcome
the nightmares.)
gabriel_laddel: And also for
the American Universities
the
tide may be
turning.
Traditionally
they have been asked
to
train
the work-force for
the American industry, while
the question of educating
the industry so as
to be worthy of
their graduates was left untouched. But, currently, companies in Silicon Valley seem
to be folding up at a higher rate
than
they are erected. I consider
that good news because it could drive home
the me
pete_dushenski: and what child doesn't
think
that
they're
the centre of
the known universe ?
pete_dushenski: so 'think of
the children' is perfectly valid in
this la-la-land because it equates
to 'think of me'
mircea_popescu: as long as no children actually read
the abominations.
mircea_popescu: part of
the problem is
that
they have plenty of
time
to daydream.
pete_dushenski: and
they imagine
that
their 6 would become 7 if only
they were paid what
they're worth
mircea_popescu: they imagine
that if
they were in
the private sector,
they'd be contenders for vp of jpm
pete_dushenski: while
the private ceo's might be,
the average gov emplyee is better paid and works less
than
the private contractor
pete_dushenski: they imagine
that private contractors, who charge millions of dollars for various and sundry services, are making mad bank
pete_dushenski: the lulzy
thing about federal, and other gov employees, is
that
they
think
they're underpaid!
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 16:36:29; asciilifeform: -somebody-'s been reading
the logs.
mircea_popescu: where
the fuck do
these idiots go
to school ? clearly it must be a special venue.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2015#1031922 <<
this is fucking insane. "federal employees are not overpaid because federal govt is a business except it's not a business, and other businesses
that are businesses skew
the business average data!!!! federal employees are not overpaid by comparison
to federal employees, in fact
thjere's a perfect 1:1 correspondence"
☝︎ pete_dushenski would love
to see
the catholic church, or similar, admit
the same
mircea_popescu: "In any business, including
the Federal Government" << check it out ?! it's a business now ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Did you not have your
TSA approved paper gown?
pete_dushenski: 'real clothes' ? wtf is
that ? were
they suspicious of
the gypsy with money braided in his fro ?
mircea_popescu: honestly, it looked more like a private concern of
the guy's.
mircea_popescu: i guess
this qualifies in
the same line. but at least it was fucking customs, not
the airline.
mircea_popescu: a decade or w/e ago i last visited
the us,
they wanted
to know if i have any real clothes.
pete_dushenski: el-al at least sticks
to 'oh so you were on kibbutz for 2 months, what's
the hebrew word for milk ?'
pete_dushenski: felt like
they were
trying
to protect
their dollar from alien invaders or something
pete_dushenski: even qantas did
this recently: 'are you carrying more
than $10k in monies' and 'are you a
tewowist'
thing
mircea_popescu: or else you have partially unmonetized cool, and
then
there's different cools vying. like, las vegas is
the cool for people like liz blakely. however, san diego is
the cool for people like leah mcfuckface, what's her name
pete_dushenski: re:
tsa outsourcing, 'tis basically just el-al protocol
mircea_popescu: problem is, it's like money : either you have fully monetized cool, and
then it's cool and
that's
that, suck it.
pete_dushenski: in
the sense
that cool is relative, vegas, for all its abhorrence, is still cooler
than whatever else
there is
mircea_popescu: because hey, why should you get blamed for doing something stupid ? force others
to do it for you!
mircea_popescu: not really, not anymore. not since hughes bought
the cool people out.
pete_dushenski: in
that sense, it's really only vegas
that strikes me as a cool place on
the continent
pete_dushenski: it's endlessly sprawling and full of self-important consumers, but
the stampede draws out
the ladies
mircea_popescu: i don't
think it ever reached
the level. i mean it's been
trying, ever since
the 80s winter games etc. but...
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu seems like
this is also how calgary is cool but largely sucks
mircea_popescu: somehow "cuntslime on every rock" makes a place want you
to stay. which is exactly why las vegas exists.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski incredibly enough, it's not how
that works.
mircea_popescu: you just opened yourself for a pile of rocks
thrown eh.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'll blithely respond by gesturing
to all
the people in my life who came here by chance and never left again 8)
mircea_popescu: generally, it's
the "bare cunts dancing" district
that makes or breaks a city's cool.
pete_dushenski: this seems
to accomplish
the objective of keeping an inflated population off
the streets and little more
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how did you get
the idea
twodogs is cool as in, someone'd want
to move
there as a
thing
to do, rather
than "whatever,
they are giving out money here"
mircea_popescu: im curious
too, vicariously. if you figure it out say.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 13:24:00; jurov: now i am interested at
the exact
tradeoff factor "X% faster" vs. "crashes in 1 of Y cases" under which our civilization operates
mircea_popescu: have "toss
the feminist" festivals, people (that aren't retards) may wanna come.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski
the only
thing
that can work is making
the place be cool. merely "not suck" is not good enough.
nubbins`: the school system is a pretty big barrier
to entry
nubbins`: in other news,
the whole "we have oil, let's spend money"
thing has given way
to "the price of oil is out of our hands, let's aww fuck it's
too late"
pete_dushenski: nubbins` ya well administration after graduation is very much closing
the barn doors after
the horses have left
nubbins`: pete_dushenski out of
twodogland, specifically
mircea_popescu: if you want
to fix it, what you do is, you pick a pimp, give him legal immunity for a decade, let him build cabaret street.
nubbins`: like you said, if
the $150/mo student loan payment is
the
thing keeping someone here...
pete_dushenski: nubbins` outmigration out of maritimes or out of
the country ?
nubbins`: and
the usual is
to get a degree (cheapest in
the country!) and
then fuck off
nubbins`: anyway outmigration is a big
thing here
mircea_popescu: anyway.
this is kind-of how it worked in all
teh warsaw pact. except back
then people actually had nothing better
to do with
their
time, (LIKE IN A PRISON, ALF!) so
they studied.
punkman: if you get in, it's all free. might have
to pay for some books
these days
mircea_popescu: naked woman just bent
to pick up my garbage. i forget, what were we saying ?
mircea_popescu: heh. greece,
the least rich eu country, adheres
to nubbins` ideals!
punkman: and until now you could
take 10 years
to do 4 year degree
mircea_popescu: this is exactly like suicide :
the people who succeed we want.
the people who fail should have succeeded.
☟︎ nubbins`: instead, it's
the same cost it is *now*, except
the government would pay
the minimum monthlies on your student loans for as long as you remain in (the province, city, state, w/e)
mircea_popescu: meanwhile,
things
that exist because
thery're beautiful may get a pass.
mircea_popescu: because
the only reason it exists is
that it's useful. if useful can't pay useful can go hang.
nubbins`: because if
there wasn't a catch, it'd just be a boondoggle
nubbins`: so suppose we say "free university for anyone who wants
to study STEM"
mircea_popescu: nah,
that i can see paying for. what i can't see ever paying for is "social studies", "womens studies" etc.