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danielpbarron: the pogo light
turns red after blinking green, and nothing new appears in /dev/tty
gabriel_laddel: (allow me
to retract "flip out" -
they don't address any of
the arguments, say
that it pattern matches for 'crank'. I point out
that
this isn't an argument and
that every sentence is clearly falsifiable. Conversation
terminates.)
mircea_popescu: and
the very few
that do work,
take up bs jobs a la "pr". which, in romania, is just about
the 2010 version of "hairdresser".
ascii_field: i did a good bit of supercomp heavy lifting for his eotvos
thing, pro bono
mircea_popescu: goes for a phd. parents support "education" becasuse parents are a) idiotic and b) mostly women buy
the
time she's 25 anyway
mircea_popescu: same exact
thing happens in romania, 20sometrhing yo girlie, still very much mentally 15, does not want
to learn
to suck cock, does not
think a job's high enough for her reddit-powered pretense,
gabriel_laddel: I've given a few people links
to PERUSING
THE LIMITS OF FAILED SYMMETRY
ascii_field: got enough of a squeak out of him
to learn
that he's alive, but he doesn't sit on
the net much
these days
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel we were going
to put it on
the cardano originally, but guy stopped answering emails.
ascii_field: i
tried and
tried, without success,
to get schwartz in here.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: folks aren't signing up for uni because of employment, but as a
temporary reprieve from... what comes next
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: actually my explanation is out of date, now
that i
think about it
nubbins`: and yet
they're still determining what
the course materials are
nubbins`: and
the answer is actually a fair number of people, university professors included
ascii_field: who: folks who know
they have a 1 in 10 shot at employment if
they play, but 1 in 100 if not
nubbins`: a better question, who would fuck everyone else in
the world, in
the ass, for a free book?
nubbins`: in his right fucking mind is
the key
mircea_popescu: ascii_field who in his right fucking mind would participoate in
this ?
ascii_field: and housing cost,
that of books (mandatory and unshareable because homework given
through www for which password is a scratch-off card in book) etc
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller guy's just
trying
to matter, i wouldn't read
too much into it.
nubbins`: there *are* more fees now -- rec hall fee, xyz improvement fee... but still a shadow of non-frozen
tuition
ascii_field: that are mandatory but somehow 'not
tuition'
ascii_field: nubbins`: where i live,
the 'tuition freeze' is a
total scam.
they raise 'fees'
nubbins`: there's been a
tuition freeze here since like ~2001
nubbins`: actually now
that i
think about it
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
that's not even
the interesting part
mircea_popescu: tbh,
there's absolutely no reason college
time costs more
than 10-15k in
the us, either.
punkman: and we are basically exporting all
the decent graduates, since nobody wants
to live on 500eur/month salary
mircea_popescu: punkman romanians just make
them pay, it's beautiful. "got a 9.9x on natl exams ? ok, free. got 9.85 ? 3k a year. fu."
mircea_popescu: pity
this got so fucking popularised. it's a great march.
punkman: mircea_popescu: it was great when
they weren't all "no kid left behind"
mircea_popescu: in any case, it's a great system, but a) most kids have
to pay and b) i forget.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: you're leaving your house quite often
these days. I
thought you may have developed agoraphobia.
mircea_popescu: punkman
thats exactl;y how it works everywhere, romania, france. "bacalaureat" is
the proper
term,
tho prolly greeks don't use it ?
nubbins`: wake me up when
they can play rachmaninoff ;p
punkman: and you kinda have
to be an amoeba
to not get in some uni
punkman: I didn't explain well before, here's how it works: 1. last year of high school you, national exams. 2. you make ordered list of unis you'd like
to study at 3. exam grades and minimum grade for each uni are published. 4. congratulations, you got your 27th choice.
nubbins`: the logical conclusion is 10 of
them performing
the imperial march
ascii_field: at
this point i can
tell
the
topology being printed by
the sounds,
though not
the geometry, and it's creating a strange picture in head
nubbins`: and he can now
teach you
their secrets
nubbins`: i saw
this ridiculous youtube ad about
this asshole with an obv rented lambo
ascii_field is listening
to a '3d printer' go, and it's strangely hypnotic - like 'dot matrix' printer but less grating on
the ear
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no, it's 1 per 10k normally, and notice
the age specification. you'd get about 1
to 300k 18yo suicides normally.
ascii_field: you get 1 of 1000 at 'standard
temperature and pressure' in some places
mircea_popescu: and who
the fuck "surrounds
themselves" with mentors. is
this jay's movie ?
mircea_popescu: imo
this is
the mark of a good exam. if you don't get 1 female suicide out of 1k, you'e not really doing an exam.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, about one 18 yo girl per 1000 killed herself (chiefly by hanging) for having done a poor job on
the exames.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field obviously not. i was asking him about his country
today.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: you just need a pulse << not how it worked in ussr. sadistic entrance exams (for sci degree,
that is. not for meritwash of apparatchik children,
that was done american-style)
gabriel_laddel: t about
this young man. His net worth of 607MM should say a lot
to."
gabriel_laddel: "The intelligence level shifts because
the experience level shifts. Warren speaks on his experience from 1930 – Jay is from a different culture and different
time in history. His intelligence should be measured by
the decisions
that he makes, not by stories he
tells of his previous environment. Just
the fact
that he is making
the decision
to surround himself with a mentor like warren buffet should
tell you a lo
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel you readily can. it's like
trying
to keep a 16yo girlfriend
today.
think of
that, you have
the model.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
thank god dijkstra died and i don't have
to read 2014 abominations from him like i have
to read 2014 "manifest destiny" abominations from buffett.
gabriel_laddel: It seems
to me
that again,
the basic mechanism is
the same. But
then again, I wasn't
there, and surely cannot comprehend
the suit fetish in its full absurdity.
gabriel_laddel: I had
that quote in
the scratch buffer right along with some others prior
to posting in
the chat. Did read.
mircea_popescu: " (If you even wondered why I did not join Disneyland or IBM, you now know why. )" << gabriel_laddel see ? right
there.
mircea_popescu: an interesting point,
tho im not entirely sure what value it carries. warp and weft, as he says.
mircea_popescu: The final reason for my refusal is
that
the habit appeals
to
the quantitative mind and I come from a culture in which
the primarily quantitative mind does not evoke admiration. [A major reason
that we considered Roman Catholics
to belong
to a lower class was precisely
their quantitative bent:
they always counted, number of faithful, number of days in purgatory, you name it.....]
mircea_popescu: "so
they why aren't you ? why is it still
the same
three kiddie pools you're
threading all over ?
they're muddy and green ffs!" "sshh!"
mircea_popescu: "we could be creative,
there's certainly nothing keeping us from it" sorta
thing
mircea_popescu: whereas
the hoodies of 2010 are a
testament of anomie.
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
tho
the "ibm look" of
the 1980s was more of a
testament of obedience, much in
the manner an [insecure] master may mandate slavegirls wear collars.
gabriel_laddel: 's
the same problem. Lack of contact with reality. Without a war or some such you'll have a class of people who revert
to judging others by
their suits/hoodies/lack of personality
mircea_popescu: today
the issue is more "who is going
to deliver
the 500`000`000 beatings needed by
these idiot kids"
mircea_popescu: a lot has changed actually. in 1980s
the battle was on
to get ibm
to stop fixating on "ibm men wear suits"
to
the detriment of all else.
gabriel_laddel: eh, not much has changed in
the intervening years. s/moocs/knowledge-based decision aids
mircea_popescu: well, in
THAT context his quote means substantially something else
than what i
took it
to mean, made 30 years later.
mircea_popescu: no doubt in my mind
they'll actually do it. nothing else
they could do.